Never thought that being a reader of GamingOnLinux and Debian mailing lists would intersect so directly. But look at what just arrived at my mailbox. That is right, Valve is giving away all their past and future games to Debian Developers.
Read the original post at debian-devel-announce. Disclaimer: I am not a Debian Developer.
QuoteHi all,
At $dayjob for Collabora, we've been working with Valve on SteamOS, which is based on Debian. Valve are keen to contribute back to the community, and I'm discussing a couple of ways that they may be able to do that [0].
Immediately though, they've offered a free subscription to any Debian Developer which provides access to all past and future Valve produced games [1]!
If you're interested, and a DD, simply mail [email protected] with a mail signed by a key in the Debian keyring, and he'll send you back a redemption code to add in Steam. If you haven't heared from him in a couple of days, you can also prod me at [email protected] as he may happen to be on holiday that week.
Happy gaming,
Neil
[0] If anyone has any specific ideas, drop me a mail :)
[1] List at http://deb.li/91yz, but excluding Steam Greenlight.
Read the original post at debian-devel-announce. Disclaimer: I am not a Debian Developer.
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Not true in the case of for example Half-Life 2 it doesn't require any client.
"Not only that, even if you get it, to restore the game it needs to connect to a service which doesn't exist anymore. That's it - no restore. "
Not true in the case of Half-Life 2, no client needed to "restore" the back up and so no service needed to restore it. CTRL + C followed by CTRL + V is all that is needed to "restore" Half-Life 2.
The fact that some games on Steam use DRM(in some cases the DRM Steam provides as an option to developers, in some cases 3rd part DRM and in some cases both) doesn't mean that all games on Steam use DRM. In fact is it not the case. Some games on Steam like Half-Life 2 don't use DRM.
It is not a compressed backup of any kind, it is a simple copy and paste of the game directory created without using the Steam client at all.
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Although if you wanted to you could compress the backup when creating it, in which case you would uncompress it on the target computer using the appropriate tool for the compression format you used, this was however not what I did with Half-Life 2.
So what? Why restrict yourself to an official Steam backup? GOG and Humble Bundle don't provide official backup features unlike Steam. Copy and paste is all you have got with them too. It is an arbitrary restriction. The fact that I didn't use the official Steam backup feature doesn't suddenly make Half-Life 2 any less DRM free.
Edit:
Look to clarify the debate, this is how I see it:
We are debating if certain games are DRM free or not. Your claim is that if a game is on Steam is is automatically DRMed, my claim is that that is not the case and that the mere fact of being distributed(even exclusively) via Steam does not render an otherwise DRM free game DRMed. How a game is packaged if it uses standard Windows installers or .deb packages or .rpm packages or a ZIP archive is irrelevant to its DRM status. Copy and pasting directories is a perfectly valid installation method.
Does Steam provide DRM free games? Yes several in fact(But maybe not as many as some people claim). Does Steam advertise that fact? No, but nobody claimed they did. Is that something they guarantee for all their games? No, but nobody claimed it was. You have been maintaining that the mere fact a game is on Steam means it is not DRM free, that is not true.
Edit:
To reformulate my claim, using some of your wording, it is this:
1. There exist games on Steam that will be usable without Steam's services being present anywhere.
Edit2:
DRM is 100%, totally and utterly a technical matter and has nothing to do with guarantees or the lack thereof. As a purely empirical matter Half-Life 2(as one example among several) will continue to work forever even if Steam were to shutdown.
The games are DRM free whether they tell you about it or not. Should they tell you about it? Yes. Should they have complete and accurate information about the DRM status of all their games? Yes. Does the fact they don't do that mean none of the games they offer on Steam are DRM free? No.