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Why Are We Still Dual Booting?

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The Linux community is one full of passion. From the outside it may seem strange why a small percentage of people around the world care so much about an operating system, after all it's merely a tool or set of tools used to complete certain tasks.

For many of us it isn’t that simple however, and we have a multitude and wide variety of reasons which drive us to support Linux in the way we do. Be it contributing code, running websites like this one or simply advocating the OS and showing its greatness to others.

Some have different views to others, some may insist on calling it GNU/Linux and may insist on only using free software, while others may be less ideologically inclined and simply use Linux because it's the best operating system out there. What unites all these people is the operating system and the desire for it to succeed, seeing it widely adopted or improving in many areas.

In fact, this desire for success and to show the world that we exist has led many of us to take regrettable actions, ranging from abusiveness in forums to insulting the CEO of a major game development company or even going as far as threatening developers who aren’t supporting the platform.

In the gaming world, what often makes many of us flip out most (or the more level headed among us, respond in a constructive manner) is when two simple facts are stated:

1 - Linux only accounts for a small percentage of the desktop market.

2 - Many Linux gamers dual boot or have access to a Windows machine.

While there is not a huge amount we can do about the first of these two points, the second is one which always perplexes me considering it's so simple to amend. If there are so many of us who care so greatly about Linux succeeding (often to the point where we act immaturely) then why do so many of us commit the “cardinal sin” of the Linux world and use Windows?

When I set out to do the GOL survey, one of the things I expected was the number of dual booters to slowly decline as more games come out. In June of last year there were 500 Linux games on Steam. Since then, that number has risen to 1000 and we’ve had huge games like CS:GO, Dying Light, Borderlands 2, Dead Island, Civilization: BE and many AAA games right round the corner.

Despite this, and despite the passions which surround Linux, our survey has shown no significant change in the amount of people dual booting or who have a Windows partition, unlike the amount of people using Wine which seems to be showing signs of declining. In many ways, it seems as if while Linux gaming is making leaps and bounds, Linux gamers are standing still.

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The controversial phrase “Sie wissen das nicht, aber sie tun es” (they do not know it, but still they do it) from Das Kapital comes to mind, though condescending and completely incorrect in this case. Dual booting is far more cynical, a case of “they know very well what they are doing, but still they do it”.

We are all fully aware that the thought of Linux users dual booting and using Wine as a motive not to port a game to Linux has crossed the minds of many developers and even though we may badly want that game on our OS of choice, we still choose to be part of that percentage which makes that argument a valid one.

So why this doublethink? With the recent case of the WoW petition, it is a certainty that all those signing the petition who play WoW do so either on Windows or through Wine. It is easy to see how Blizzard CEO said what he said:

Michael MorhaimeLinux usage represents less than 2% of installed desktop operating systems browsing the web, and I would assume most of those people also have access to a Windows or Mac device capable of playing Blizzard games.


From his perspective, why should he spend money on porting a game to a platform when nearly all the people who would benefit from it are customers already? The irony of the petition is that its very existence also negates its purpose (unless, of course, Linux users were to abandon Blizzard altogether).

As much as I personally loathe the idea, the unavoidable fact is that we do live in a global free market which defines culture as an industry and decides who gets access to that culture based primarily on the profit motive. Culture, in this case, is video games and to many companies giving Linux users access to that culture does not fall within the worldview of putting profit above all else.

It is somewhat presumptuous to state to people whose lives are dictated by this fundamental premise that they are wrong in their conclusions. Simply put, yes 2% (or thereabouts) may be worth it to many developers financially, but when taking into account that with a game like WoW many (if not most) of their potential 2% like the game enough to sacrifice their principles in order to play it, then the rigid logic of the free market implies that WoW (and games like it) will never come to Linux so long as those individuals continue to choose the game over the operating system.

In essence, that 2% in many cases is non-existent and rather than being its own separate "market segment", developers like Blizzard will continue to see it as a percentage of the Windows market which also happens to use Linux on the side, that is, until people stop dual booting. Simply put, there is a significantly higher chance of games getting ported if users use Linux and Linux alone.

Thoughts and suggestions

The intention of this article isn’t to tell people what to do or to shout people down for not thinking in the same way as I do (in fact, if I see discussion heading in that direction, I may well see to it that comments are deleted). The intention is to create a debate surrounding a few simple questions to which there are no right and wrong answers:

- Why do you dual boot?

