Thanks to the ever more awesome SteamDB, we have a possible list of games Valve will demo on Steam Machines at GDC, and the list is interesting.
The List (As of 22/02/15)
- Don't Starve
- Darkest Dungeon
- SteamDB Unknown App 346960 (hmmm...)
- Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
- The Talos Principle
- Batman™: Arkham Origins
- METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES
- Tomb Raider I
- GRID Autosport
Before anyone gets too excited, remember part of SteamOS is game streaming, so certain games might only be streamed. However, for Steam Machines to really take off, why would they still show Windows games? This has me thinking they could well be all native. GRID, METAL GEAR and Batman could be pretty huge for us, and we really do need a good racing game.
I actually had GRID back from when I used Windows, and I couldn't fault it. If it does come to Linux I will no doubt buy some DLC and extra copies to show my own support of it.
The interesting "SteamDB Unknown App 346960" has us puzzled too, as it's too high an ID number for a Valve game, but that can easily be changed their end, so it could be to throw us off. It's probably nothing interesting though.
The SteamDB guys even note "Relax people, it's most certainly not Half-Life 3.".
It's time to really start getting excited now, so what are your thoughts?
GDC is right around the corner, and all I want to know is when I can get my hands on that damned controller! Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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If you look at the depots it seems to be the Tomb Raider Trilogy, not just the first one.
that would probably be no.1 wish for ports for me. as TR fan, those 3 are by far best from series. 2013 is lacking in every aspect but graphics to be considered TR
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abelthorne 23 Feb 2015
Btw, speaking of ports we'd like to see - Bethesda games and especially the Fallouts and Skyrim would be nice. Though knowing Bethesda, we'd probably see Half Life 3 before that happens. Even if Linux had, say, 30% market share, Bethesda, EA and Ubisoft would be like: "Yeah, but...".You'll probably see Half-Life 4 before a Bethesda game shows up on Linux.
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23 Feb 2015
Hold on, did someone say Half Life 3 ?
can't wait !
The SteamDB guys even note "Relax people, it's most certainly not Half-Life 3".Clearly Half Life 3.
can't wait !
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I didn't understand how the link is related, but I would appreciate advice on gaming headsets; I'll probably open a forum post on this subject ^^http://www.amazon.co.uk/Andoer-Surround-Gaming-Headphone-Headset/dp/B00MA5WXPS/ref=sr_1_34?ie=UTF8&qid=1424632678&sr=8-34&keywords=gaming+headset
Clearly HL3 :P
About speculation, I would advise a "wait and see" approach, don't get your hopes too high, otherwise you may get disappointed.
I am really eager to have a steam controller in my hands, though. But I will probably wait a bit after its release to purchase one, because it is likely they will change the design shortly after the release, IMO, given its evolution until now.
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Tomb raider for linux is a must!
One day I was hoping that they would bring it so that i could buy it.
I hope !
One day I was hoping that they would bring it so that i could buy it.
I hope !
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If they release steamOS with exclusive half life 3.. will be epic
i cant imagine people from windows using something like "Line"? to be able to play haha REVENGE!
i cant imagine people from windows using something like "Line"? to be able to play haha REVENGE!
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abelthorne 23 Feb 2015
They already said it: they won't release exclusivities. HL3, when (if?) released, will be available on Windows / MacOS / Linux. Valve has absolutely no interest in pissing off a part of its customers base (moreover the one that represents 95 % of the market).
SteamOS and the Steam Machines are only a way of acquiring new customers on Steam (the console players). They're not meant at all to replace existing systems, they're here to complement them.
I'm pretty sure that Valve doesn't really care is the Steam Machines are a failure, they don't even sell them. If they fail, the loss will be on the hardware partners. they won't promote them as a way to replace Windows setups, they'll do it as a way to have a second PC for the living room. The fact that it runs Linux is really a detail.
SteamOS and the Steam Machines are only a way of acquiring new customers on Steam (the console players). They're not meant at all to replace existing systems, they're here to complement them.
I'm pretty sure that Valve doesn't really care is the Steam Machines are a failure, they don't even sell them. If they fail, the loss will be on the hardware partners. they won't promote them as a way to replace Windows setups, they'll do it as a way to have a second PC for the living room. The fact that it runs Linux is really a detail.
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Well, technically one of them has... https://openmw.org/en/Btw, speaking of ports we'd like to see - Bethesda games and especially the Fallouts and Skyrim would be nice. Though knowing Bethesda, we'd probably see Half Life 3 before that happens. Even if Linux had, say, 30% market share, Bethesda, EA and Ubisoft would be like: "Yeah, but...".You'll probably see Half-Life 4 before a Bethesda game shows up on Linux.
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Segata Sanshiro 23 Feb 2015
I didn't understand how the link is related, but I would appreciate advice on gaming headsets; I'll probably open a forum post on this subject ^^
It wasn't related. This mouse I have pastes the last thing you copy if you press the mouse wheel too hard for some reason... So accident :).
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abelthorne 23 Feb 2015
Well, technically one of them has... https://openmw.org/en/I'm talking about games published by Bethesda on Linux, of course. You could also mention Doom (1, 2, 3) and Quake (1, 2, 3, 4) as they have native Linux version from before id was bought. But they're not available comercially on Linux.
