Free Valve Games For Debian Developers

Quoting: Quote from ElderSnakeWhat Xpander said.

I love DRM-free as much as anyone, but I'd be pressing the game developers to provide DRM-free version rather than hounding the Steam service, because they're just providing the games to you, keeping them up to date and a bunch of other community features etc (if the dev chose to implement them) and Valve will likely never change that.

If Valve forced every game added to their library to be DRM-free, they would likely have a far smaller library and therefore less customers.
The change has to start with the devs themselves IMO. Steam is just another vehicle of distribution, albeit a very influential one, but there's only so much compromising they would do to their service.

They don't need to force developers to go DRM-free, but at least they could label their games so you know what you're buying. I think they don't do that because they don't hold to any DRM-free promise.

Quoting: Quote from ShmerlIf Valve wants to make a positive move, they should start offering DRM free games, rather than "free" games. That would be a welcome step. And it's time for them to address the issue of DRM anyway.

I bought Paranautical Activity from Steam and it's DRM-free. Unfortunately it not ported to linux as was planned...

Come on @Shmerl! I like your approach but don't be bigoted.

You know full well that the requirement to download a game via a download-service isn't DRM.
The question is whether you can run and save the game without the parent-service running and yes you can do so with a lot of steam games. There's even a growing list of DRM-free steam games out there.

They are even distrupting the whole business by opening up the consoles.
Now they honor debian devs, basically saying they consider them family and all you have to acknowledge is how you're butthurt that your perceived white knight in the game turns out to be a wimpy chicken, not risking a cent of their revenue for your rescue?

Quoting: Quote from berarmaThey don't need to force developers to go DRM-free, but at least they could label their games so you know what you're buying. I think they don't do that because they don't hold to any DRM-free promise.

I agree, this is the main reason why I am not a Steam user. I tried some of the DRM-free games lists out there, but they are incomplete and inaccurate.

Well folks we do have a wiki http://www.gamingonlinux.com/crowdfunding/

If anyone wants to they can feel free to create a DRM free games on Steam list.

Quoting: Quote from Shmerl

Quoting: Quote from Half-ShotI wouldn't expect them to give out DRM free games because Steam.

Why? In many cases developers have no objections to DRM-free distribution (and sell the same games on HB and GOG DRM-free for example). It's only Steam service limitations prevent DRM-free options from being offered. So as I said - it's time for Valve to address that. And that would be welcome. Offering games at no charge but with DRM? No, thanks.

That's just your opinion, I play Dota 2 a lot and you can only buy items to change your look, narrator, skin or currier, nothing which gives you advantage over other players.

Quoting: Quote from AoC@Hamish http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/derogatory

DRM wasn't what the news was about, you're all off on a tangent and my statement is derogatory? You have to be British... (there's your derogatory)

I perfectly know what that word means.

I agree that this whole DRM debate was not what this news was about, and it is actually off-topic, but your comment quickly devolved into a very cheap shot.

Although, my comment about starting fires can apply to many posters in this thread, of various stripes.

And no, I am not British. Care to clarify that one?

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweThe desura client doesnt let you you download windows games.

No, but Desura does, thanks to the fact that you can download games straight from the webstore. I for one really do appreciate this feature, and do find Steam lacking for not having it, although I do agree that that in of itself is not DRM; that being said, I hate having to install unnecessary software just to get where I need, and I am very glad Desura offers this.

Quoting: Quote from berarmaThey don't need to force developers to go DRM-free, but at least they could label their games so you know what you're buying. I think they don't do that because they don't hold to any DRM-free promise.

Well, on this front we are still waiting on Desura to get their act together; Humble Store already qualifies, although I wish they would make it so that you could apply a DRM-Free filter like you can for platforms when scrolling through their catalogue.

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweSteam by itself is a download client/browser that offers game developers a choice on DRM.

While also providing them with their own DRM service to hook into. Not quite the same as having it all be the developers choice.

Hamish, it is the developers choice, Steam offering up their own doesn't mean a developer has to use it. It is a matter of simple fact that it is a developers choice to use DRM on Steam or not.

And really people, this article is nothing to do with DRM, it's about free games, take a chill pill guys?

For those who compared Steam client with browsers - you are wrong. Is Steam client open source? Even if it doesn't need to connect to the server to reinstall a backup (which I doubt, it most probably does need to connect to the server), where can you get that client if Steam goes bust? It's closed and proprietary. So if Steam closes down you lose the service and the client. So comparison with the browser goes out of the window.

If you wish to continue debating DRM there is a forum post for that:
http://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/456

This is an article about debian developers getting free games, shadap already!