- Do you see yourself first as a gamer, then as a Linux user?

- Are the 1000+ games on Steam and hundreds more on other sites still not enough for you to be a 100% Linux gamer?

- If you feel so passionately about Linux that you’ll take questionable actions to defend it, then why not do the most simple thing and stop gaming on Windows?

- As someone with a tendency towards a specific genre, do you feel the current Linux suggestion doesn't cater to your gaming needs?

Ideally, I would like to see the number of dual booters decline after reaching some sort of consensus that it would be in all our best interests. I see myself as a Linux user first and a gamer second, and haven’t had Windows on a single computer since ~2008. However, I bear no animosity towards those who think differently. If all that comes of this article is an enlightening debate surrounding these issues and perhaps leads others to oppose the statements made in this article through other articles or through comments, then I’ll still be more than happy.

Even though I may have my own views as to how things should progress which may differ from those of others, I think we can all agree that being respectful, helpful and constructive goes a long way - be it to each other or to the developers which are (or aren't) porting our games. Though dual booting might not be something will (or maybe even should) disappear overnight, aggression and abuse certainly should. Likewise, the same goes for buying Linux games before porting - something which has been repeated and discussed time and time again. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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After many years of floating through space on the back of a missile, following a successful career in beating people up for not playing Sega Saturn, the missile returned to earth. Upon returning, I discovered to my dismay that the once great console had been discontinued and Sega had abandoned the fight to dominate the world through 32-bit graphical capabilities.

After spending some years breaking breeze blocks with my head for money and being mocked by strangers, I have found a new purpose: to beat up people for not playing on Linux.
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Huddayn 13 Mar 2015
- Why do you dual boot?
I don't, but I do keep a separate hard drive with Windows. I rarely use it (few days in several months), and mostly for non-gaming stuff Though, sometimes I use windows to play old games which don't have working multiplayer on wine.

- Do you see yourself first as a gamer, then as a Linux user?
No, I am a Game/Mod developer (though, I've shared my work only with small groups of people).
I use Linux because both because I find it technically superior and because I feel more comfortable using it. And I also appreciate the Free Software.

- As someone with a tendency towards a specific genre, do you feel the current Linux suggestion doesn't cater to your gaming needs?
Most of games I care about are playable on Linux (or are in process of being ported). But I wish there were more Free & Open Source remakes of old games (such as OpenMW, OpenRA, FreeRA, OpenTTD and others which I don't know about yet).
EKRboi 13 Mar 2015
ummm....![](https://picup.it/media/pictures/150221-201554.jpg)

Yea, F3 and NV and light mods worked and even run pretty well in wine. Try to add a bunch of mods, especially texture mods and it turns into a crash fest. From what I've gathered wine has some memory limitations (like 3 or 4gb) and just segfaults when you hit that limitation. I like to play Tale of Two Wastelands (Fallout3+NV combined into one awesome experience) and even with minimal graphic mods on top of it wine craps out unfortunately.

When I tried it I tried to find a way around it but everything I ran across pretty much just said it is what it is. 64bit wine didn't make a difference either, it would crash at the same amount of memory allocation as 32bit.

If anyone knows a way around this PLEASE inform me, like NOW!
mao_dze_dun 13 Mar 2015
Since you guys picked up the mod topic I'm up the ante by discussing shader injectors like SweetFX and ReShade (which technically includes SweetFX) as well as tools such as Radeon Pro. SweetFX is a really awesome tool(set?) to make games look often much better or at least change the entire graphical feel of the game. Heck I made myself a SweetFX for Hand of Fate because I did not care for the bleak colors and low contrast of the vanilla game. And the thing I mostly love and am completely addicted to is SMAA injection, be it via RadeonPro or SweetFX.
Why, I just tried Torchlight II in Linux - it's alright. Ran acceptable even on my AMD gpu but the game has pretty much the same graphical problems like Hand of Fate - washed out colors, bad contrast, lighting's not vibrant enough and the thing that bother's me the most - it's aliased (same goes for Hand of Fate). How do I fix that in Windows - download a SweetFX preset I like, install it, launch the game and activate SMAA through RadeonPro - all in less than 3 minutes. It's definitely something I'd like to see in Linux.
Not going to talk about proper mods - people have already pointed out that using big ones in Fallout, for example, is practically impossible through Wine. And Nexus Mod Manager sure rules them all.
crt0mega 14 Mar 2015
Try to add a bunch of mods, especially texture mods and it turns into a crash fest.
mmh, could you provide some links? maybe i'm gonna try them ^^
From what I've gathered wine has some memory limitations (like 3 or 4gb) and just segfaults when you hit that limitation. (...)

