It's quite hard to contain my excitement about this game, but as always we will give it a fair look and tell you what we think about Dying Light. This is not a full review, but a look at what you can expect with the game right now on Linux.
This was tested with an Intel 4670K and an Nvidia 970 4GB GPU, so I don't exactly have low-end hardware.
NOTE: We will continue to update this as we find more issues. Updates from the developers will be at the bottom.
My initial thoughts
Wow, this game sure does look pretty, and my settings aren't even on the highest, and with a 970 at the helm even on Linux it runs really smooth. The opening cinematic does not disappoint either, and I really enjoyed the action-packed start to the game.
Right now one glaring bug on Linux is that people's mouths don't move when they talk (reported here), and while not game-breaking it is very funny, but it does ruin the immersion somewhat. It's also a little creepy to have someone stare at you, talking, and their mouths aren't moving. Mouths move during small cut-scenes, but not in general game-play.
You get a "survivor sense" pressing Q to help you locate items, which gives massive yellow arrows, so that doesn't look right at all. See this shot:
Overall, for a new high-profile game it's great to have it on Linux, but the issues could put a few people off. It is brand-new hot off the shelves though, so bugs are to be expected.
The blurring when you run is horrible, and it actually makes me feel a little bit sick, so I seriously hope they fix it to allow us to adjust it. It doesn't look good at all, and if you get that blurry in real life when you move a bit quicker, then see a doctor. Windows users seem to be able to turn it off, so it seems our setting for it just doesn't work.
The frame-rate is a bit up and down even with my rig, so they have a fair amount of optimizations to do. Especially when moving around it can jump from 30-70, but this is normal for high-profile games at release, as they always seem a bit rushed to hit deadlines. Once you get outside the FPS tanks to make the game unplayable sluggish, and I mean you're looking at an average of 20FPS and below, and this does not make for a nice experience. This does not seem like it's Linux-only, as checking even one forum post and reddit it seems it happens on Windows too. When checking again a few minutes later there are masses of people complaining about performance issues across all ranges of hardware.
Considering the FPS issues across both platforms, it seems the developers will have to fix it, as it's not Linux-only.
Holding down TAB to change weapons also seems to make the game freeze up a bit, and you can't seem to be able to change weapons that way as nothing seems to work (reported here).
The major game-breaker is at night when you first spot a special blistered zombie, you enter the safe room and...game input freezes. Confirmed this with our caster Samsai who also has the same issues. I have added it to my support ticket, and put it on the Steam forum here.
You also cannot secure safe-zones on Linux, so that's a major gameplay feature that just doesn't work.
Turning it down to 720p stops it being so sluggish, but the game still has a low FPS and isn't smooth enough to be enjoyed.
I don't often blast developers and I hope they don't see this as me being too harsh, but it seems no quality control was done on the Linux release, hell, even The Witcher 2 was less broken at release than this.
I mean, considering how widespread the problems are and how easy they are to reproduce, how were the issues not caught?
I don't know what Techland are like for supporting their games, so hopefully they won't let us all down, otherwise the reviews will blast this game quite badly, including ours.
Please comment with your FPS once outside, and tell us your hardware. I am currently testing with everything on lowest, and I've set the view distance to the lowest now too, and it seems to be a tiny bit more playable.
Check out Dying Light on Steam if you wish to try it. Personally, my advice is to hold off until we confirm patches fix it.
Prominent critic Total Biscuit confirms it too.
When we watched his Stream last night, it was fine.
About the game (From Steam)
Dying Light is an action survival game presented in first-person perspective. The game is set in a vast and dangerous open world. During the day, you roam an urban environment devastated by a mysterious epidemic, scavenging for supplies and crafting weapons to help you defeat the hordes of mindless, flesh-hungry enemies the plague has created. At night, the hunter becomes the prey as the infected grow in strength and aggression - but even more lethal are the nocturnal, inhuman predators that leave their hives to feed. You will need to make use of all your skills and any available means to survive till dawn.
