https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWJOXuqVcAc
I'm a bit late on actually covering this, but any fans of Postal 2 will know that the Linux version is rather far behind Windows in terms of updates due to how busy Icculus is, so RunningWithScissors has taken it in-house.
One day recently I got this out of the blue tweet from RWS:
RWS we very much appreciate you keeping us informed!
What are we missing?
Well Postal 2 was updated a lot in the past year, and sadly not much (if any) of it has made it's way to Linux. We are missing things like steam cloud, steam workshop, and absolutely tons of new content.
We don't have the Apocalypse weekend mod integrated into the game, we don't have all the lovely new vocal content, dismemberment was put into the entire game, missing new weapons, and the list goes on. That's a lot we don't have.
So, here's to hoping now that RWS has finally taken it in-house we will see all the new features, fixes and expansions that Windows Postal 2 players have been getting. We hope when they get this sorted they can work from one code-base and not rely on others to port for them so we don't end up waiting again.
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Live a week in the life of "The Postal Dude"; a hapless everyman just trying to check off some chores. Buying milk, returning an overdue library book, getting Gary Coleman's autograph, what could possibly go wrong?
Blast, chop and piss your way through a freakshow of American caricatures in this darkly humorous first-person adventure. Meet Krotchy: the toy mascot gone bad, visit your Uncle Dave at his besieged religious cult compound and battle sewer-dwelling Taliban when you least expect them! Endure the sphincter-clenching challenge of cannibal rednecks, corrupt cops and berserker elephants. Accompanied by Champ, the Dude's semi-loyal pitbull, battle your way through open environments populated with amazingly unpredictable AI. Utilize an arsenal of weapons ranging from a humble shovel to a uniquely hilarious rocket launcher.
You can buy Postal 2 from their Humble Store Widget and get it cross-platform with a Steam key too. The game does work fine, but it just misses tons of content added over the last year or so. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
I'm a bit late on actually covering this, but any fans of Postal 2 will know that the Linux version is rather far behind Windows in terms of updates due to how busy Icculus is, so RunningWithScissors has taken it in-house.
One day recently I got this out of the blue tweet from RWS:
@gamingonlinux Apologize to your readership for the delays in the updates. Taken it in house now, hoping thing will progress faster.
RunningWithScissors (@RWSPOSTAL) October 30, 2014
RWS we very much appreciate you keeping us informed!
What are we missing?
Well Postal 2 was updated a lot in the past year, and sadly not much (if any) of it has made it's way to Linux. We are missing things like steam cloud, steam workshop, and absolutely tons of new content.
We don't have the Apocalypse weekend mod integrated into the game, we don't have all the lovely new vocal content, dismemberment was put into the entire game, missing new weapons, and the list goes on. That's a lot we don't have.
So, here's to hoping now that RWS has finally taken it in-house we will see all the new features, fixes and expansions that Windows Postal 2 players have been getting. We hope when they get this sorted they can work from one code-base and not rely on others to port for them so we don't end up waiting again.
Official About
Live a week in the life of "The Postal Dude"; a hapless everyman just trying to check off some chores. Buying milk, returning an overdue library book, getting Gary Coleman's autograph, what could possibly go wrong?
Blast, chop and piss your way through a freakshow of American caricatures in this darkly humorous first-person adventure. Meet Krotchy: the toy mascot gone bad, visit your Uncle Dave at his besieged religious cult compound and battle sewer-dwelling Taliban when you least expect them! Endure the sphincter-clenching challenge of cannibal rednecks, corrupt cops and berserker elephants. Accompanied by Champ, the Dude's semi-loyal pitbull, battle your way through open environments populated with amazingly unpredictable AI. Utilize an arsenal of weapons ranging from a humble shovel to a uniquely hilarious rocket launcher.
You can buy Postal 2 from their Humble Store Widget and get it cross-platform with a Steam key too. The game does work fine, but it just misses tons of content added over the last year or so. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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A little confusing since Ryan Gordon added it to "Doing" on his Trello page in September...
https://trello.com/b/y0wvS4ec/icculusboard
Still, in many ways this is the best move - icculus is way overburdened at the moment and by doing this themselves RWS is in many ways just demonstrating their increased maturity as an Indie developer. Considering that the next game they do whatever it is will likely be built on UE4 anyway should also help matters greatly in this regard.
Considering this has been basically ready to go since May though, I will be very glad when the updates do finally arrive on our own fine, fair shores.
https://trello.com/b/y0wvS4ec/icculusboard
Still, in many ways this is the best move - icculus is way overburdened at the moment and by doing this themselves RWS is in many ways just demonstrating their increased maturity as an Indie developer. Considering that the next game they do whatever it is will likely be built on UE4 anyway should also help matters greatly in this regard.
Considering this has been basically ready to go since May though, I will be very glad when the updates do finally arrive on our own fine, fair shores.