When I tried it I tried to find a way around it but everything I ran across pretty much just said it is what it is. 64bit wine didn't make a difference either, it would crash at the same amount of memory allocation as 32bit.
running f3/fnv with 64bit wine doesn't make their ol' 32bit binaries "run as" 64bit binaries...
If anyone knows a way around this PLEASE inform me, like NOW!
i can't promise anything but i'll try it ;)
How do I fix that in Windows - download a SweetFX preset I like, install it, launch the game and activate SMAA through RadeonPro - all in less than 3 minutes. It's definitely something I'd like to see in Linux.
Umm. If you're using mesa with gallium3d it's quite easy without installing anything.
export pp_jimenezmlaa=8
or use ~/.drirc
no need to download or install anything..
davidjosepha 14 Mar 2015
I technically dual boot, although I can't remember the last time I booted into Windows. Might be over a year, now. My Windows and Linux installs are on different SSDs, so at any moment, I might just clear off the Windows SSD and use it for something else. I keep it around, mainly, because I don't have any use for the SSD, so it's probably more work to not have Windows than to keep it around. Plus, there are still a few games I wish I could play, and I like to have the option available, even if I don't use it. Deus Ex: HR is still one of my favorite games, and I could see myself going back and playing it again sometime.
EKRboi 14 Mar 2015
Try to add a bunch of mods, especially texture mods and it turns into a crash fest.
mmh, could you provide some links? maybe i'm gonna try them ^^
From what I've gathered wine has some memory limitations (like 3 or 4gb) and just segfaults when you hit that limitation. (...)

When I tried it I tried to find a way around it but everything I ran across pretty much just said it is what it is. 64bit wine didn't make a difference either, it would crash at the same amount of memory allocation as 32bit.
running f3/fnv with 64bit wine doesn't make their ol' 32bit binaries "run as" 64bit binaries...
If anyone knows a way around this PLEASE inform me, like NOW!
i can't promise anything but i'll try it ;)
How do I fix that in Windows - download a SweetFX preset I like, install it, launch the game and activate SMAA through RadeonPro - all in less than 3 minutes. It's definitely something I'd like to see in Linux.
Umm. If you're using mesa with gallium3d it's quite easy without installing anything.
export pp_jimenezmlaa=8
or use ~/.drirc
no need to download or install anything..

you are correct about the 32bit and mods not making the old 32bit binaries ok with more ram but there is the 4gb+ mod for windows and it certainly allows breaking the 4gb barrier in windows. It does not using wine though. I copied my whole TTW (tale of two wastelands) folder from win (where it works fantastic) to linux/wine and it craps out. I'm drinking with some friends this evening, but I will certainly get you a list or a screenshot of the list of mods that I use in the morning. You also have to remember that I play @ 5760x1080 which does stress things quite a bit more. Vanilla F3 or NV @ 5760x1080 does play in wine just fine though.
mao_dze_dun 14 Mar 2015
[quote=crt0mega]
How do I fix that in Windows - download a SweetFX preset I like, install it, launch the game and activate SMAA through RadeonPro - all in less than 3 minutes. It's definitely something I'd like to see in Linux.
Umm. If you're using mesa with gallium3d it's quite easy without installing anything.
export pp_jimenezmlaa=8
or use ~/.drirc
no need to download or install anything..

Nah, I'm using Omega - the latest proprietary one. AMD performance is bad enough as it is for me to sacrifice more for the open source driver. Plus, I'm super lazy :). I appreciate the tip, though. It's just beyond my comfort zone. And since we're talking why people continue to dual boot, I'd actually use that as another example. I mean, hand to your heart, how many common users do you think would bother with that. The majority of people find the Windows method complicated and it involves using GUI and a pre-made preset, which often includes SMAA, so you don't even need RadeonPro.
Linux need both the support and the proper tools with easy to understand interface. The terminal should be an advanced tool for the power user, not a crutch for the average one.
sub 14 Mar 2015
I don't care much about the moral side when it comes to games I have to admit. By that I mean if there is a game that I want to play and it is available on Windows only then I'll probably buy it - in particular if there's a sale - and play it. Plain and simple.