Updates
A developer posted this in one thread:
Not to be too harsh here, but even looking for 5 minutes tells me it's not specific hardware, it happens on AMD/Intel and on Nvidia/AMD.
I have an official support ticket open with the issues, so we will update you if they reply to it. We will also re-review it if they manage to make it playable. Update, they replied to my ticket with:
It's also worth noting that actual review keys for this game were handed out on the launch day to game journalists. While we don't expect to get keys for big games, usually at least the bigger sites get keys to write their reviews well in advance. It seems there was some shady business with the way press copies were handled.
This is one of the most broken game launches on Linux, ever.
To end it on a lighter note: The developers are still new to Linux, so hopefully in time they will learn and fix it.
This was tested with an Intel 4670K and an Nvidia 970 4GB GPU, so I don't exactly have low-end hardware.
NOTE: We will continue to update this as we find more issues. Updates from the developers will be at the bottom.
My initial thoughts
Wow, this game sure does look pretty, and my settings aren't even on the highest, and with a 970 at the helm even on Linux it runs really smooth. The opening cinematic does not disappoint either, and I really enjoyed the action-packed start to the game.
Right now one glaring bug on Linux is that people's mouths don't move when they talk (reported here), and while not game-breaking it is very funny, but it does ruin the immersion somewhat. It's also a little creepy to have someone stare at you, talking, and their mouths aren't moving. Mouths move during small cut-scenes, but not in general game-play.
You get a "survivor sense" pressing Q to help you locate items, which gives massive yellow arrows, so that doesn't look right at all. See this shot:
Overall, for a new high-profile game it's great to have it on Linux, but the issues could put a few people off. It is brand-new hot off the shelves though, so bugs are to be expected.
The blurring when you run is horrible, and it actually makes me feel a little bit sick, so I seriously hope they fix it to allow us to adjust it. It doesn't look good at all, and if you get that blurry in real life when you move a bit quicker, then see a doctor. Windows users seem to be able to turn it off, so it seems our setting for it just doesn't work.
The frame-rate is a bit up and down even with my rig, so they have a fair amount of optimizations to do. Especially when moving around it can jump from 30-70, but this is normal for high-profile games at release, as they always seem a bit rushed to hit deadlines. Once you get outside the FPS tanks to make the game unplayable sluggish, and I mean you're looking at an average of 20FPS and below, and this does not make for a nice experience. This does not seem like it's Linux-only, as checking even one forum post and reddit it seems it happens on Windows too. When checking again a few minutes later there are masses of people complaining about performance issues across all ranges of hardware.
Considering the FPS issues across both platforms, it seems the developers will have to fix it, as it's not Linux-only.
Holding down TAB to change weapons also seems to make the game freeze up a bit, and you can't seem to be able to change weapons that way as nothing seems to work (reported here).
The major game-breaker is at night when you first spot a special blistered zombie, you enter the safe room and...game input freezes. Confirmed this with our caster Samsai who also has the same issues. I have added it to my support ticket, and put it on the Steam forum here.
You also cannot secure safe-zones on Linux, so that's a major gameplay feature that just doesn't work.
Turning it down to 720p stops it being so sluggish, but the game still has a low FPS and isn't smooth enough to be enjoyed.
I don't often blast developers and I hope they don't see this as me being too harsh, but it seems no quality control was done on the Linux release, hell, even The Witcher 2 was less broken at release than this.
I mean, considering how widespread the problems are and how easy they are to reproduce, how were the issues not caught?
I don't know what Techland are like for supporting their games, so hopefully they won't let us all down, otherwise the reviews will blast this game quite badly, including ours.
Please comment with your FPS once outside, and tell us your hardware. I am currently testing with everything on lowest, and I've set the view distance to the lowest now too, and it seems to be a tiny bit more playable.
Check out Dying Light on Steam if you wish to try it. Personally, my advice is to hold off until we confirm patches fix it.
