Another Kickstarter project has popped up this time by the guys of Obsidian! They call it Project Eternity.
Obsidian Entertainment and our legendary game designers Chris Avellone, Tim Cain, and Josh Sawyer are excited to bring you a new role-playing game for the PC. Project Eternity (working title) pays homage to the great Infinity Engine games of years past: Baldur’s Gate, Icewind Dale, and Planescape: Torment.
Project Eternity aims to recapture the magic, imagination, depth, and nostalgia of classic RPGs that we enjoyed making - and playing. At Obsidian, we have the people responsible for many of those classic games and we want to bring those games back… and that’s why we’re here - we need your help to make it a reality!
They want 2.2 million to do the Linux version, they are already over funded so either way the game will happen but you need to dig deeg again if you want it on Linux, considering it has 30 days to go it's quite likely this one will come.
Sad to see another one have Linux as a stretch goal and not an initial goal. The fact that they will do it if they get the money they want is good though, better than nothing i say but still pretty insane...
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Seems to be more of a we want more money gig. They're doing the Mac version at 1.6 already, what do they need the other .6 for?
Still, better than nothing, they'll probably reach it anyway.
Still, better than nothing, they'll probably reach it anyway.
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Yeah it's a lot of money for not much trouble especially since if it's going to Mac earlier the code will be portable and not tied to Windows.
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IMHO, its because linux games do not have shelf life. There aren't enough linux gamers to buy this product for say five years down the line. So, the company is trying to get what they feel they deserve from the linux gaming masses within the funding period.
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Alex V.Sharp Sep 16, 2012
Better than nothing? Really guys? This is ridiculous and you know it.
We've already had four (and more) huge games funded via Kickstarter and they all included Linux support either as soon as people asked for it or put it as a stretch goal close to Mac support. And they usually asked for about 5%-10% more funding to include that.
What Obsidian did is dick move: They got an enormous amount of money, they said they'll consider cross-platform. They decide to add Mac for an extra 0.5 million (again, no idea what the Hell they need that much for), and then they had the nerve to go and put Linux support for double the funding they asked for! What, do they need to buy a licence or something...? Not only that, but it turns out they tied supporting the platform with adding a new faction, another class and a new in-game companion. So the question is 'What does the money I'm giving for Linux support have to do with this extra content?'
So yeah, thanks but no thanks. Sometimes you just have to put the foot down and simply say 'No, I will not allow to be treated this way. Change it, than we'll see'
We've already had four (and more) huge games funded via Kickstarter and they all included Linux support either as soon as people asked for it or put it as a stretch goal close to Mac support. And they usually asked for about 5%-10% more funding to include that.
What Obsidian did is dick move: They got an enormous amount of money, they said they'll consider cross-platform. They decide to add Mac for an extra 0.5 million (again, no idea what the Hell they need that much for), and then they had the nerve to go and put Linux support for double the funding they asked for! What, do they need to buy a licence or something...? Not only that, but it turns out they tied supporting the platform with adding a new faction, another class and a new in-game companion. So the question is 'What does the money I'm giving for Linux support have to do with this extra content?'
So yeah, thanks but no thanks. Sometimes you just have to put the foot down and simply say 'No, I will not allow to be treated this way. Change it, than we'll see'
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Remember at no point do you have to pledge or buy anything. I don't tend to get too annoyed over things like this I just try to take it as it comes, we already have plenty of good games out and on their way.
You could wait until say it comes out officially when released and buy it then since that would be perfectly normal.
My personal opinion is it is rather excessive but it's the only option we have for the game so we need to roll with it for now, or just go support other better projects that have Linux on release or Linux as a much smaller stretch goal.
You could wait until say it comes out officially when released and buy it then since that would be perfectly normal.
My personal opinion is it is rather excessive but it's the only option we have for the game so we need to roll with it for now, or just go support other better projects that have Linux on release or Linux as a much smaller stretch goal.
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+1 Alex V. Sharp. when I saw this I was like OMG baldurs gate like stuff....... then I saw the the linux milestone and was like... another one trying to get more money out of us then needed.
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I also hate this trend for putting Linux conversions as a stretch goal on Kickstarter, they are acting as though we have to beg them for Linux games. I'm happy with whats currently out there for Linux, I'm sure when Steam comes to the table there will be more than enough competition for Linux gamers cash.
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give it another 5-6 days and they will reach the linux goal though, its going fast.
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Yeah by the end of the month it should have easily hit the Linux target then everyone can jump on if they want it :)
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Seems to be more of a we want more money gig. They're doing the Mac version at 1.6 already, what do they need the other .6 for?You guys need to understand that they are not asking for 600k to do the Linux port, they simply have put it farther in their priorities list (their reasons is theirs). If you watch closely, you should see that their previous goals don't state "Taking vacations to be ready for the Linux port".
I also hate this trend for putting Linux conversions as a stretch goal on Kickstarter, they are acting as though we have to beg them for Linux games.I'm with you here, but they can't really do otherwise if they don't see supporting Linux as a priority for their game. (Which I can understand)
Ideally, they would have separate campaigns to fund the ports, but all in all it's better to have everything happen in the same kickstarter.
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Cheeseness Sep 21, 2012
Oh, I didn't spot that we had a news article on this one.
I made a few lengthy posts in the Linux thread on the Steam forums about why this trend of unrealistic stretch goals and stretch goals in general for cross platform support are likely to breed unhealthy perceptions and behaviours. If anybody's interested they can [URL='http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32832464#post32832464']read them[/URL].
One thing I would like to highlight (as an example of unhealthy behaviour) is that there's [URL='http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60178-why-are-resources-being-spent-on-a-linux-version/']a thread[/URL] on the Project Eternity forums made by people who feel that Linux support is a waste of the the project's funds - an attitude that would be much less likely to have existed if Linux support were added to the project directly rather than associated with a stretch goal.
At the end of the day, I think there's more benefit to either adding Linux support to the primary target, or just adding Linux support to the project after the minimum value that the developers feel they need to be able to support Linux is met (and not confirm it beforehand). This way, people on all platforms are aiming for the same things with regards to stretch goals, which creates better community synergy, and promotes equality.
I made a few lengthy posts in the Linux thread on the Steam forums about why this trend of unrealistic stretch goals and stretch goals in general for cross platform support are likely to breed unhealthy perceptions and behaviours. If anybody's interested they can [URL='http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32832464#post32832464']read them[/URL].
One thing I would like to highlight (as an example of unhealthy behaviour) is that there's [URL='http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60178-why-are-resources-being-spent-on-a-linux-version/']a thread[/URL] on the Project Eternity forums made by people who feel that Linux support is a waste of the the project's funds - an attitude that would be much less likely to have existed if Linux support were added to the project directly rather than associated with a stretch goal.
At the end of the day, I think there's more benefit to either adding Linux support to the primary target, or just adding Linux support to the project after the minimum value that the developers feel they need to be able to support Linux is met (and not confirm it beforehand). This way, people on all platforms are aiming for the same things with regards to stretch goals, which creates better community synergy, and promotes equality.
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Quote from their last update:
In fact, our experience with Unity so far has made us confident enough that we have decided to remove Linux support from the stretch goals and just commit to providing a Linux version right here and now!(Unity is the engine they'll use, not Ubuntu's desktop. Can be confusing...)
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Cheeseness Sep 22, 2012
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