This is starting to be a repeating joke now, of promise after promise and delay after delay. Now with the Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition that was supposed to be a day-1 release for Linux, it has also been delayed.
QuoteDivinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition will be out on PC, PS4 and Xbox One on October 27. Mac and Linux will be right on their tail, arriving at the beginning of December as we finalise the ports. We know it's been quite a wait, but it'll be worth it!
You can see their Kickstarter update here for the full info.
I always try to be positive (despite what some commenters think), but it's hard to remain positive when every time they state something positive, we get slammed down with another delay. I really hope it's worth it when it arrives, and since I didn't personally pay a single penny towards it yet I won't really have any "hard feelings" when it's release, but I imagine whoever backed it just for Linux will not be amused.
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I am so very glad I stopped Kickstarting Linux games a long time ago. Far, far too many broken promises.
Thanks for sending it in, shivoc.
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Like always when there is a topic regarding Divinity: Original Sin - I hope all of us will follow me and won't support Larian Studios because they don't deserve our support. The only scenario to buy this game is super cheap sale with -90% price when the game is released on linux (or maybe I should use "if" instead of "when").
Otherwise your euros can be spend better. If you don't have Pillars of Eternity - buy it. If you don't have Torchlight 2 - buy it. If you don't have Sword Coast Legends - buy it. If you don't have Witcher 2 - buy it. But for the God's sake don't support developer who that takes from people money and after year and a half of Windows release laughs on those who believed in Linux port and does not provide them a product.
Otherwise your euros can be spend better. If you don't have Pillars of Eternity - buy it. If you don't have Torchlight 2 - buy it. If you don't have Sword Coast Legends - buy it. If you don't have Witcher 2 - buy it. But for the God's sake don't support developer who that takes from people money and after year and a half of Windows release laughs on those who believed in Linux port and does not provide them a product.
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EagleDelta Oct 21, 2015
Ok, I'm going to be the voice that no one agrees with, but Larian is a business. No matter what they promised, no matter what we expect, their #1 goal is to make money... nothing else. So from a business perspective, it makes sense that they would focus on the largest markets first for the Enhanced Edition.
Is it kind of shitty? Yes.
Is it the reality of the world we live in? Yes.
Until Mac and Linux rise above a combined ~5 million users on Steam, we will be the last considered for most games, if considered at all. The attitudes that I've seen here, while justified, do nothing but make devs NOT want to develop for Linux. We make ourselves look like just as big of jerks as the developers appear to be many times. We ARE the minority and we HAVE to stop acting like we are entitled to anything. Unless you gave to kickstarter, but even then there are disclaimers specifically stating you are putting forth money at your own risk.... nothing was ever guaranteed.
What we should be doing instead is:
1. Be thankful that, after all the verbal abuse we put Larian through, they are still doing a Linux port.
2. Be thankful they are taking time to make sure it is a good port.
3. Offer to help beta test if they want it... they may not reply, but putting on a good face is important
4. In the Business world perception matters most. No one will take a person or group of people seriously if the perception of said group is bad. It's on US to fix the perception of Linux and Linux users and the comments on Reddit and here actually do nothing but make that perception worse.
People have every right to be upset and disappointed, but while any one of us may think the perceptions, political correctness, PR, etc are all a bunch of BS - it's what a majority of the world runs on, especially in the Business world. No one CARES what any of us think, especially if we are being total asses about it (and it doesn't matter how much in the "right" we are either).
Is it kind of shitty? Yes.
Is it the reality of the world we live in? Yes.
Until Mac and Linux rise above a combined ~5 million users on Steam, we will be the last considered for most games, if considered at all. The attitudes that I've seen here, while justified, do nothing but make devs NOT want to develop for Linux. We make ourselves look like just as big of jerks as the developers appear to be many times. We ARE the minority and we HAVE to stop acting like we are entitled to anything. Unless you gave to kickstarter, but even then there are disclaimers specifically stating you are putting forth money at your own risk.... nothing was ever guaranteed.