Prominent critic Total Biscuit confirms it too.
Hmm I take back what I said about Dying Light performance. At some point between this morning and now FPS cut itself in half
TotalBiscuit (@Totalbiscuit) January 27, 2015
When we watched his Stream last night, it was fine.
About the game (From Steam)
Dying Light is an action survival game presented in first-person perspective. The game is set in a vast and dangerous open world. During the day, you roam an urban environment devastated by a mysterious epidemic, scavenging for supplies and crafting weapons to help you defeat the hordes of mindless, flesh-hungry enemies the plague has created. At night, the hunter becomes the prey as the infected grow in strength and aggression - but even more lethal are the nocturnal, inhuman predators that leave their hives to feed. You will need to make use of all your skills and any available means to survive till dawn.
Updates
A developer posted this in one thread:
QuoteHi everyone,
We're aware of the issue and are now working on fixing it. It is most likely related to a specific hardware setup.
To help us get it right ASAP, please provide your hardware specifications in this thread if you are experiencing stuttering/FPS drops.
Not to be too harsh here, but even looking for 5 minutes tells me it's not specific hardware, it happens on AMD/Intel and on Nvidia/AMD.
I have an official support ticket open with the issues, so we will update you if they reply to it. We will also re-review it if they manage to make it playable. Update, they replied to my ticket with:
QuoteHi Liam Dawe,
Thanks for your feedback. We will work on it.
It's also worth noting that actual review keys for this game were handed out on the launch day to game journalists. While we don't expect to get keys for big games, usually at least the bigger sites get keys to write their reviews well in advance. It seems there was some shady business with the way press copies were handled.
This is one of the most broken game launches on Linux, ever.
To end it on a lighter note: The developers are still new to Linux, so hopefully in time they will learn and fix it.
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Quoting: OrkultusSo i think we are dealing with a binary that is built to support SSSE3 again, like we did with Tropico 5. My 6 core (AMD Phenom 2) @ 3.2ghz wont load the game what so ever. My laptop with the Intel i5-3210M Quad Core @ 2.5ghz, will run the game. I do suffer from low FPS on the Nvidia GT 640M 2GB. I am hoping that they fix their binary like Kalypso did with Tropico 5, so we could use our AMD phenom 2 processors. I dont see how a Phenom 2 six core couldn't handle this game. Hell i haven't even seen the entire Linux System / Desktop use more than two cores. Also it seems to play everything else amazingly.
thats entirely fine that you suffer..first you have lowend 640..secondly its mobile one, which makes it even weaker. its not meant for real gaming.. world of goo and the like only.. ohh yes you can run some 6 years old game engines also.
Quoting: aLWell, i play 1280x1024... not sure that qualifies as HD. It cost me 200euros 3 years ago or so... Not sure if that is very low end or not... but I play most of the games fine, just not in ultra high settings... bl2, metro last light, witcher 2...
I just tried redux version to check out the fps (since I already finished it the non-redux version and hadnt tried this one) and steady 40fps without any tweaking... Im using nvidia-drivers 340.65-2 so not last version, but tbh I expect to be able to play this Dying Light reducing some of the fanciest effects... am I too crazy?
you are crazy ... with that resolution it runs a bit better ofc..but this game has minimum of 560.. your 440 wont qualify in any way.
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Quoting: edqeSteamOS will define if Linux has future in gaming. I use SteamOS because I want to see what kind of gaming experience people will have with Steam Machines / SteamOS.
Future gaming? This is just a distribution with a proprietary Steam-client, nothing more and nothing less. There should be all more concern about normal ways for gaming and this way, which is based on DRM and customer binding, is meaningless from my point of view. The future is defined by freedom and not by this!
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Quoting: Xpanderyou are crazy ... with that resolution it runs a bit better ofc..but this game has minimum of 560.. your 440 wont qualify in any way.
