There is an "ask me anything" going on in reddit-land right now with the folks from the current Humble Bundle, I decided to ask the question a lot of people have been wondering.
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A bit of a cocky answer, but it finally gives us some insight as to why we have delays in Linux titles or Linux titles coming out in a beta form.
Humble feel it would harm their reputation to ask a developer to sit out and wait for the next bundle for the sake of a Linux version.
I think it harms their reputation with Linux fans to have a game completely missing for the sake of what sounds like their ego's.
It certainly doesn't make me jump for joy at them even with multiple other titles, considering the "Humble Indie Bundle" is their last area for cross-platform, it seems completely against their own tagline to not push a game back if it doesn't have a Linux version ready.
Take their latest HIB11, their tagline is and I quote:
I can count five. Having one with only a Windows version doesn't count as a cross-platform game, or has the meaning of cross-platform changed recently?
I do very much appreciate Jeff taking the time to answer my question, and hope they do continue to be a force for Linux gaming. This is just to point out some things I find annoying, and from our comments section, so do you.
What do you think guys? Has this fixed the issue of games not appearing for you? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
liamdaweParsap/Humble Team - Is there a reason HIB's are pushed out with Linux ports either missing or in beta, why can they not be pushed back to a later bundle which will inevitably come? It's not like HIB's will stop anytime soon.
Jeff Rosen. Humble Bundle CEOIt is important to remember that we are actually the reason that many games are ported to Linux. It is painful for us and our reputation among developers to convince someone to drop everything and port their game to Linux, or hire a Linux porter, or have us port it in house for them... and then despite good faith efforts on all parties, it just doesn't happen the exact right amount of time.
It really sucks to see a developer doing everything right, following all of our advice, and then be like "sorry... could you uh, go ahead and move to this other surprise bundle? Thaaaaanks."
We do indeed do this sometimes, and it really, really sucks. This might have already happened to one of the games in question already.
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A bit of a cocky answer, but it finally gives us some insight as to why we have delays in Linux titles or Linux titles coming out in a beta form.
Humble feel it would harm their reputation to ask a developer to sit out and wait for the next bundle for the sake of a Linux version.
I think it harms their reputation with Linux fans to have a game completely missing for the sake of what sounds like their ego's.
It certainly doesn't make me jump for joy at them even with multiple other titles, considering the "Humble Indie Bundle" is their last area for cross-platform, it seems completely against their own tagline to not push a game back if it doesn't have a Linux version ready.
Take their latest HIB11, their tagline is and I quote:
HIB11Get six incredible cross-platform games.
I can count five. Having one with only a Windows version doesn't count as a cross-platform game, or has the meaning of cross-platform changed recently?
I do very much appreciate Jeff taking the time to answer my question, and hope they do continue to be a force for Linux gaming. This is just to point out some things I find annoying, and from our comments section, so do you.
What do you think guys? Has this fixed the issue of games not appearing for you? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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This its my first Bundle, and i love it,its a great bundle, and i like steam too, but now i only Buy a Game if work on Linux. (if the game have windows and linux version for the same prices its a Must Have).
i must say Thanks for Humble indi game for bring us Linux Game Port whit lowcost price, when torchligh 2? I hope soon,
Its hard bring all the games with Linux Port, but i think HIB its doing a great Job.
Be a linux gamer its a reality now, and i want more bundles with great linux geames. keep going guys.
i must say Thanks for Humble indi game for bring us Linux Game Port whit lowcost price, when torchligh 2? I hope soon,
Its hard bring all the games with Linux Port, but i think HIB its doing a great Job.
Be a linux gamer its a reality now, and i want more bundles with great linux geames. keep going guys.
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Ok i need to leave some words.
1.) I'm realy realy thankfull what Humble Bundle did for the linux platform. There is no question that they where one of the early adaptors.
2.) I totally feel unhappy how Humble Bundle has developed.
1.) I'm realy realy thankfull what Humble Bundle did for the linux platform. There is no question that they where one of the early adaptors.
2.) I totally feel unhappy how Humble Bundle has developed.
- ]First they droped DRM Free and told it isn't called Humble Indie Bundle so calm down. << I accepted that
- Second they allowed big publisher to use their brand to reach new customers (EA....). Again they told it isn't called Humble Indie Bundle so calm down. << I accepted that
- Third they opened the store which now combines the first 2 points. None DRM Free Games / big Publisher using their brand to sell. ..... << I accpeted that
- A week or two weeks ago they changed from one price for all areas to this screw up european cause they are rich model .... << honestly i'm not willing to accpet that
- And now they basically screwed up all the former "oh it's not called Humble Indie Bundle" cause they released a bundle with a game which is told (Linux Version within !!! next year !!!) << sorry i'm not willing to accept this either
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thanx liam you wrote about that. They should have waited or droped Giana Sisters for this HIB. And Giana Sisters is a good example that the dev's / publisher don't care. Read that http://steamcommunity.com/app/223220/discussions/0/864959336783102180/ carefully. I don't think we will ever have a good support from the dev's themself. Even if HIB might do a port. I wouldn't even wonder if this "port" is again a wine bottle.
Sorry Humble Bundle ... i would fight for you ... but basically you screwed up all your advantages over steam and other sides for me as a linux user. So let me know why i should keep fighting for you and always paying more than windows and mac users if i get treated worse than them ?
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Quoting: Glog78Sorry Humble Bundle ... i would fight for you ... but basically you screwed up all your advantages over steam and other sides for me as a linux user. So let me know why i should keep fighting for you and always paying more than windows and mac users if i get treated worse than them ?
Still you can opt to donate / support more the other games in the bundle (which made the effort and deserve the support). You dont even need to leave a tip or reduce it if you don't want to or feel they are not doing as good a job.
I donated more to the other games for now.
If I see more good news then I will increase my allocation / tips later on.
Still many good games appearing so they need the support.
Anyway I believe Linux will equal or surpass Mac in importance / marketshare in the next few years so things are bound to improve and we need to keep putting our grain of salt to make this happen.
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Quoting: Glog78Sorry Humble Bundle ... i would fight for you ... but basically you screwed up all your advantages over steam and other sides for me as a linux user. So let me know why i should keep fighting for you and always paying more than windows and mac users if i get treated worse than them ?
You can buy 10 great indie games for less than the price of a single full priced one. They are DRM free, and they run on the operating system you use (or, in the case of a single game, will in a month or so). And a whole lot of that money you gave goes to charity (default is 20%).
Have some perspective, you are getting a really great deal. All this talk of HB having sold out is nonsense. How many of the linux games you own were HB ports, would they have ever happened without HB?
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Probably i should make clear.
"So let me know why i should keep fighting for you and always paying more than windows and mac users if i get treated worse than them ?"
This doesn't mean only buying the games in case i have the bundle and i payed again more money as every avarage group.
But for example will i buy it a second time and give away ? << Probably not
Will i advertise to friends that there is a new bundle ? << Probably not anymore that often
Or let me express it more softly ... do i care as much as before for the brand humble bundle ? ... definitly not. And isn't that the real shame we are talking about. How much trust humble bundle lost ?
"So let me know why i should keep fighting for you and always paying more than windows and mac users if i get treated worse than them ?"
This doesn't mean only buying the games in case i have the bundle and i payed again more money as every avarage group.
But for example will i buy it a second time and give away ? << Probably not
Will i advertise to friends that there is a new bundle ? << Probably not anymore that often
Or let me express it more softly ... do i care as much as before for the brand humble bundle ? ... definitly not. And isn't that the real shame we are talking about. How much trust humble bundle lost ?
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