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I didn't understand how the link is related, but I would appreciate advice on gaming headsets; I'll probably open a forum post on this subject ^^
It wasn't related. This mouse I have pastes the last thing you copy if you press the mouse wheel too hard for some reason... So accident :).
Sounds like the click gets picked up by the sensor under your scroll wheel/middle mouse button. Middle click usually means "paste the last marked region". Good thing you didn't accidentally paste anything sensitive/embarrassing.
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Please take a look ...
about: An developer from kojima ,in dezember, aswer someone asking for steamos with that...
"There are NO PLANS for a SteamOS or Linux version. "
http://steamcommunity.com/app/311340/discussions/0/619574421307550428/#p1
Soo , lets begening they decided now to port ?
about: An developer from kojima ,in dezember, aswer someone asking for steamos with that...
"There are NO PLANS for a SteamOS or Linux version. "
http://steamcommunity.com/app/311340/discussions/0/619574421307550428/#p1
Soo , lets begening they decided now to port ?
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I highly doubt any of the last 4 games in the list will be native. I also highly doubt HL3 will be announced at GDC. Something like HL3 will most probably be saved for E3. Any real AAA games will probably not come to Linux until the end of 2015 at the earliest and those will be new games that are powered by the latest Unreal and Cry engines. It makes no sense for Valve to focus on porting older games whose fans have already played. Spending the effort on making new games available is easier on the technical side and more feasible on the business side.
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I was joking about the HL3 comment btw, not gonna happen. Plus I'd much prefer Portal 3 anyway :D
So good to read that, I thought I was the only person on the planet who likes Portal much more than Half Life. :)
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It wasn't related. This mouse I have pastes the last thing you copy if you press the mouse wheel too hard for some reason... So accident :).Thanks for clarifying :) This really puzzled me :P
Just speculating... Couldn't this just be a "Welcome gift" for the GDC, or something like that; just a bunch of seemingly-random games they'll give away during one of their presentations ?
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abelthorne 24 Feb 2015
Just speculating... Couldn't this just be a "Welcome gift" for the GDC, or something like that; just a bunch of seemingly-random games they'll give away during one of their presentations ?Yeah: maybe they'll demo the Steam Machines with them and give some machines with this bundle of games to selected journalists.
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SteamOS and the Steam Machines are only a way of acquiring new customers on Steam (the console players). They're not meant at all to replace existing systems, they're here to complement them.
I'm pretty sure that Valve doesn't really care is the Steam Machines are a failure, they don't even sell them. If they fail, the loss will be on the hardware partners. they won't promote them as a way to replace Windows setups, they'll do it as a way to have a second PC for the living room. The fact that it runs Linux is really a detail.
I don't think that's true. Gabe was fairly specific about Linux being a strategic move. He said that he doesn't like where Windows is going and he prefers open platforms. It has also been speculated that Valve fears Microsoft's move towards app stores threatening Steam's business model. It seems likely that Valve would prefer to kill Windows and is committed to Linux as one of the main means to that end and to some other goals relating to gaming and the directions they want to take their business. But I'd agree that they're not willing to push that ambition hard enough to piss off their existing Windows customers. They're far better off trying to win with carrots than sticks; they don't have the leverage to do it the other way even if that were their style which I don't get the impression it is.
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abelthorne 25 Feb 2015
My main point is that they don't want to replace Windows with Linux/SteamOS; they want to offer as much diversity as they can. Having an exclusivity on a game like Half-Life 3 (or any game) would be pretty stupid when they can sell it to their other customers as well, no matter the OS.
When Valve decided to go with Linux with SteamOS, it was for two reasons: 1) the Windows store that would give Microsoft a big advantage on what can be bought on Windows (as a direct concurrent of Steam for games) and 2) the fact that Microsoft didn't allow modifications of Windows to release a custom OS (e.g. no alternate desktop).
No. 1 has never taken off and will probably never be a thing, so it's not a danger for Valve anymore unless things change at Microsoft. As for no. 2, Microsoft has changed its policies. The funny thing being that it's because of the announce of SteamOS. Remember the Windows Steam Machine from... I don't remember who (Alienware I think?).
Without these two obstacles at the time, you can be sure that Valve would have released Steam Machines based on Windows and would never have ported Steam & games to Linux.
When Valve decided to go with Linux with SteamOS, it was for two reasons: 1) the Windows store that would give Microsoft a big advantage on what can be bought on Windows (as a direct concurrent of Steam for games) and 2) the fact that Microsoft didn't allow modifications of Windows to release a custom OS (e.g. no alternate desktop).
No. 1 has never taken off and will probably never be a thing, so it's not a danger for Valve anymore unless things change at Microsoft. As for no. 2, Microsoft has changed its policies. The funny thing being that it's because of the announce of SteamOS. Remember the Windows Steam Machine from... I don't remember who (Alienware I think?).
Without these two obstacles at the time, you can be sure that Valve would have released Steam Machines based on Windows and would never have ported Steam & games to Linux.
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