But this is not the only reason. Currenty, for instance, I play the Windows version of Borderlands 2 (which runs smooth like butter) because the Linux port by Aspyr performs abysmal on my system.
PopTart 14 Mar 2015
Long time lurker here - thought I'd make an account and chip in :)

First off, I would love nothing other than to see devs target Vulkan and Linux/SteamOS. I'd love to see Vulkan targeted on ALL PC operating systems, effectively relegating D3D to the XBOX1. However...

I use Arch day to day, and as far as that goes, Arch is perfect - I get pretty much the latest version of whatever, and there is a wealth of software to choose from. Coming from Windows, I thought I'd miss Foobar2000, but there's Quod Libet. I can't use Visual Studio, but JetBrains' CLion is shaping up to be great. However... I can't use Native Instruments' software. I can't use Steinberg Cubase. I can't, in all practicality, use Unreal Engine 4's editor (yet). I can't use EVGA Precision X to tweak my nVidia 970 fan profiles and clock settings. Razer doesn't ship a Linux driver for my Mamba mouse, so I can't edit mouse profiles. And then there are issues with the games...

I can't play any Unity 4 game without screen tearing. I use the proprietary nVidia driver, and while I've seen a few complaints about this issue on the net, I haven't encountered a fix. Among the Sleep, Shadowrun Dragonfall, Kentucky Route Zero... as much as I really really want these games to work, I won't play with tearing on Linux when they work properly on Windows (SteamOS works fine, by the way, but if I want to use a desktop, I'm relegated to GNOME 3.4 and the Debian Wheezy repos). Civ V doesn't support anti-aliasing, The Witcher 2 is only now approaching Windows-like performance. I HAVE had good experiences with Aspyr's Borderlands 2 port and Transistor, but by this stage I'm running out of games... Other games I want to play, such as Shadow of Mordor (I know, there's a port on the way), Alien Isolation, Endless Legend, Ori and the Blind Forest, Insurgency, Dragon Age... are all only available on Windows. And so I continue to dual boot. Don't get me wrong - if it's on Linux, I will try it on Linux first (I recently finished Metro Last Light on Linux, for instance), but things still have a way to go before I delete my Windows partition.

Exciting times, though, right?
crt0mega 14 Mar 2015
[quote=mao_dze_dun]
Nah, I'm using Omega - the latest proprietary one. AMD performance is bad enough as it is for me to sacrifice more for the open source driver.
yeah.. i made this comment before i knew you're using a 290x. the last time i heard about "radeonsi" (the open source driver for your card) it was in good shape but still not "good enough" to consider it as an alternative to catalyst.
Plus, I'm super lazy :). I appreciate the tip, though. It's just beyond my comfort zone. And since we're talking why people continue to dual boot, I'd actually use that as another example. I mean, hand to your heart, how many common users do you think would bother with that. The majority of people find the Windows method complicated and it involves using GUI and a pre-made preset, which often includes SMAA, so you don't even need RadeonPro.
Linux need both the support and the proper tools with easy to understand interface. The terminal should be an advanced tool for the power user, not a crutch for the average one.
i agree about the need for GUI tools. i'm a bit lazy, too :P

at least there's "DriConf" which has a nice GUI for configuring the ~/.drirc. the sad thing is that configuring DRI is only one part of optimizing these drivers..
You also have to remember that I play @ 5760x1080 which does stress things quite a bit more. Vanilla F3 or NV @ 5760x1080 does play in wine just fine though.
aww yea! i totally forgot that you are the guy gaming with three displays. i also remembered that you're using the binary nvidia drivers. unfortunately my solution may not work for you; i'm playing fnv/f3 with "gallium nine" and in your case that would only work with nouveau. i don't now how good nouveau currently is.. i still would try these mods sooner or later. no need to hurry, you can send me a pm anytime :D
I'm drinking with some friends this evening
heheh, me too. have fun!
hummer010 14 Mar 2015
I haven't dualbooted since 1998 though I do keep Windows on a Virtual Machine for the 1-2 times a year I have to do something that absolutely requires Windows.