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I think icculus should stop new projects and focus on fixing the ones than already exist, how is possible than Goat simulator still not works at all? This article just prove that point.
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Wait...Portal 2 is being updated? After over ten years!?! I haven't played this game since grade school, and it still gets content? Talk about LTS.
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philip550c 7 Nov 2014
Wait...Portal 2 is being updated? After over ten years!?! I haven't played this game since grade school, and it still gets content? Talk about LTS.Postal 2 you mean?
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Wait...Portal 2 is being updated? After over ten years!?! I haven't played this game since grade school, and it still gets content? Talk about LTS.Postal 2 you mean?
I believe you will find that to be an old, old, joke...
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It's good that they took it in-house, but... Because Ryan's busy? Really? Maybe it's just me, but I think there's more to it than that.
Ryan seems to be quite anti-GamerGate, judging by his tweets.
RWS on the other hand, is very pro-GamerGate.
It's business and all, but I'd be hard-pressed to not at least consider this as being a huge factor. It is suspicious timing, if you ask me. Ryan has been busy since Loki disbanded...
Ryan seems to be quite anti-GamerGate, judging by his tweets.
RWS on the other hand, is very pro-GamerGate.
It's business and all, but I'd be hard-pressed to not at least consider this as being a huge factor. It is suspicious timing, if you ask me. Ryan has been busy since Loki disbanded...
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It's good that they took it in-house, but... Because Ryan's busy? Really? Maybe it's just me, but I think there's more to it than that.
Ryan seems to be quite anti-GamerGate, judging by his tweets.
RWS on the other hand, is very pro-GamerGate.
It's business and all, but I'd be hard-pressed to not at least consider this as being a huge factor. It is suspicious timing, if you ask me. Ryan has been busy since Loki disbanded...
I had the sane thought about the gamersgate stuff which forced me to unfollow RWS.
I asked Ryan about it, but he said he didn't know RWS supported them and he said he hopes they change their minds.
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It seems Icculus is just as puzzled about this as you are:
https://trello.com/c/6djZ447x/78-update-linux-and-mac-postal-2
https://trello.com/c/6djZ447x/78-update-linux-and-mac-postal-2
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I asked Ryan about it, but he said he didn't know RWS supported them and he said he hopes they change their minds.
Even though GamerGate is for the most part a bunch of sexist and hate filled garbage, I can actually understand the stance RWS has taken on it; in their case they have indeed suffered unfair prejudice from the media for years and have even seen the review scores for their games altered due to political convenience and unfair pressure. I can see perfectly well why they would take the stance they do, even if it is unfortunate that the aspersions GamerGate usually casts are almost always in the wrong direction.
Even with all of this being accepted though, Vince Desi and the rest of RWS are not the sort of people that would end a long standing relationship over a political difference, and Ryan is indeed actually far busier than he has ever been before; work for him has been growing steadily ever since the first Humble Indie Bundle, never mind the the arrival of Steam, GOG.com, and everything else later on. I would strongly suggest we do not read too much into this.
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Also, while not about this game specifically, it does still help further the real point here:
https://twitter.com/icculus/status/527288128290422785
And then there is also this:
https://twitter.com/icculus/status/527156136798347264
https://twitter.com/icculus/status/527288128290422785
And then there is also this:
https://twitter.com/icculus/status/527156136798347264
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[quote=Hamish][quote=liamdawe]I asked Ryan about it, but he said he didn't know RWS supported them and he said he hopes they change their minds.
[quote=Hamish]
GG is filled with some truly great people, it's a same that you only see the fringe stuff (which I can assure you, the hate and abuse runs think on both sides, just the reporting is one sided). Still, not going to debate all that here, and sorry if we've upset any of our supporters by supporting what we view to be a consumer movement for ethics in gaming journalism and a studio's right to artistic freedom. Sadly the main stream press have successfully managed to convince many rational people it's nothing but a hate group, which serves to cover their own asses.
Still, really appreciate you looking at it from our side despite your anti stance. And yeah, you're totally right, us taking P2 in house has nothing to do with Ryan's view GG (the decision was made before GG) nor has this situation altered the respect we hold for Ryan or the appreciation of all he's done for us the last 10 years(!). The dude has a ton of plates spinning no doubt, and surely prioritizes his paid contracts over us (as anyone would). For reasons we'll never understand, he has never and will still not accept any payment from us in order to contract him officially as much as we'd love him to.
It's been nearly a year since the first Windows updates and Mac and Linux users, and six months or so since we've been ready to port, yet they are still stuck on the original build and we know this is unacceptable (we're taking a lot of heat from it, Mac and Linux make up 10% of our user base which would probably be higher if we had the updates out there). We've ordered some Macs and given our lead coder some time to dig into SDL, so we hope we can bring it to you guys sooner rather than later. Might still take a while, but at least we are fully accountable now for any further delays.
