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In normal circumstances I would have let Liam deliver these awesome news, but what is normal about a total nuclear catastrophe in the radioactive ruins of Moscow? Especially when that happens on Linux?
Anyways, the horror FPS Metro: Last Light from 4A Games and published by Deepsilver has finally been released on Steam for Linux. There had been hints about the closing release date on SteamDB during the past few weeks, so the release wasn't a complete surprise, but we didn't expect it to happen so suddenly.
I think this is one of the important milestones in the history of Linux gaming. It's not the first big game on Linux and probably not the last, but we are seeing big game studios finally take Linux seriously as a gaming platform. Would you have believed all this few years ago?
Game info:
Metro: Last Light is a first person horror shooter set into post-apocalyptic Moscow, which has been devastated by a nuclear war. The surviving population of Moscow has taken refuge in the metro tunnels below the radioactive streets, where all kinds of mutants roam. But to quote another game with a similar topic: "war never changes" and the people living in the metro tunnels have divided into different factions, which fight with each other for survival. You play as Artyom, a young dweller of the metro, and you must sort out this mess as "the last light in our darkest hour".
Features:
The game is currently (slowly) downloading on Steam, so I haven't yet had a chance to play it, but I am sure to make a GOL Cast of it ASAP! Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Anyways, the horror FPS Metro: Last Light from 4A Games and published by Deepsilver has finally been released on Steam for Linux. There had been hints about the closing release date on SteamDB during the past few weeks, so the release wasn't a complete surprise, but we didn't expect it to happen so suddenly.
I think this is one of the important milestones in the history of Linux gaming. It's not the first big game on Linux and probably not the last, but we are seeing big game studios finally take Linux seriously as a gaming platform. Would you have believed all this few years ago?
Game info:
Metro: Last Light is a first person horror shooter set into post-apocalyptic Moscow, which has been devastated by a nuclear war. The surviving population of Moscow has taken refuge in the metro tunnels below the radioactive streets, where all kinds of mutants roam. But to quote another game with a similar topic: "war never changes" and the people living in the metro tunnels have divided into different factions, which fight with each other for survival. You play as Artyom, a young dweller of the metro, and you must sort out this mess as "the last light in our darkest hour".
Features:
- Experience thrilling combat with an exotic arsenal of hand-made weaponry against deadly foes – both human and mutant – and use stealth to launch attacks under the cover of darkness
- Explore the post-apocalyptic world of the Moscow Metro, one of the most immersive, atmospheric game worlds ever created
- Fight for every bullet and every last breath in a claustrophobic blend of survival horror and FPS gameplay
- Next generation technology boasting stunning lighting and physics sets a new graphical benchmark on both console and PC
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The game is currently (slowly) downloading on Steam, so I haven't yet had a chance to play it, but I am sure to make a GOL Cast of it ASAP! Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Wow, Dima, that quote makes Stallman sound like a reasonable guy. And "reasonable" isn't a word I tend to associate with him. He's very, very black and white on most issues and I find a lot of his views extremely unpalatable. Check his website for examples, of which there are many.
Totally agree though with your/his view though. Wouldn't it be great to see Steam help get to the point where Ubuntu (or Linux generally) is commanding a fair proportion of games-playing market share? At that point, those users have a voice. And if they vote with their wallet then, they'll have a viable impact on sales and can actually drive change. Right now, if you vote with your wallet, you won't be heard. You won't even be noticed.
Totally agree though with your/his view though. Wouldn't it be great to see Steam help get to the point where Ubuntu (or Linux generally) is commanding a fair proportion of games-playing market share? At that point, those users have a voice. And if they vote with their wallet then, they'll have a viable impact on sales and can actually drive change. Right now, if you vote with your wallet, you won't be heard. You won't even be noticed.
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Even if you don't like the guy, or don't have the conviction to truly act by what he says is right, it's hard to argue with him. He's right, patronizing nonfree software IS bad for us... I think it's even worse for us than for Windows/Mac users who aren't even aware of what they're doing. It's possible to argue that us Linux users should know better.
