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Eskild Hustvedt writes on the LGP blog:
It's nice to see at least someone letting us know they aren't actually dead, makes me wander what game they are porting at the moment and if they are actually doing it themselves rather than just publishing it as they did with Shadowgrounds/Survivor.
I have emailed Eskild for a bit of info, so will update with any response.
Edit > Eskild has confirmed it is an in-house LGP port.
Good news though, looking forward to seeing what comes of this.
http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/ Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
QuoteSo, we’ve been a bit too quiet lately. That’s partly my fault, and partly because we’ve been busy working on our next port. I’m pleased to inform you that we now have a working build of it in internal alpha testing, and we should open applications to the beta test “soon” (for sufficiently vague values of “soon”). We’re also working on a few other things that we should be announcing in the near future.
Meanwhile, feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback you have (other than “what’s the port?” that is, because I won’t be able to tell you that yet, no matter how hard you try :).
If you have any input, suggestions or questions for me, feel free to ask them here in the comments, on IRC (Zero_Dogg in #lgp on irc.freenode.net), via identi.ca/twitter or via e-mail (to eskild at the domain linuxgamepublishing dot com).
It's nice to see at least someone letting us know they aren't actually dead, makes me wander what game they are porting at the moment and if they are actually doing it themselves rather than just publishing it as they did with Shadowgrounds/Survivor.
I have emailed Eskild for a bit of info, so will update with any response.
Edit > Eskild has confirmed it is an in-house LGP port.
Good news though, looking forward to seeing what comes of this.
http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/ Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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@Hamish : Although many gamers love Majesty, I didn't like the game at all, so I'm not too thrilled about the sequel.
Also imo games to be ported need to not work with Wine as if they already runnable then wasting 4-5 years just to have a native Linux client for a game that runs fine with Wine is a waste.
I would prefer porting games that do not run on Linux, like Gothic 3, 4 , Risen etc...
And about his Facebook, as he updates his status for the "common folks" who do not even know what is Linux, he can't be technical - so he says "worked all night, time to get some sleep..." sort of things.
But sure he can update his LGP blog more.
Also imo games to be ported need to not work with Wine as if they already runnable then wasting 4-5 years just to have a native Linux client for a game that runs fine with Wine is a waste.
I would prefer porting games that do not run on Linux, like Gothic 3, 4 , Risen etc...
And about his Facebook, as he updates his status for the "common folks" who do not even know what is Linux, he can't be technical - so he says "worked all night, time to get some sleep..." sort of things.
But sure he can update his LGP blog more.
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Hey, well, I appreciated Majesty. It is not my most favourite game in the world but it can be fun, and it is Michael Simms favourite game FYI. Although I do not know how good the second game was, I would not mind trying it out, but would only be willing to do that if it has a native port. I do not "care" if it runs in Wine; for me the game does not exist unless it goes native.
I also disagree with your comment that porting games that work in Wine is necessarily a waste. Saying that something does not need to be ported because it works in Wine is giving the project too much legitimacy. Wine should be respected as a amazing technical feat, but it should not be treated as being equivalent to native applications. This is based on the fact we have to make the Linux ecosystem respected under its own merits, and the fact that I have only rarely had a game which ran flawlessly in Wine, and then when you are lucky enough to have one it gets screwed up in the next Wine release. Wine can never be trusted as providing official support for applications.
As for porting games that "do not run on Linux", if it has to be ran through Wine it does not run on Linux. It runs on virtual Windows, that is all Wine is. So Majesty 2 is just as much fair game as Gothic 3, 4 , Risen, and all of these other games I have never heard of. That is another thing, once I switched to Linux full time, I basically came to the conclusion that a game (well, at least any modern still commercially viable game) only really exists if it has a native port. If it does not, then it is not real. It is just some Windows fantasy.
Call it a bit of a twisted reasoning if you like, but it is that kind of stubroness that has gotten us this far, where you can game only on Linux and still play more games than you ever would want to. But until we are treated with respect, we must continue not to give them any. They must earn our respect, and our acceptance, by giving us the consideration of a port. And we in return, must be grateful. So I will be grateful to LGP for whatever they give us in the next few months (years?).
I also disagree with your comment that porting games that work in Wine is necessarily a waste. Saying that something does not need to be ported because it works in Wine is giving the project too much legitimacy. Wine should be respected as a amazing technical feat, but it should not be treated as being equivalent to native applications. This is based on the fact we have to make the Linux ecosystem respected under its own merits, and the fact that I have only rarely had a game which ran flawlessly in Wine, and then when you are lucky enough to have one it gets screwed up in the next Wine release. Wine can never be trusted as providing official support for applications.
As for porting games that "do not run on Linux", if it has to be ran through Wine it does not run on Linux. It runs on virtual Windows, that is all Wine is. So Majesty 2 is just as much fair game as Gothic 3, 4 , Risen, and all of these other games I have never heard of. That is another thing, once I switched to Linux full time, I basically came to the conclusion that a game (well, at least any modern still commercially viable game) only really exists if it has a native port. If it does not, then it is not real. It is just some Windows fantasy.
Call it a bit of a twisted reasoning if you like, but it is that kind of stubroness that has gotten us this far, where you can game only on Linux and still play more games than you ever would want to. But until we are treated with respect, we must continue not to give them any. They must earn our respect, and our acceptance, by giving us the consideration of a port. And we in return, must be grateful. So I will be grateful to LGP for whatever they give us in the next few months (years?).
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@Hamish
Sure, I understand your view as I used to think the same.
I would never have bought a non Linux native game - but now my line is drawn elsewhere.
For me if it's cheap and old enough (gog.com) and runs on Wine - then I'll consider paying for it.
Because once the games get this old - the developers usually do not care so much about them.
Some people will only play free source games.
It's all a matter where you draw the line.
But my line still says "No Wine games on LGN" ;)
Sure, I understand your view as I used to think the same.
I would never have bought a non Linux native game - but now my line is drawn elsewhere.
For me if it's cheap and old enough (gog.com) and runs on Wine - then I'll consider paying for it.
Because once the games get this old - the developers usually do not care so much about them.
Some people will only play free source games.
It's all a matter where you draw the line.
But my line still says "No Wine games on LGN" ;)
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I am not actually against your view entirely, as GOG is a wonderful service in many ways, and if the games are old enough to be on GOG they are not really commercially viable. I personally would still hesitate to buy for them at the moment though, but I do consider what you are doing to just be an acceptable compromise.
What I was many referring to is people who will spend their time buying Windows games developed in the last five to eight years and play them through Wine, and they turn around and say "it is all right, it works on Linux!". Majesty 2 would count as that, so I put that clearly in the "no" checkbox. But if you really want to play the original Baldurs Gate or Tomb Raider through Dosbox or Wine or whatever, I am not really that upset.
And sorry if my post was little spirited, I am just a little grumpy and irritated because it is May 8th and my pipes are still frozen meaning I do not have running water. :mad:
What I was many referring to is people who will spend their time buying Windows games developed in the last five to eight years and play them through Wine, and they turn around and say "it is all right, it works on Linux!". Majesty 2 would count as that, so I put that clearly in the "no" checkbox. But if you really want to play the original Baldurs Gate or Tomb Raider through Dosbox or Wine or whatever, I am not really that upset.
And sorry if my post was little spirited, I am just a little grumpy and irritated because it is May 8th and my pipes are still frozen meaning I do not have running water. :mad:
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At first I thought you were angry that people were playing games under WINE at all, but now I see you just don't want it considered on par with playing the game natively. I agree with that. WINE is impressive, but it's not the same as a native build.
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