I use Windows at work and Linux at home.

Ditto, although it was 2006 for me when I ditched windows for good. With all of the great Linux games coming out, I'm also working toward quitting wine. I no longer buy games that aren't Linux native. I haven't played a game using wine in months.
tobiushirogeri 14 Mar 2015
I'm a freelance so I work on Linux and game on both, linux and windows. if a game is not available on linux, i'll play on windows.For the last year, I bought only games that where available on SteamOS an plan to drop windows soon, only problem is freaking GTAV and DayZ.

I stream on twitch too, but obs for windows is sadly more advanced than obs multiplatform. If I could make the CLR browser plugin work on obs linux, i'd probably drop the rest.
Kimyrielle 14 Mar 2015
Great article and I absolutely agree with the main point there: Many publishers will see no point in supporting Linux as long as we're willing to switch to another OS to use their products. This attitude is not exactly customer-friendly, but the gaming industry always had a "People want to play games, so they have to adapt to our wishes and not the other way around" attitude, after all. At least in the real life product world, companies usually don't get away with treating their customers like that. But gamers swallow intrusive DRM systems, unfinished and badly tested software and region locks without complaining, so why wouldn't the publishers dictate what OS gamers have to use and save some money in the process?

The flip side of the medal is of course that -not- dual booting will, at least at first, only hurt ourselves, since we will be unable to play the games we want. Only two years ago, not willing to dual boot (or use Wine, which for the purposes of this consideration is the same thing, as dual booting as it takes away pressure on devs to support Linux natively) basically meant not playing any professional-quality games at all. Nowadays, this has of course changed considerably (mainly thanks to Steam) and some of us might be able to get away without ever booting Windows again. But 1000 available games or not, but there are still glaring gaps in Linux gaming. There is a plethora of great strategy games available for Linux I pretty much all bought (yay for Paradox!). But I also love MMORPGs and there is not a single decent one available for Linux. On the other hand, the dozens of platformers and zombie games available for Linux don't do anything for me, because I don't like either platformers or survival horror. Whether or not you still feel any pressure to dual-boot really depends on your taste in gaming, even in 2015.

What I personally do is that I still dual-boot when I have to, but around one year ago I made the decision not to buy any game anymore that doesn't support Linux natively. So right now I get the best of both worlds for myself. I still play the (older) games on Windows that aren't available for Linux, including the MMORPGs. But my money goes to publishers that support the OS I want to use. And that's what counts for me.
Cyba.Cowboy 15 Mar 2015
I dual-booted Ubuntu pretty much since the beginning (of Ubuntu) and dabbled with single-boot Linux-based operating systems prior to this, whilst the family used Microsoft Windows-based operating systems exclusively... Mid-last year though, we changed all of our machines to single-boot Ubuntu and have never looked back.

My reasoning?

Linux-based operating systems almost always perform better, they're notoriously more secure and day-to-day maintenance (defragmentation, disk-scanning, updates and upgrades, virus prevention and eradication, etc...) is almost entirely automatic - seeing as I'm the "geek" in the house, that would normally mean that I'd run from computer-to-computer doing everything once a month... With Linux-based operating systems, most of this work is automated and/or simplified.

My son isn't a big fan of it - "all of the good games are on Windows-based operating systems!" - but that's why he has a Sony PlayStation 4 of his very own, alongside a Sony PlayStation Vita... And SteamOS will change everything.

Although initially against the change, the wife doesn't mind Ubuntu these days, though misses Windows-based operating systems when it comes to things like updating/upgrading our Sony Xperia smartphones (like most Android manufacturers, Sony only allow updates/upgrades to be applied using a Windows-based computer) and my daighter's LeapPad products...

But for that, we're going to buy an ultra-cheap laptop running a Windows-based operating system - most likely the Kogan Atlas X1510 - and use it for the few times we simply can't get around not having a Windows-based operating system.
Orkultus 15 Mar 2015
In 1999, i gave up pc gaming to use Linux. I was wanting to Learn the operating system more than i wanted to play games. I had consoles for my gaming fix anyway(which were way more bad ass than these modern day consoles) <3 Sega. Also PC gaming wasn't all that big back then. So just within the last few years, that we started seeing more games flowing to Linux, it has been like a win win for me. I get to use the OS that i cant live without, and also start playing games on it as well. Even if the games are old, they always feel new to me. That is a good feeling.

