Humble Bundle number 13!

Considering everything, if I do grab this I am considering not giving anything in the form of a Humble Tip. Including a game with a WINE wrapper is just something I never expected from them. And I definitely would not give a cent to the developers of Limbo...

That said, I still want to pick it up so that I will finally get myself a copy of Amnesia and also grab Physconauts, which I have heard great things about. I will see how things go though.

People seem rather pissed, even though 4 out of the 5 games are absolutely worth buying.

Well I have to say....Limbo actually works very nicely even on integrated intel graphics for me i don't even need to use the nvidia chip :D

What's the problem with that? People put a lot of effort in Wine development just so that this kind of thing can happen and more games can be played on Linux.

Wine development? This is still Windows development, because tehy sell Windows version of Limbo instead native Linux version.

Wine = WINdows Emulator

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1931801&page=2

I particulary wish more developers would at least officialy support Wine instead of saying that porting for Linux is hard.

Wine, Cider, Wineskin etc. is trap for gamers and game producers:

"Mac OS X Non-Cider Update
The original version of X³: Reunion for Mac OS X used the Cider "wrapper" technology developed by [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgaming']Transgaming[/URL].[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C2%B3:_Reunion#cite_note-19'][COLOR=#0b0080][20][/URL][/COLOR] On June 29, 2010, [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virtual_Programming&action=edit&redlink=1']Virtual Programming[/URL]issued a new version of the game that eschewed Cider.[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C2%B3:_Reunion#cite_note-20'][COLOR=#0b0080][21][/URL][/COLOR] Virtual Programming CEO Mark Hinton was quoted as saying: "We weren't happy with X³: Reunion's performance when using Cider, and it turned out many of our customers weren't either. As a gesture of goodwill, we reengineered the game as a native port that's a free update for existing customers. Starting today, new X³: Reunion customers will receive the updated version of the game.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C2%B3:_Reunion

I have little issue with Wine, I use it a lot. But if limbo does this now then it simply mean in the future we will see more humble games doing that which eventually will mean less native humble games..... which is a shame as humble bundle in a way forced developers to work with linux.

The thing is though, if games that use it sell well, then hopefully you would think people in future would program with Linux in mind for a native version, after all this is a game that has been out for a while.

Tacking on wine support after is better than 0 support in my eyes, i don't have to mess with any configs still, it all installs for me just like it would natively.

I wonder... what about the mac version? Are they using the same wrapper?

No.

The thing is Liam, aren't we beyond that stage these days? Especially from something like the Humble Indie Bundle?

I don't know how much good this will do, but I started a petition to protest the inclusion of a non-native game in a Humble Indie Bundle:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hib-native/

Please add your signatures. It is worded in a very constructive way and it seemed like the most civil way to get our point across.

We can not sell out our values at this stage. Not when we have momentum.

I thought WINE meant Wine Is Not an Emulator

The petition is a good idea. But just to be sure they receive my complaint, I will also write to: [email protected]

Indeed, you are right Brandon that WINE is not an emulator.

It does not really change anything though. As a Linux developer yourself, you deserve credit for the work you put into your native ports. By including a non-native game in something like the Bundle, it really is a kick in your teeth as well.

It is saying that you can get away with not putting in the effort.

any clue on this:

/Desktop/Downloaded> md5sum psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip
feb1d3216bbe32a317ea80cb4f88dcae psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip

checksum is correct

/Desktop/Downloaded> unzip psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip
Archive: psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip
fatal error: read failure while seeking for End-of-centdir-64 signature.
This zipfile is corrupt.
unzip: cannot find zipfile directory in one of psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip or
psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip.zip, and cannot find psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip.ZIP, period.

I downloaded the 4gb twice now and the checksum is correct so ????

Maybe try using a different program, and if that does not work it is probably time to contact support.

I thought WINE meant Wine Is Not an Emulator

Wine = WINdows Emulator

"Now, yes, but until 1998, no: [URL='http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/']http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/[/URL] "

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1931801&page=2

The thing is Liam, aren't we beyond that stage these days? Especially from something like the Humble Indie Bundle?

I don't know how much good this will do, but I started a petition to protest the inclusion of a non-native game in a Humble Indie Bundle:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hib-native/

Please add your signatures. It is worded in a very constructive way and it seemed like the most civil way to get our point across.

We can not sell out our values at this stage. Not when we have momentum.

Like I said I feel it is better than nothing, but not the ideal solution.

As far as I know no petition for Linux gaming has ever done anything?

Like I said I feel it is better than nothing, but not the ideal solution.

As far as I know no petition for Linux gaming has ever done anything?

I think you forgot about Tibia Client Petition

http://www.linuxgames.com/?s=tibia

Maybe try using a different program, and if that does not work it is probably time to contact support.

duh..... 7z x psychonauts-linux-05312012.zip worked without issue... thanks, but should have thought about that myself :)

Wine = WINdows Emulator

"Now, yes, but until 1998, no: [URL='http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/']http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/[/URL]"

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1931801&page=2

Okay? Fortunately it's not 1998. And wine is not an emulator any more than mono or java is an emulator.

As far as I know no petition for Linux gaming has ever done anything?

I honestly do not know what kind of effect this will have, but it is not like most Linux gaming petitions. It is directed at Humble Bundle, who do have a history of listening, even to a single individual.

I just figured it was better to get organized rather than have islands of unrest in a large humble sea.