So it seems Valve is doing another pre-closed Steam Linux Beta push on their end with the official "group" now open on the Steam website.
There is also a Linux Beta Access group now on Steam which actually states to the side of it "Official Group" by the join button.
Also to note is that the Steam For Linux CDR is now up as well to further give evidence that it really is imminent!
This isn't without it's controversies though as people are flocking to the official groups forum to complain about things such as "It's GNU/Linux not Linux" and "Why do you hate freedom?". We have seen this before across the web but now it's all over their official website group.
So...do you hate your freedom? I sure do, my freedom to have spare time that is, bring on the games! You all by now know my views (some of you strongly disagree), I personally Love Steam and have never ever had a problem with it.
So now it really is almost here, what are your views? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
There is also a Linux Beta Access group now on Steam which actually states to the side of it "Official Group" by the join button.
Also to note is that the Steam For Linux CDR is now up as well to further give evidence that it really is imminent!
This isn't without it's controversies though as people are flocking to the official groups forum to complain about things such as "It's GNU/Linux not Linux" and "Why do you hate freedom?". We have seen this before across the web but now it's all over their official website group.
So...do you hate your freedom? I sure do, my freedom to have spare time that is, bring on the games! You all by now know my views (some of you strongly disagree), I personally Love Steam and have never ever had a problem with it.
So now it really is almost here, what are your views? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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What does steam mean to me. It means an opportunity for linux and it's distros to survive. The problem with Free is that it is free. If you love you distro and love what linux has done for your life compared to your microsoft experience, let for profit companies offer you more freedom: freedom to pay if you choose. You still have plenty of other open source free software to choose from. And by all means, if you choose to use only the free software, donate money so programmers can continue with their efforts. It is not the end of the world. Unfortunately money makes the world go round and will for the foreseeable future.
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And let me add that I will mostly be utilizing FOSS software even with steams offerings. In the end I pay for whatever i use whether it be through donations or purchase.
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Cheeseness Oct 26, 2012
Quoting: "Phillyreal, post: 5916"It means an opportunity for linux and it's distros to survive.
Are distros in danger of not surviving, though?
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Quoting: "Avarisclari, post: 5910"I honestly don't have a super huge problem with it. The only one I do have is that by doing this, forums are going to explode with non linux users, don't take this the wrong way, trying to figure out how to use various features because they've grown with click and it works, no keyboard required. (Pretty much how it is now, but after learning it when i first came over in 08 i love cli)
Funny - not as in "ha ha", but rather as in "strange you should say that". While I certainly appreciate the command line for its utility, I don't use it most of the time unless I'm trying to fix something. Indeed, for me Linux is "click-and-it-works" because I've made my machine run that way.
Surely I'm not the only one.:)
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Qantourisc Oct 26, 2012
Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 5906, member: 93"I think its cool steam comes to linux, I do worry a bit what will happen with the smaller players like Desura and Gamolith. In a huge windows environment there is room for other companies to exists but with the success of HiB where a Steam key is a must people will get pushed towards steam and I am afraid that soon Desura and Gamolith will be pushed aside.
For me it's simple: direct sales gets preference, then the least drm, and then finally drm.
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Qantourisc Oct 26, 2012
Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 5914, member: 122"I'm with KIAaze. I'd really like to see greater discussion and awareness of the implications of running non-free software on a Free OS.
IMO Free software is over-rated. It's WAAAY more harmfull to build closed systems: closed file standards, protocols (Apple-talk, Skype, Cloud-sync services). While they could be using: Jabber, vcarddav, imap, scp, sftp, ...
This is holding back FOSS a LOT more. This also makes so you can't drop product A and replace it with a better product B because you'd tied to the closed standard.
It will also block and increase the cost of making product B, because it's less economical viable. And for FOSS people it's a LOT more work.
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Cheeseness Oct 26, 2012
Quoting: "Qantourisc, post: 5921, member: 181"IMO Free software is over-rated. It's WAAAY more harmfull to build closed systems: closed file standards, protocols (Apple-talk, Skype, Cloud-sync services). While they could be using: Jabber, vcarddav, imap, scp, sftp, ...
This is holding back FOSS a LOT more. This also makes so you can't drop product A and replace it with a better product B because you'd tied to the closed standard.
It will also block and increase the cost of making product B, because it's less economical viable. And for FOSS people it's a LOT more work.
I'm not quite sure of what it is you're saying. Is B Free Software in this case? If so, why would costs of development be increased?
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The "GNU/Linux" argument has been adopted by trolls as easy material for annoying Linux users. I pretty much laughed at the title since I've seen it so many times before, not only for the fact that it was most likely a troll but also for the fact that it has always been rather unproductive even when people took it seriously.
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Quoting: "SCIBOTIC, post: 5925"The "GNU/Linux" argument has been adopted by trolls as easy material for annoying Linux users. I pretty much laughed at the title since I've seen it so many times before, not only for the fact that it was most likely a troll but also for the fact that it has always been rather unproductive even when people took it seriously.
It does have a point though - the GNU project does still need to be taken seriously. I admit, I say Linux more than I say GNU/Linux, but I do understand why they make a fuss about it. Linus does not need the fame or the credit (in fact he has been trying to live it down for the past fifteen years). The GNU project does, as it always needs more hands and more developers and more money. So I can understand why they may get upset about their (large) contributions getting slighted.
Quoting: "Larian1975, post: 5919"Funny - not as in "ha ha", but rather as in "strange you should say that". While I certainly appreciate the command line for its utility, I don't use it most of the time unless I'm trying to fix something. Indeed, for me Linux is "click-and-it-works" because I've made my machine run that way. Surely I'm not the only one.:)
Yeah, but I do you pity them. Using the CLI is quite literally a life changing positive experience. ;)
Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 5923, member: 122"I'm not quite sure of what it is you're saying. Is B Free Software in this case? If so, why would costs of development be increased?
I think he is just advancing the Micheal Simms argument:
http://blog.linuxgamepublishing.com/2009/06/29/a-closed-source-companys-ceos-view-on-open-source/
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Also, the another GNU/Linux thread is there, by the same troll. How can I be sure it's a troll - complains about DRM, owns 72 games, many of which use DRM.
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