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Quoting: JarmerNot really into platformers but man the art style aesthetic they have going here is amazing.

Welp, I came here to say this!

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I need to want this, and I want to need this... Want! Need!

Want and Need sitting in a corpse tree, h-e-a-d-b-a-n-g-i-n-g

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I humbly object to using xorg/X11 anything and "fresh" in the same sentence.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI'll switch when Mint does; I'm vaguely hoping that will be soon, but I haven't had any problems with X11.

The only thing I really miss on Mint is actually Plasma 6.

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I'll switch when Mint does; I'm vaguely hoping that will be soon, but I haven't had any problems with X11.

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I haven't noticed any problems personally but I'm using an AMD GPU. I see zero reasons to switch to Wayland, so won't be for the foreseeable future.

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It's the feel of being part of something, and potentially giving an extra bonus to games you especially enjoyed.

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I stopped voting in these a while back. I just don't see why it matters. Why does anyone care what the game of the year is? Whats the incentive? I'd rather spend my time playing the games than care about who gets what award.

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Quoting: LoftyThis is potentially actually amazing in so many ways if things hook up correctly. And i think Valve has possibly checkmated the entire industry here including mobile if im reading the room right, and i mean both Apple and Google.

So correct my if im wrong but the Frame uses Arch Linux ARM64-based operating system running on essentially a mobile chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (ARM64 architecture), the same high-end chip found in flagship Android smartphones..

So in theory, we just about wrangled ourselves away from Andriod / IOS and have a clear path way to a Linux Smart Phone. ( that can run PC games ). All it takes is for someone to get the Qualcomm firmware / cellular modem module loaded under Arch and fit a dongle or integrate it into a chassis with battery.

In fact i can just see a cool Grey smart phone with the embedded Valve logo on the back in black. fully running Arch with steam installed (of course).


*edit i wonder if this is why Google just did a full 180 on not allowing users to side load APK's or 3rd party stores. It might not have been for the 'community' after all, they saw what valve were doing.

No.
Android's dominant position doesn't come from any of this.
Many Linux phones can do this, those sanctioned Huawei phones can do this.

Their dominant position comes from Google play services(android equivalent to the windows api), Google play and modem-support and is enforced by device attestation and Widevine drm.

On cellular modem support. It's easy to underestimate the walls of that garden.
Let me put it this way. The IPhone was a gigantic upgrade in openness from the walls around the garden of providers.
This is the kind of place where spies sit at the negotiation table, everything is patented, encryption starts to become illegal, publishing code can be treason and merely running tests requires several different licenses and you have to get them par jurisdiction.

For google play services there is microg, but Huawei failed to effectively utilize that.

On your edit: Google always hated standard installing, they kept throwing around graphs about how clearly all viruses came from it, they added all kind of steps to avoid you doing it and they added it to their attestation program. They just couldn't go too far, because of regulators, the gpl and fear for consumer reaction. Also carriers have been testing apple like restraints and people haven't reacted too badly. It's just the next step nothing 180.

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oh wow! I had completely forgot about these legends! Thanks for the mention :)

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Not really into platformers but man the art style aesthetic they have going here is amazing.

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Quoting: ScottCarammell

Quoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?

Alien: Isolation crashes on startup

I played Alien: Isolation start to finish on Wayland last year. Could be something else youre facing, or a recent regression.

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Quoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?

Very select games have problems (Alien: Isolation crashes on startup; X4: Foundations doesn't display its cursor when using controller due to Wayland's broken virtual cursor functionality), but by and large the vast, VAST majority of games work, and games using Proton are always functionally identical on Wayland

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Quoting: hardpenguinTechnically we ALL use xorg to run games without "native" Wayland compatibility, right?

How so? Can you explain this further?

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Ugh I wish my copies I had purchased from GOG had transferred over back when they were doing that library share thing with Steam. They're $1.49 and $1.99 right now on Steam though so I went ahead and re-purchased them there.

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What will you be voting for?

The Drifter

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1170570/The_Drifter/

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I'm still using Xorg because:

- XFCE is not yet compatible with Wayland, will be compatible in next version
- I need a stable gaming experience

Is wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?

I'm using a AMD GPU.

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For those of you still rocking xorg rather than Wayland

Technically we ALL use xorg to run games without "native" Wayland compatibility, right?

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That's quite unexpected! Pretty good games too ☺️.

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What will you be voting for?

I actually had to make a couple shots in the dark because I have not played that many games from 2025 😅

2024 and 2023 though? Very good 😙👌

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So no real changes, just reverts of the previous "fixes" that caused bugs (because nobody really tested them before merging). *sigh*

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Quoting: GoEsrIsn't the whole point of WinBoat that you don't have to interact with the Windows DE to use the apps? That's a pretty big difference from just using a VM.

Yes, that too... (and it *mostly* works fine)

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No new features - but essential security and bug fixes where really needed.

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I thought, xorg is dead, buried and doesn't get any more development and fixes?

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Isn't the whole point of WinBoat that you don't have to interact with the Windows DE to use the apps? That's a pretty big difference from just using a VM.

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Missing last 10 quests, so it will be artifact hunting now :-D

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Perhaps I misinterpreted, but I got the impression that the Steam Frame could run "some" low-end Win32 games (via Proton and FEX), and Android games, but was intended to stream anything higher-end from something more powerful (like the Gabecube).

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Anyone know how to change the mouse sensitivity?

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Quoting: taosecurity"Windows runs as a VM inside a Docker/Podman container, we communicate with it using the WinBoat Guest Server to retrieve data we need from Windows. For compositing applications as native OS-level windows, we use FreeRDP together with Windows's RemoteApp protocol."

I don't see how this is better than just running a Windows VM?

It IS a VM and sure you can do everything this does yourself.. its the simplicity this gives people with the setup process that IMO makes this appealing

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Great to hear they drive SteamVR on Linux forward! 🥳

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