What we should be doing instead is:
1. Be thankful that, after all the verbal abuse we put Larian through, they are still doing a Linux port.
2. Be thankful they are taking time to make sure it is a good port.
3. Offer to help beta test if they want it... they may not reply, but putting on a good face is important
4. In the Business world perception matters most. No one will take a person or group of people seriously if the perception of said group is bad. It's on US to fix the perception of Linux and Linux users and the comments on Reddit and here actually do nothing but make that perception worse.
People have every right to be upset and disappointed, but while any one of us may think the perceptions, political correctness, PR, etc are all a bunch of BS - it's what a majority of the world runs on, especially in the Business world. No one CARES what any of us think, especially if we are being total asses about it (and it doesn't matter how much in the "right" we are either).
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They don't deserve our Kickstarter support (and apparently they don't need it), but wait for the port quality before we decide on if they deserve our support. We waited 3-4 years for Civ V, we shouldn't get annoyed if developers take a long time to port. We should be grateful that they port it at all and the port is good quality. However, I am not hopeful for a good quality port at this point.
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This is beyond pathetic.. what's next ?
Let's take a wild guess:
The port get's released, it's filled with bugs and has low performance, even more people will piss on Larian than is the case now. Sales numbers will be terrible.. Larian will anounce not to do linux ports again...sigh
Let's take a wild guess:
The port get's released, it's filled with bugs and has low performance, even more people will piss on Larian than is the case now. Sales numbers will be terrible.. Larian will anounce not to do linux ports again...sigh
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A pity really, I was looking forward to the game next week.
Would have even bought it full price to support the developers.
But now I think I will wait for a sale.
Its a good thing I didnt kickstart D:OS2 after all.
I am very disappointed with Larian.
Would have even bought it full price to support the developers.
But now I think I will wait for a sale.
Its a good thing I didnt kickstart D:OS2 after all.
I am very disappointed with Larian.
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Quoting: EagleDelta1. Be thankful
2. Be thankful
3. Offer to help
> no game for years
You can't have it both ways. If it's a business, act like one, release your product first.
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Quoting: omer666HOHOHOHOHOHOHO.
Come on you can't be serious!
With Shadowrun: Dragonfall, Pillars of Eternity, Sword Coast Legends, Wasteland 2 and many other great RPGs - that have been already able to actually release the damn port they promised - around the corner, do you think you have the legitimacy to even SELL this game to us?
Pathetic.
Larian were hit by lack of Linux developers I suspect. They develop their own engine, and unlike the above which use Unity, they actually write their own graphics code.
As was pointed out already, the fact that they didn't include Linux in their new crowdfunding campaign is very telling.
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Mountain Man Oct 21, 2015
Quoting: wojtek88Like always when there is a topic regarding Divinity: Original Sin - I hope all of us will follow me and won't support Larian Studios because they don't deserve our support. The only scenario to buy this game is super cheap sale with -90% price when the game is released on linux (or maybe I should use "if" instead of "when").You forgot Wasteland 2!
Otherwise your euros can be spend better. If you don't have Pillars of Eternity - buy it. If you don't have Torchlight 2 - buy it. If you don't have Sword Coast Legends - buy it. If you don't have Witcher 2 - buy it. But for the God's sake don't support developer who that takes from people money and after year and a half of Windows release laughs on those who believed in Linux port and does not provide them a product.
For that matter, you can even buy Linux-compatible versions of Bioware classics like Baulders Gate 1 and 2, and Icewind Dale.
There's no need to waste a single penny supporting Larian.
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Mountain Man Oct 21, 2015
Quoting: EagleDeltaNo matter what they promised, no matter what we expect, their #1 goal is to make money... nothing else.Sorry, but that in no way justifies screwing over those who invested money in Kickstarter or otherwise purchased the game based on the promise of a day-one Linux release. In fact, they had a moral obligation to release a Linux version the day the Kickstarter goal was met, so don't pretend they'll be doing us a favor if they actually release it.
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Quoting: Mountain ManFor that matter, you can even buy Linux-compatible versions of Bioware classics like Baulders Gate 1 and 2, and Icewind Dale.
There's no need to waste a single penny supporting Larian.
Wasn't Baldurs gate and Icewind dale interplay classics made buy Black Isles?
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