A developer has posted on the Gauntlet Steam forums about Gauntlet: Slayer Edition, a free upgrade to Gauntlet. In the same post the developer noted that the SteamOS version has now been cancelled due to limited resources.
You can read the full post here.
So, that's that then, no Gauntlet for the penguin crowd it seems. I've done a quick scan of the Steam forums and it seems some people did pre-purchase the game due to the earlier promise of a Linux port. You might already be familiar with my attitude towards pre-orders and pre-purchases but I'll give you a small reminder: DON'T FRICKING DO IT.
This should be a good example of what could happen if you do not follow the mantra "don't buy before it's out". Hopefully the folks who bought early can get the game refunded. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
QuoteSince all our focus has been needed on this free upgrade for PC, regretfully, the SteamOS version of the game has been cancelled. We hoped to have had that version ready by the time Valve had officially launched it later this year, but together with WBIE, it was decided that our limited resources were better dedicated to making the PC version the best it possibly could be. In our judgment that’s both what you PC players deserve, and what the PS4 version needs for the August release. We’re hoping that instead, you will enjoy the updates coming next month in Gauntlet: Slayer Edition as much as we do ourselves!
You can read the full post here.
So, that's that then, no Gauntlet for the penguin crowd it seems. I've done a quick scan of the Steam forums and it seems some people did pre-purchase the game due to the earlier promise of a Linux port. You might already be familiar with my attitude towards pre-orders and pre-purchases but I'll give you a small reminder: DON'T FRICKING DO IT.
This should be a good example of what could happen if you do not follow the mantra "don't buy before it's out". Hopefully the folks who bought early can get the game refunded. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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This must stop now, why do you make a kickstarter selling to people your game will be supported to any platform and suddenly when you are to release it, you realize that you won't make the goal.
This mean don't say something you can do when you know you cannot do it. If their having problem with just the windows release, focusing all the man power to the windows why you select PC.
This happen the same with big company and small one, just don't say something you will do it.
The funny part of this if I use the same way to my job I will fired in one instant oh I said I will do it but I can't. To me Kickstarter is becoming laugh of supporters.
This mean don't say something you can do when you know you cannot do it. If their having problem with just the windows release, focusing all the man power to the windows why you select PC.
This happen the same with big company and small one, just don't say something you will do it.
The funny part of this if I use the same way to my job I will fired in one instant oh I said I will do it but I can't. To me Kickstarter is becoming laugh of supporters.
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Had some fun with C64 with Gauntlet multiplayer in '80. Had more fun with Gauntlet with NES emulator with my wife's 6 years old girl. She though had great time! With that in mind, I am not troubled this game is not released for Linux. Kids will be happy enough with the NES version while I get my retro fix :D
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Mohandevir Jul 24, 2015
Amd based laptop... Right from the start laptops, more often than not, and because they are often built with custom hardware, have specific drivers made by the builders, even on windows. It's the case with my DELL laptop. You can't downlad a driver from AMD and hope it will work (on windows), you have to use the DELL certified driver. Must be the same with Lenovo. Knowing this, if the cie doesn't support Linux you get exposed to many sorts of weird behaviors.
Take into account the state of Amd gpu drivers, even for a tower... Just take look at the benchmarks... AMD is getting better but still has much to do to be on par with NVidia.
If Lenovo doesn't release their specs, there is not much Linux can do.
Take into account the state of Amd gpu drivers, even for a tower... Just take look at the benchmarks... AMD is getting better but still has much to do to be on par with NVidia.
If Lenovo doesn't release their specs, there is not much Linux can do.
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Mountain Man Jul 25, 2015
Quoting: InokiLooks like I struck a nerve. Exactly as intended. :DQuoting: Mountain ManI have to assume you're a paid shill for Microsoft engaging in the age old practice of astroturfing forums with FUD about Linux.You're exactly the type of moronic zealot I've been talking about, ignorant as fuck.
It's pointless when the community consists of people like you.
