Founder Of Larian Studios Teases Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition For Linux

Quoting: Mountain ManJust treat Kickstarter and early access as scams, and things will make more sense.

No, that's completely wrong. Crowdfunding is investment, early access is paying for beta testing (which is weird).

Quoting: ShmerlCrowdfunding is investment, early access is paying for beta testing (which is weird).

Not really. Fully agree on the idiocy of early access, but investment implies expected profit for the investor. I'd say crowdfunding is the bastard child of pre-orders and misplaced charity.

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: ShmerlCrowdfunding is investment, early access is paying for beta testing (which is weird).

Not really. Fully agree on the idiocy of early access, but investment implies expected profit for the investor. I'd say crowdfunding is the bastard child of pre-orders and misplaced charity.

No, investment in general implies any kind of interest in the project and willingness to support it based on that interest. Either for profit or other benefit, or any kind of other purpose. In case of crowdfunding, investment implies interest in creating the project which can't be created otherwise (i.e. without such investment). Or to put it shortly, you invest because you like the idea and want to see it come to fruition. Investment also implies risks, which applies to crowdfunding too.


Last edited by Shmerl on 13 August 2015 at 7:40 pm UTC

@Shmerl: Oh all right, you're not wrong. I guess getting burnt on absolutely every single one of my "investments" might have soured me on the concept a bit too much. Still, I doubt I'll ever take part in one of these campaigns again, especially if it's for something as unimportant (gasp!) as entertainment.

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: Mountain ManJust treat Kickstarter and early access as scams, and things will make more sense.

No, that's completely wrong. Crowdfunding is investment, early access is paying for beta testing (which is weird).

Indeed. And, as an investor, you take your chances. It took Adapteva a year plus to get my Parallella to me. I'll still do Crowdfunding- but I never have and never will expect it to be a purchase. It's funding the production of a Linux title (or whatever) with the possibility it might not happen...just like any other investor funding a project.

Having said this, it seems that a good toolchain (more than compiler, etc...) to help them MAKE these games possible is something we need to have happen.

Them using Fedora's either good news, or it's slightly disturbing. Fedora may/may not mesh nicely with the .so's on other targets. My system I used pinned it with a version set of things I knew would run on pretty damn much everything for a looooong time. If they're doing similar tricks however they're accomplishing it...it's a win. If they're building on Fedora directly...

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: ShmerlCrowdfunding is investment, early access is paying for beta testing (which is weird).

Not really. Fully agree on the idiocy of early access, but investment implies expected profit for the investor. I'd say crowdfunding is the bastard child of pre-orders and misplaced charity.

Implies expected, yes. Implies you're going to GET it? If you believe THAT, I've got some nice sea-side property on the Florida coastline...only a bit wet and a few gators on it. Make for good beachfront housing. >;-D

Quoting: sigzThis is a cyrillic interface in there, who is working on that port ?

The port is made by this company (they also made the mac port) :
http://elverils.com/
Here is one of the guy working on the port (from the pseudo "froller" in the terminal) :
https://github.com/froller
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/alex-frolov/16/abb/153

Quoting: GuestIf you backed it, you can vote for day one Linux support for the next Divinity kickstarter pledge rewards.

although i voted, i'm not backing this one at all until i see the Linux version released or at least in beta. I'm still a bit chaffed over the first one.


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Quoting: svartalf

Quoting: tuubiNot really. Fully agree on the idiocy of early access, but investment implies expected profit for the investor. I'd say crowdfunding is the bastard child of pre-orders and misplaced charity.

Implies expected, yes. Implies you're going to GET it? If you believe THAT, I've got some nice sea-side property on the Florida coastline...only a bit wet and a few gators on it. Make for good beachfront housing. >;-D

Uhh... One of us is having trouble with the language if that's how you read my post.

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: Mountain ManJust treat Kickstarter and early access as scams, and things will make more sense.

No, that's completely wrong. Crowdfunding is investment, early access is paying for beta testing (which is weird).

Crowdfunding as it stands is a lot of open promises that may or may not be met. there have been many examples from features not quite making into games as intended to Linux versions that were promised and not released to being released years later.
At least with early access if there is at least a beta version for Linux available then there will most likely be a final stable release at or about the same time other OS versions are released.
I'd rather pay for a beta copy than a possible vaporware any day of the week.


Last edited by neowiz73 on 13 August 2015 at 8:42 pm UTC