[quote=Hamish]
Even though GamerGate is for the most part a bunch of sexist and hate filled garbage, I can actually understand the stance RWS has taken on it; in their case they have indeed suffered unfair prejudice from the media for years and have even seen the review scores for their games altered due to political convenience and unfair pressure. I can see perfectly well why they would take the stance they do, even if it is unfortunate that the aspersions GamerGate usually casts are almost always in the wrong direction.
Even with all of this being accepted though, Vince Desi and the rest of RWS are not the sort of people that would end a long standing relationship over a political difference, and Ryan is indeed actually far busier than he has ever been before; work for him has been growing steadily ever since the first Humble Indie Bundle, never mind the the arrival of Steam, GOG.com, and everything else later on. I would strongly suggest we do not read too much into this.
GG is filled with some truly great people, it's a same that you only see the fringe stuff (which I can assure you, the hate and abuse runs think on both sides, just the reporting is one sided). Still, not going to debate all that here, and sorry if we've upset any of our supporters by supporting what we view to be a consumer movement for ethics in gaming journalism and a studio's right to artistic freedom. Sadly the main stream press have successfully managed to convince many rational people it's nothing but a hate group, which serves to cover their own asses.
Still, really appreciate you looking at it from our side despite your anti stance. And yeah, you're totally right, us taking P2 in house has nothing to do with Ryan's view GG (the decision was made before GG) nor has this situation altered the respect we hold for Ryan or the appreciation of all he's done for us the last 10 years(!). The dude has a ton of plates spinning no doubt, and surely prioritizes his paid contracts over us (as anyone would). For reasons we'll never understand, he has never and will still not accept any payment from us in order to contract him officially as much as we'd love him to.
It's been nearly a year since the first Windows updates and Mac and Linux users, and six months or so since we've been ready to port, yet they are still stuck on the original build and we know this is unacceptable (we're taking a lot of heat from it, Mac and Linux make up 10% of our user base which would probably be higher if we had the updates out there). We've ordered some Macs and given our lead coder some time to dig into SDL, so we hope we can bring it to you guys sooner rather than later. Might still take a while, but at least we are fully accountable now for any further delays.
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Thanks for the clarifications. :)
I will however say that when it comes to GG my impressions do not really come from the mainstream press but rather from my connections in the Indie gaming industry, although I do admit to not really following the matter all that closely so I may indeed be missing out on some of the subtleties.
Still, I can assure that you that none of this has affected my support for RWS as a developer.
I will however say that when it comes to GG my impressions do not really come from the mainstream press but rather from my connections in the Indie gaming industry, although I do admit to not really following the matter all that closely so I may indeed be missing out on some of the subtleties.
Still, I can assure that you that none of this has affected my support for RWS as a developer.
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Thanks man, welcome reasoned voices on both sides! I think the problem is there is not enough of that going on which is why it's easy to end up on one extreme of the argument.
We reject any harassment on any side but refuse to accept that GG is a primalry a hate movement after spending a month looking into it before we posted our article. Writing off GG's points because of a few crazies seems as wrong to us as writing off all Museums due to terrorists, or all Animal rights supporters because some actually do cause harm to people. Crazy people out there will try and hijack any cause, sadly.
We stand a lot to lose from supporting GG, and the possibility that Ryan will never talk to us again is very real (and would be sad), but we felt we had to come out on the side of the core gamer here who we feel are not being heard. We never had the best relationship with the gaming press and I doubt this will help
FWIW, not everyone in RWS is pro GG, but no one is anti it. Our lead artist and designer is female and we have a pretty diverse mix of people both ethnically and in their sexual preference. Thought that was worth pointing out before people start to say 'well yeah you would say that you bunch of CIS white readnecks!' lol.
Opps, guess we are getting into it here, well that's the last we'll say on the matter as it's not relevant really on this site, what is, is that we have managed to compile the Linux code :) This is a small first step and we have a long way to go, we might reach out to you guys for help beta testing when we get that far.
We reject any harassment on any side but refuse to accept that GG is a primalry a hate movement after spending a month looking into it before we posted our article. Writing off GG's points because of a few crazies seems as wrong to us as writing off all Museums due to terrorists, or all Animal rights supporters because some actually do cause harm to people. Crazy people out there will try and hijack any cause, sadly.
We stand a lot to lose from supporting GG, and the possibility that Ryan will never talk to us again is very real (and would be sad), but we felt we had to come out on the side of the core gamer here who we feel are not being heard. We never had the best relationship with the gaming press and I doubt this will help
FWIW, not everyone in RWS is pro GG, but no one is anti it. Our lead artist and designer is female and we have a pretty diverse mix of people both ethnically and in their sexual preference. Thought that was worth pointing out before people start to say 'well yeah you would say that you bunch of CIS white readnecks!' lol.
Opps, guess we are getting into it here, well that's the last we'll say on the matter as it's not relevant really on this site, what is, is that we have managed to compile the Linux code :) This is a small first step and we have a long way to go, we might reach out to you guys for help beta testing when we get that far.
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