People have serious issues but individuals like this take it they have to be involved in some kind of conspiracy against Linux, just because they state the obvious. You sir, are a very poor character.
Seriously, dude, you're on a Linux site talking trash about Linux. What'd you expect?
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oh well... i will just play it in mame... the original still is fun as hell.
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Quoting: KurremkarmerrukI think it's interesting that linux users say "don't preorder!" when really, preorder numbers may have had an impact on their decision to continue with the development.
Oh well, I played it on Windows it was actually pretty awesome (I love local coop) but I do hope that eventually (maybe if SteamOS hits it off) they'll decide to come back to a linux version. They had to have started at least some work on it...
Do you know what happens when you, being a Linux user, buy a game and then go on to play it on Windows? Maybe THAT had an impact on their decision to not continue with the Linux port. And hint: it's not limited to just Gauntlet.
Maybe if people stopped dual-booting and buying Windows games all the damn time, our percentage of market share on the Steam survey results wouldn't be sitting at less than half of what it used to be, and devs wouldn't be pointing at it as a reason to ignore us.
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Inoki, you must have a serious, unfortunate problem with your hardware. I'm running L4D2 on my HD6950 from 2010/2011 and it runs far better on Linux with the open source drivers (!) than it does on windows. Not that it really matters, for in Windows I have 120-150fps and in Linux I have >180-200.
Also, your problem with LibreOffice does sound really strange. I mean, Ubuntu is a very, very broad distribution, many people use it and I've not heard of this being a big problem.
But alas, I'm not using Ubuntu since 2011, so maybe I've missed something.
I'm not saying you're a paid troll or anything the like, just that you're really unfortunate and that problems like that could happen on Windows too and that they probably happen much more often there, because of the shear number of users.
Also, your problem with LibreOffice does sound really strange. I mean, Ubuntu is a very, very broad distribution, many people use it and I've not heard of this being a big problem.
But alas, I'm not using Ubuntu since 2011, so maybe I've missed something.
I'm not saying you're a paid troll or anything the like, just that you're really unfortunate and that problems like that could happen on Windows too and that they probably happen much more often there, because of the shear number of users.
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Quoting: SamsaiQuoting: KurremkarmerrukI think it's interesting that linux users say "don't preorder!" when really, preorder numbers may have had an impact on their decision to continue with the development.The games industry has shown that it is not to be trusted when it comes to pre-orders. Feel free to continue doing that silly thing but don't cry about it when devs don't ship and quality is poor.
Oh well, I played it on Windows it was actually pretty awesome (I love local coop) but I do hope that eventually (maybe if SteamOS hits it off) they'll decide to come back to a linux version. They had to have started at least some work on it...
Agreed, pre-orders are the fucking devil.
Aliens: Colonial Marines anyone? Yes I'm still bitter about that game from my dual-boot days.
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Quoting: Mountain ManLooks like I struck a nerve. Exactly as intended.Your trolling was a success? Have a cookie.
Quoting: Mountain ManSeriously, dude, you're on a Linux site talking trash about Linux. What'd you expect?He most certainly shouldn't expect conspiracy theories and flaming. This isn't a circle-jerk site for zealots and Tux fetishists, hopefully. We're here for news and discussions on Linux gaming, not on how much better we are than the heretics who are too blind to see the glorious superiority of our preferred OS. This might come as a shock, but your attitude is in no way beneficial to "the cause".
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Remember that we were all new once, we all get frustrated with Linux issues, so give people some credit for trying Linux eh?
I've been outspoken about Linux issues a lot in the past, some things to this day still piss me off about it to no end, but I still prefer it over Windows.
I've been outspoken about Linux issues a lot in the past, some things to this day still piss me off about it to no end, but I still prefer it over Windows.