So yeah sure, i see new games come out that i would love to play so badly on my PC, but they are windows only...but my loyalty to Linux is way more stronger than wanting to play a game on Windows. Games are great entertainment for a while, but using Linux is much more enjoyable to me.
sub 15 Mar 2015
[quote=Orkultus]In 1999, i gave up pc gaming to use Linux. (...) Also PC gaming wasn't all that big back then./quote]

You must be kidding. :D
Orkultus 15 Mar 2015
[quote=sub]
In 1999, i gave up pc gaming to use Linux. (...) Also PC gaming wasn't all that big back then./quote]

You must be kidding. :D

Haha nope. I have been way involved with Linux for so long. Side by side with Amiga for a long time (Until my system died) R.I.P Amiga. I only learned windows in order to fix it. I get shit from all my friends who want to play games but i cant because i use Linux. I just tell them "hey, all the games i enjoy playing are on Linux, and i wont ever use anything from Microsoft". It's just the way i have been. I like a learning experience more than entertainment. Even today with all these games on Linux, sometimes i just stare at my steam collection, and im like "dont feel like today". This is also goes with me working alot, and always being tired. I know it sucks trying to get more games to come to Linux from stubborn developers, but every time a new one comes out, it's like the most exciting news of the day.
flesk 15 Mar 2015
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Although initially against the change, the wife doesn't mind Ubuntu these days, though misses Windows-based operating systems when it comes to things like updating/upgrading our Sony Xperia smartphones (like most Android manufacturers, Sony only allow updates/upgrades to be applied using a Windows-based computer) and my daighter's LeapPad products...

What kinds of updates? I have a Sony Xperia Z2 but haven't ever had any need for Windows (or a computer at all) to update anything on it.

It's notoriously difficult to convert videos to a format readable on my old Creative Zen with video software on Linux and the software shipped with the unit doesn't work well with Wine. I have pretty much stopped using it now though, so it doesn't bother me, and my Android tablets are more tolerant with file formats.
HonorEDnlK 15 Mar 2015
I still dual boot, but Windows days are counted in my PC. I decided to completely move to ubuntu and discard Windows about 4 months ago and I'm saving all the games that I can play on linux for that time.

Since I don't want to leave windows games unfinished or unplayed, I'm using Windows non-stop to complete those games. My game beating ratio is at an all time high, partly this is helping me control the games that I buy and I'm actually completing more than I'm buying so it's working for me.

When I finish with those games I'll move to linux only.

I'm also very optimistic about the future of linux gaming.

With Vulkan, Unity, Unreal Engine 4, Source 2 and SteamOS I believe developers will change the way games are made so that they're developed with cross-platform compatibility in mind, so porting for linux will be almost cost free compared to porting as we currently know it. Also, Blizzard is participating Vulkan, so maybe we can't expect a current game to be released on linux, but it may happen for a new game they release in the future.

Furthermore, it's worth to mention what happened with DX11 not being supported in Windows XP, now I'm no programmer and this is just my speculation but to me it sounds like they wanted to have people move to Vista, rather than XP not being able to support the API. History may repeat itself with that same scenario happening with Windows 7 not supporting DX12, which would mark the strongest push towards other OS for gamers, hopefully and since there are no restrictions with open source, those who decide to stay in Windows 7 will be able to enjoy Vulkan as an alternative.
mao_dze_dun 15 Mar 2015
In 1999, i gave up pc gaming to use Linux. (...) Also PC gaming wasn't all that big back then.

You must be kidding. :D

Haha nope. I have been way involved with Linux for so long. Side by side with Amiga for a long time (Until my system died) R.I.P Amiga. I only learned windows in order to fix it. I get shit from all my friends who want to play games but i cant because i use Linux. I just tell them "hey, all the games i enjoy playing are on Linux, and i wont ever use anything from Microsoft". It's just the way i have been. I like a learning experience more than entertainment. Even today with all these games on Linux, sometimes i just stare at my steam collection, and im like "dont feel like today". This is also goes with me working alot, and always being tired. I know it sucks trying to get more games to come to Linux from stubborn developers, but every time a new one comes out, it's like the most exciting news of the day.

I think he war referring to your statement that PC gaming wasn't big in '99.
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