Steam's Beta games confirmed and Linux better than Windows for gaming?

Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 5974, member: 1"Looks like Windows 8 will be quite the dive-bomb I have been hoping for but who knows will Microsoft do a U-Turn and open up again a bit more...i doubt it, they want more revenue and their own store is the way to really do it these days.

The thing about Windows 8 is that I have heard almost nothing about it during it's launch - virtually no news coverage or advertising. Compare that to the Windows 7 launch, or even more especially, the Windows Vista launch. Does not bode well for them.

It's all over UK TV right now for Windows Slate tablet and Windows 8.

Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 5974, member: 1"Looks like Windows 8 will be quite the dive-bomb I have been hoping for but who knows will Microsoft do a U-Turn and open up again a bit more...i doubt it, they want more revenue and their own store is the way to really do it these days.

Valve did not really care for Linux until Microsoft mentioned the App Store and the simple fact that only App Store programs are allowed on the (metro) UI and that App Store programs are not allowed to install software on windows 8. This simply means that in the long run (windows 9, 10 etc) it will be harder and harder for none App Store software to profile itself and Valve will eventually lose customers. They now looking for a new platform and that is Linux and that is great for us but if Microsoft changes its App Store rules (they already did with PEGI rating) I wonder what will happen then.

On another note, I mentioned this before, but what will happen to the Linux community when windows people will start using Linux because Steam brings out games for it, they will come into a totally different desktop experience and things not always run out of the box like they are used to, will the forums and the community be able to handle the comments/rants/expectations of all those new users ?

Anyone who thinks otherwise to the fact that they are moving because of Windows App Store is blind, Valve said it themselves it's because Windows is getting more closed.

In recent years (mainly thanks to Ubuntu no less) it's easier for newbies to get help with Linux due to the Ubuntu Forums being heavily moderated for bitchyness. We are here as well if anyone ever needed help ;)

I'm not too worried about that. I don't believe we'll see windows users with no prior experience migrating in droves. And even if that was to happen, most communities would do just fine. The only one that would probably witness a massive influx would be Ubuntu, and they have nice wikies and quite great and welcoming communities, if not always giving the best kind of support.

Those with hardware problems will turn back, some of the others will stay.

Business as usual, maybe on a bigger scale. Wait and see.

It will be hard to tell really until later on next year when it's officially release into the wild anyway.

Maybe it is because I know my way around already, but the only Wiki I find to be up to snuff is the Arch wiki. I was never all that impressed with Ubuntu's documentation to be honest, and while it's forums are helpful, they are not alone in this and I find it a little off putting for people to state that they are.

Plus I do not think Ubuntu has made that huge a contribution to making things easier, but that may be a topic for another thread.

Windows user had much less online support compared to Linux in the past, and they still preferred Redmond. Why? Because everyone was using it. Heck, they would all flock back to Win 3.11 if all companies and govt. facilities would require that for the job and if all entertainment was endorsing it.
I have a feeling that Valve will just inevitably disappear as a huge gaming name. Others will take over and gladly spew out terabytes of fancy games that are MS App Store only.
However, if played right, Valve can at least get Linux from 1% to 3% market share, especially if Steam stays desktop agnostic. Not sure how gamers will react to a platform that is missing EA, Blizzard, Ubisoft, et al., though. I am also not sure how they will react to the still very selected hardware Ubuntu can run on, and all the poorer performing drivers when compared to Windows.
Alternatively, we could see a lot of people making Win7 the new WinXP that will live on for another 15 years, until MS gets their feces together and brings out separate mobile and desktop UIs.

Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 5978, member: 93"On another note, I mentioned this before, but what will happen to the Linux community when windows people will start using Linux because Steam brings out games for it, they will come into a totally different desktop experience and things not always run out of the box like they are used to, will the forums and the community be able to handle the comments/rants/expectations of all those new users ?

This makes me think Windows must be perfect and totally problem-free. Actually, there are lots of webs dedicated to helping with Windows and gaming problems, and they're pretty populated. Besides, I know no Windows users getting used to things working out of the box, but they always know some friend... The biggest change for GNU/Linux communities might be that now our gurus will get a lot of friends. :)

I like to remember that doing things right, gaming can be easier than it is on Windows. So, ask developers to make it right and easy and we'll be succeeding. They learnt how to deal with a lot of garbage on Windows, now it should be easier to deal with good organisation on GNU/Linux. I understand they want to ensure compatility with well-known distros but I hope they soon stop targeting distros in their installers.

Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 5978, member: 93"Valve did not really care for Linux until Microsoft mentioned the App Store and the simple fact that only App Store programs are allowed on the (metro) UI and that App Store programs are not allowed to install software on windows 8. This simply means that in the long run (windows 9, 10 etc) it will be harder and harder for none App Store software to profile itself and Valve will eventually lose customers. They now looking for a new platform and that is Linux and that is great for us but if Microsoft changes its App Store rules (they already did with PEGI rating) I wonder what will happen then.

well, they can change their minds, something gpl2 licensed software is not prone to, so even more reason to join linux ranks.