After CPU architect Jim Keller left AMD recently, Phil Rogers has now also left and joined up with Nvidia. According to the article on fudzilla his defection to Nvidia was kept under wraps, I wonder why.
Our IRC channel always turns quite colourful whenever AMD is mentioned, as I know they have a lot of fans in the Linux community for their open source work, but it's an important topic. If AMD is indeed a sinking ship then I can imagine both Intel and Nvidia taking advantage of it in a bad way for us (think higher prices). We really don't need a 100% Nvidia monopoly for desktop graphics or Intel for CPU's.
AMD seem to be going through a pretty rough time at the moment, and with their new Zen CPU's not due until 2016 they could be in for a rougher ride yet. I'm looking forward to seeing what Zen brings to the table, as it's about time AMD focused on performance rather than cores. I seriously hope Zen is a game changer for AMD, since Bulldozer didn't turn out all that well as much as it was hyped originally.
It is my firm belief that Intel + Nvidia is currently the way to go if you want the most performance out of games, but maybe Zen will change this up. Who knows, maybe AMD will compete fully with Nvidia when Vulkan is released.
What are your thoughts? Here's to hoping their Zen CPU line will bring them back into a nicer light, and they don't have too many more respected staff leaving. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: XenonQuoting: mr-egg[...]They haven’t made a good CPU line since the Phenom II, when was that ? 2008 - 2009 [...]Are the AMD CPUs really that bad? I use AMD since the Athlon64 series and atm an FX-8150 and can't complain but tbh never benchmarked against a Intel with the same price-tag.
I built my gaming computer using Athlon64 processor I and it was my worst decision ever and at that time I was using windows only and thought that only hipsters and geeks are using Linux. It always hang and overheated and I even did not over-clock it. I gave it to my mother some time ago (with Linux installed) and it started to overheat so much that it started to turn off. My mother was unhappy with that. So I throw out AMD motherbord and put Intel i3 processor with inlet motherboard. Best decision ever my mother now is happy with her computer.
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Ok the boxed fans that came with the CPUs always where bs, loud and inefficient and I had a few overheating issues too. Untill i learned that i must buy a real fan with the CPU and throw the original one away as soon as i'm home xD But since then....
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Jim Keller has always been a whore for the highest bidder. And as for Phil Im sure they can hire someone
new just as talented. These changes may ever allow for some new blood and fresh ideas. I have used
AMD products for years and I haven't regretted any of my purchases. I for one will not support the closed
nature of nvidia and will not support the evil business practices of intel.
new just as talented. These changes may ever allow for some new blood and fresh ideas. I have used
AMD products for years and I haven't regretted any of my purchases. I for one will not support the closed
nature of nvidia and will not support the evil business practices of intel.
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Mountain Man Oct 14, 2015
AMD CPUs are pretty solid. It's just their graphic card drivers that are crap.
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Quoting: subQuoting: EikeEven as Intel and Nvidia user, I'm unhappy to see that development...
If you think AMD is just good enough to get you lower prices on NVidia GPUs and intel CPUs,
then you clearly don't deserve a company that has done so much for documentation and
investments into FOSS drivers.
*prefire*
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Quoting: mr-eggThe situation is almost entirely AMD's own fault.
If you take into account:
- intel barring OEMs from offering Athlon64-based rigs back when the latter slapped the P4 silly, actions made public 10 years after the fact and for which intel got a mere slap on the wrist from the EU
- intel cheating in synthetic benchmarks such as BapCo and Cinebench with seemingly no consequence
- TWIMTBP titles disabling basic graphics options when detecting a Radeon
- nvidia drivers throwing specs out of the window and devs taking a bite because why the hell make an effort and write decent code, $$$ FTW
then it's a PRETTY BIG "almost"...
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Quoting: GuestI can't even understand why they leave AMD.Q: Why do the majority of people leave one job for another job?
A: Money.
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Quoting: footy19Jim Keller has always been a whore for the highest bidder. And as for Phil Im sure they can hire someone
new just as talented. These changes may ever allow for some new blood and fresh ideas. I have used
AMD products for years and I haven't regretted any of my purchases. I for one will not support the closed
nature of nvidia and will not support the evil business practices of intel.
Dunno much about Keller and Rogers, but apart from that, +1.
Slightly related: Performance is increasing too fast anyway, 3-year-old hardware being considered old is a bad situation IMO.
So I would be happy to support a company that does better FOSS work. And I think AMD should get more credit for their APU work. If people (or atleast people that don't do alot of gaming) can buy a single chip to have decent CPU and GPU performance at once, all the better.
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Quoting: footy19Jim Keller has always been a whore for the highest bidder. And as for Phil Im sure they can hire someone
new just as talented. These changes may ever allow for some new blood and fresh ideas. I have used
AMD products for years and I haven't regretted any of my purchases. I for one will not support the closed
nature of nvidia and will not support the evil business practices of intel.
How is finding a better job being a whore? It's called social mobility. I'm pretty sure if somebody came and told you - would you like to make 100k more an year, you'd probably quit your job, as well.
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c0degunner Oct 15, 2015
When the AMD open source drivers are nearly on par with their proprietary stuff, you know something is wrong. Perhaps AMD should finally fully embrace open source and only develop OSS...
I'm sure many talented developers would devote resources to the project.
Imagine an open source Catalyst control centre and drivers. Why does AMD dedicate resources to develop two sets of drivers?? They could then re-focus on improving hardware.
Am I missing something here? And am I being an idiot?
I'm sure many talented developers would devote resources to the project.
Imagine an open source Catalyst control centre and drivers. Why does AMD dedicate resources to develop two sets of drivers?? They could then re-focus on improving hardware.
Am I missing something here? And am I being an idiot?
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