You kinda crushed me there... I never felt there was anything I couldn't play so far.. I just had to cut the effects a little u.u
I wish I could try it out to check if i find it tolerable to play lowering the visual effects... after they make the fixes i guess of course
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Quoting: XpanderJust Terrible:Looks like your video card might be over heating (full of fluff)?
View video on youtube.com
I've played till the first save house (past the first night) at 1920x1200 with all graphics at max apart from view distance which is at default (in the middle). With the motion blur enabled the low fps isn't as noticeable. My hardware's: i7-4790K, 32GB memory, GTX Titan.
Besides a few low resolution textures, a couple of screwy shaders and only eye's animated on faces & FPS. The main issue is that some things and areas require a game pad. Like the hold tab to change weapon menu (you don't need to use this as quick switch is better for keyboard users anyway) and after entering the first (over night) save house my mouse went very slow and WASD movement wasn't working but everything was fine with the game pad. Oh and don't unplug the game pad (when using xpad drivers) or the game will crashes.
Despite the bug's I'm quite impressed and am enjoying the game much more than Dead Island (which I didn't care for).
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nope my videocard isnt overheating at all i have all the information on my second montior when playing games. it barely even hits 65°C and fan is only 20% .. what might make you think that its overheating are the lines over the game... thats cause of SimpleScreenRecorder and compton+nvidia flipping dont get a long.
usualy fullscreen games i record dont have such problems, only windowed games, but this is one of the rare games that acts up on the video output.
i played the tutorial area with fps around 35-60, which was mostly fine for me. as soon as i got the mission to go outside the framerate dropped to 15 .. turning down all graphics settings and giving the game a __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATION=1 %command% boosted it to around 19 fps ..still unplayable.. and no i wont play it at 720p...thatswhy im on PC not on console.
hope they patch it fast
Quoting: XpanderLooks like your video card might be over heating (full of fluff)?
I've played till the first save house (past the first night) at 1920x1200 with all graphics at max apart from view distance which is at default (in the middle). With the motion blur enabled the low fps isn't as noticeable. My hardware's: i7-4790K, 32GB memory, GTX Titan.
Besides a few low resolution textures, a couple of screwy shaders and only eye's animated on faces & FPS. The main issue is that some things and areas require a game pad. Like the hold tab to change weapon menu (you don't need to use this as quick switch is better for keyboard users anyway) and after entering the first (over night) save house my mouse went very slow and WASD movement wasn't working but everything was fine with the game pad. Oh and don't unplug the game pad (when using xpad drivers) or the game will crashes.
Despite the bug's I'm quite impressed and am enjoying the game much more than Dead Island (which I didn't care for).
nope my videocard isnt overheating at all i have all the information on my second montior when playing games. it barely even hits 65°C and fan is only 20% .. what might make you think that its overheating are the lines over the game... thats cause of SimpleScreenRecorder and compton+nvidia flipping dont get a long.
usualy fullscreen games i record dont have such problems, only windowed games, but this is one of the rare games that acts up on the video output.
i played the tutorial area with fps around 35-60, which was mostly fine for me. as soon as i got the mission to go outside the framerate dropped to 15 .. turning down all graphics settings and giving the game a __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATION=1 %command% boosted it to around 19 fps ..still unplayable.. and no i wont play it at 720p...thatswhy im on PC not on console.
hope they patch it fast
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On my SteamOS Dying Light not launch for what ???
http://steamcommunity.com/app/239140/discussions/0/604941528468664401/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/239140/discussions/0/604941528468664401/
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Quoting: liberodarkOn my SteamOS Dying Light not launch for what ???What? Do you mean it doesn't launch?
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Yes doesn't launch
Please help me !
Please help me !
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Quoting: liamdaweYes doesn't launchQuoting: liberodarkOn my SteamOS Dying Light not launch for what ???What? Do you mean it doesn't launch?
Please help me !
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On windows 10 no have problem for play
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