So, even though I believe in free software, I still use nonfree software when the alternative doesn't stack up. But my list is growing shorter every day. I'll give you a great world example that happened to me today.. so I'm working on my masters and we're required to use statistical analysis software to explain our research. The industry standard is SPSS, and there's a 14 day trial available on their website. I figured.. fine.. this is important I'll do it, but the download was 800 mbs... so I started it and thought maybe there's a free alternative? Guess what I find... PSPP by the GNU Project. A 30mb free open source download that pretty much does the same thing.. I got PSPP up and running even before my SPSS download was halfway finished. Maybe for more serious analysis something like SPSS might be preferred, but I'm perfectly happy doing my analyses in PSPP and reporting the results in LibreOffice. Really the only reason I'm still using Windows is because of games.. hopefully that'll change soon.
So, even though I believe in free software, I still use nonfree software when the alternative doesn't stack up. But my list is growing shorter every day. I'll give you a great world example that happened to me today.. so I'm working on my masters and we're required to use statistical analysis software to explain our research. The industry standard is SPSS, and there's a 14 day trial available on their website. I figured.. fine.. this is important I'll do it, but the download was 800 mbs... so I started it and thought maybe there's a free alternative? Guess what I find... PSPP by the GNU Project. A 30mb free open source download that pretty much does the same thing.. I got PSPP up and running even before my SPSS download was halfway finished. Maybe for more serious analysis something like SPSS might be preferred, but I'm perfectly happy doing my analyses in PSPP and reporting the results in LibreOffice. Really the only reason I'm still using Windows is because of games.. hopefully that'll change soon.
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In an ideal world DRM free would be great. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. It's laudable to strive for it though, so keep striving if that's what turns you on.
As for Steam being bad, then that's nonsense. If there was no Steam I wouldn't be playing 'Metro: Last Light' (remember that, what this thread's supposed to be about) on Linux. I am and I love it. So... playing the game or the game not existing for Linux... hmmm, tough one. If there was no Steam on Linux then there'd be no game, end of. No DRM version and no DRM free version, nothing. If you don't like DRM, great (does any customer actually LIKE DRM? Think about it) but I don't want to hear your opinion of it on a thread for a game you have no intention of playing! Start your own thread about it.
And if Steam were to do an Android with SteamOS, then so what? You'll still have your flavour of Linux exactly as it was before SteamOS but with better graphic drivers and more users. You'll also have more CHOICE of games and more game developers. YOU will have lost nothing. I will have gained lots. Everyone's a winner.
As for Steam being bad, then that's nonsense. If there was no Steam I wouldn't be playing 'Metro: Last Light' (remember that, what this thread's supposed to be about) on Linux. I am and I love it. So... playing the game or the game not existing for Linux... hmmm, tough one. If there was no Steam on Linux then there'd be no game, end of. No DRM version and no DRM free version, nothing. If you don't like DRM, great (does any customer actually LIKE DRM? Think about it) but I don't want to hear your opinion of it on a thread for a game you have no intention of playing! Start your own thread about it.
And if Steam were to do an Android with SteamOS, then so what? You'll still have your flavour of Linux exactly as it was before SteamOS but with better graphic drivers and more users. You'll also have more CHOICE of games and more game developers. YOU will have lost nothing. I will have gained lots. Everyone's a winner.
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Quoting: Quote from scaineWow, Dima, that quote makes Stallman sound like a reasonable guy. And "reasonable" isn't a word I tend to associate with him. He's very, very black and white on most issues and I find a lot of his views extremely unpalatable. Check his website for examples, of which there are many.
What Stallman says usually sounds reasonable, in contrast to what other people say he said.
He also isn't black/white at all.
On multiple occasions he explixitly acknowledges the difference between the philosophical truth of an idea and its practicability.
He just doesn't accept some compromises, namely the notion that convenience was a criteria for practicability.
So you shouldn't
Boycotting Ubisoft or EA for example is a completely different decision although based on the same premises.
Also, as soon as you realize that RMS is just a pretty flawless logic machine, not accepting any social boundaries that might hinder the clarity of his thought-process, you'll like him a lot more
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Quoting: Quote from CaldazarSo you shouldn't accept tolerate Steam's DRM just because it is more convenient but because you weighted the good Steam brings vs the bad.