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Mountain Man Jul 25, 2015
Quoting: tuubiI wasn't trolling, dude. I've just seen his type before, those people who show up in Linux discussions and try to give the impression that Linux is a buggy, poorly supported, fragmented OS by describing atypical problems and then acting like it's par for the course for the Linux experience; for instance, he claims that his inability to run LibreOffice is a "perfect example" of what it's like to use Linux and that developers "constantly [release] ... unfinished, unpolished, buggy stuff" for the platform. Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't pull out the old canard about having to use the command line for everything.Quoting: Mountain ManLooks like I struck a nerve. Exactly as intended.Your trolling was a success? Have a cookie.
Quoting: Mountain ManSeriously, dude, you're on a Linux site talking trash about Linux. What'd you expect?He most certainly shouldn't expect conspiracy theories and flaming. This isn't a circle-jerk site for zealots and Tux fetishists, hopefully. We're here for news and discussions on Linux gaming, not on how much better we are than the heretics who are too blind to see the glorious superiority of our preferred OS. This might come as a shock, but your attitude is in no way beneficial to "the cause".
I feel it's important to call people like that out, and when they throw a hissy fit over it, well, I can't help but laugh.
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Quoting: Mountain ManI feel it's important to call people like that out, and when they throw a hissy fit over it, well, I can't help but laugh.Yeah, he was wrong in blaming Linux as a whole for his hardware problems. Baseless bashing gets on my nerves as well. But anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering and so on, young padawan.
It is undeniably true that Linux support for customized laptop hardware as well as other niche components and gadgets is rarely available. Expecially as most (consumer) hardware vendors do not feel any pressure to support Linux themselves. Then again, the same hardware will most likely be unusable in newer Windows versions as well.
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A good example is my wife's work laptop from Dell that came preloaded with an old Ubuntu LTS (12.4 or something, can't remember as I immediately swapped in an SSD with the latest Mint). Everything works great except for the integrated webcam. There are simply no working drivers for recent Linux kernels or Windows versions (according to Google). Apparently it works fine with older linux kernels and Windows 7, and that's it. I'm pretty sure the support will be fixed at some point in the open source Linux driver, but according to Dell there will be no drivers for Win 8 or newer.
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Mountain Man Jul 25, 2015
Quoting: tuubiBut anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering and so on, young padawan.You thought I was angry?
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Quoting: Mountain ManNah, I guess the partial quote didn't quite fit. My point was that we shouldn't be dicks on the internet even if the other person is wrong. You won't get anyone to see the error of their ways by accusing them of stupidity or malice.Quoting: tuubiBut anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering and so on, young padawan.You thought I was angry?
But enough about this. We're so far off topic it's not even funny. And I guess I'm starting to sound like a condescending old git. Sorry about that.
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Quoting: InokiGraphics: Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics]I admit that some games run better on Windows, but it's not a lot of them. Well at least if you have a NVidia card, because if you have AMD then, yes most games run better on Windows.
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]
Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
With this configuration on Windows I can run the game nicely on around 80 FPS, zero lag, full details.
On Linux I have to lower settings below medium and still can't get past 25 FPS on average with terrible lag spikes, frame drops to 1. I even use Xfce for lower resource usage.
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Quoting: liamdaweRemember that we were all new once, we all get frustrated with Linux issues, so give people some credit for trying Linux eh?On topic:
I've been outspoken about Linux issues a lot in the past, some things to this day still piss me off about it to no end, but I still prefer it over Windows.
I am sad about this one, I really love gauntlet.
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To be perfectly fair there are plenty of issues to deal with no matter what platform you're on. Liam, no one was born knowing what a C:\\ drive was and honestly when I have to admin Windows machines I have more headaches than anything I have had in Linux for some time. Sometimes it's preference, other times technical but no OS is perfect and if you really want Linux to work it's best to understand it that it's a monster when it comes to letting you do what you wish but to quote Stan Lee, "With great power comes great responsibility" ... and a greater learning curve. Ohh I got it, it's like the difference between learning DOTA 2 vs mario for the Nintendo. You can do so much more in DOTA but mario was very easy to pick up... not that many people were good at mario either.
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So, was this the devs decision, or Warner's? Because if it was the latter, it throws the ports of Shadows of Mordor and Batman into serious doubt.
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