I'm genuinely interested to know what you consider is "the bad" about Steam. In particular, what is bad about Steam's implementation of DRM.
Cheers.
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Quoting: Quote from CaldazarSo you shouldn't accept tolerate Steam's DRM just because it is more convenient but because you weighted the good Steam brings vs the bad.
Boycotting Ubisoft or EA for example is a completely different decision although based on the same premises.
No, I don't personally accept that. It's definitely about convenience for me. Steam has DRM, which is technically bad, but I don't notice it. At all. Ever. And if do, ever, notice it, then I'll re-evaluate whether Steam is good or bad. At the moment, it's all good. Everything about Steam is good, for me :
1. Prices are reasonable, sales are incredible.
2. Downloads are fast, really fast.
3. Updates are automatic.
There are literally (again I'll stress "for me") no downsides.
YMMV, I accept that.
Oh, and Stallman is very black and white on his website, which is what I base my information on. There is no middle ground with his views there. Don't have children. Don't use WEP or WPA on your WIFI. Don't give money to beggars. There's a lot of very hard black/white views on there and he endorses those views by using his name as the website. It's his website.
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The problem with DRM, especially on Linux, is that it adds to the already virulent notion that unfree software is the legit norm, while free software is the abomination, possibly illegal.
That's no paranoid exaggeration. It's actually a widespread belief that Linux is illegal because it is libre, to a degree that people threaten to call the police if you promote it.
=> For example
That's what we're dealing with and it's a huge damage to society. Every DRM getting our "Legit-Stamp" add to this.
For me personally and practically, the main problem is that the software on Steam is linked to an account. I can't just lend it to someone else or resell it after I played through.
Especially here in Germany we have a problem with the censorship of any display of violence against humans.
Now if a gamer in the US wanted to "gift" me the uncensored US version, we'd better take care that Steam doesn't get wind of it or two bans will follow.
That takes off quite a bit of my freedom to decide what's happening in my computer.
All that said, like with lying, it's tolerable to a degree, for example to avoid cheating in multiplayers, but the principle ethics of it being inherently wrong stays untouched by practical considerations. Ethics always comes first.
That's no paranoid exaggeration. It's actually a widespread belief that Linux is illegal because it is libre, to a degree that people threaten to call the police if you promote it.
=> For example
QuoteAfter confiscating the [Linux] disks I called a confrence with the student and that is how I came to discover you and your organization. Mr. Starks, [...] I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom. At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful.
That's what we're dealing with and it's a huge damage to society. Every DRM getting our "Legit-Stamp" add to this.
For me personally and practically, the main problem is that the software on Steam is linked to an account. I can't just lend it to someone else or resell it after I played through.
Especially here in Germany we have a problem with the censorship of any display of violence against humans.
Now if a gamer in the US wanted to "gift" me the uncensored US version, we'd better take care that Steam doesn't get wind of it or two bans will follow.
That takes off quite a bit of my freedom to decide what's happening in my computer.
All that said, like with lying, it's tolerable to a degree, for example to avoid cheating in multiplayers, but the principle ethics of it being inherently wrong stays untouched by practical considerations. Ethics always comes first.
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If it's okay for you, I'd like to have the further DRM debate on a forum thread dedicated to it, because I feel we are moving away from the original topic too much. If you have opinions about DRM you would like to share, please post them onto this thread: http://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/456.
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Apologies Samsai :'(
@Caldazar - I have replied on the new thread linked to above.
On topic.... played a bit more today. Set governor to performance and graphical slider to about 66% for best experience here. Can't comment on what effects might be missing or dumbed down for the Linux version as I haven't played the Windows version. I find the game immersive and fun and quite easy (which is what I like personally).
@Caldazar - I have replied on the new thread linked to above.
On topic.... played a bit more today. Set governor to performance and graphical slider to about 66% for best experience here. Can't comment on what effects might be missing or dumbed down for the Linux version as I haven't played the Windows version. I find the game immersive and fun and quite easy (which is what I like personally).
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only thing that seems to be missing is the Tesselation
http://www.overclock.net/t/1439965/metro-last-light-windows-vs-linux-graphics-comparison
http://www.overclock.net/t/1439965/metro-last-light-windows-vs-linux-graphics-comparison
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