Saints Row 2 & 3 Are Being Ported By Virtual Programming

I for one welcome these VP ports. They seem to be working really well on Linux despite the fact that they use wrapper technology. A good wrapper port is always better than a bad native port.

multiple games, deep silver, short time, i go that's VP eon ports.

Congrats, you got it first.

I'm a bit disappointed that it isn't Feral or Aspyr, but I do have to admit that they did a (mostly) good job on Bioshock Infinite. I'll give Saints Row 2 a shot since I already own it, but Saints Row 3 is, at most, a maybe right now.

I mean, I'd much rather have native, but a wrapper port is better than nothing, especially for games that don't work via wine, which Saints Row The Third doesn't, to the best of my knowledge (not sure about SR2). In the end, if it works properly and the performance is good, I'll be happy.

I'm OK with this, I can understand they don't want to do native ports for older games, and VPs ports have been getting pretty good.
I'm wondering about Saints Row 4 though. I think it's using (an iteration of?) the same engine, so if they port that natively, wouldn't it be easier to port 3 natively as well once they've put in the work?

I played Bioshock Infinite on Linux... It was the first time I played that game and I did it for the Playfire Reward.. But I fell in love with that game immediatelly... It runs beautifully with all the settings at maximum on Ubuntu 14.04.03 LTS with a Zotac GTX 960 2GB DDR5, a core i5 4690K (no overclock), 2 x4GB ram 1866 HyperX fury and a Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5

Now, I'm playing the DRMFREE version of the original Bioshock (the humble bundle edition) on Ubuntu via WINe 1.7.50.. And it runs very well.. After that, Im gonna play the DLC's of Bioshock infinite..

It was expected something like that to happen. I mean it makes sense if you want to get them in short time and VP has proved to us, at least to me, what can be done with titles like Arma 3.

So here goes the chance than saints row 2 could be improved, since this highly unoptimized game is being ported from someone that wont dip in the code to fix the ps3-cpu-related-issues than this game has, I smell performance issues, so I hope to be wrong.
But all the fast activity shown on steamdb only could mean than they were the ones doing the job. Still, its good to have them on Linux.

I really hope the SR2 port doesn't suck. I can't get the game to run on windows at all. How in the world are they going to make a wrapper version of that game work?

Kind of makes me think VP are doing SR4 and Gat Out of Hell too. It would be weird for someone else to port those games given that they run on the same engine as SR3 and even reuse many of the same assets.

I think this is actually good news. I'm to the point now where I would almost prefer a VP port for a game over another third party company. Obviously, I'd still like a native port if it's done in-house, but VP's performance track record is now better than both Aspyr and Feral (as much as the people on this site probably don't want to hear that). I don't care how a game gets to Linux. I just want it to be the best it can be when it gets here.

wine is a wrapper too and has good performance on a lot of games.

I think VP has a very bad reputation due to the huge problems in The Witcher 2 (I don't know if they still exist or if the game was patched successfully).

They now did proof they are capable of adapting their wrapper to several games which ran with pretty good performance. So we'll have to wait and see how the games will be.

just waiting for it!

I'm a bit disappointed that it isn't Feral or Aspyr, but I do have to admit that they did a (mostly) good job on Bioshock Infinite. I'll give Saints Row 2 a shot since I already own it, but Saints Row 3 is, at most, a maybe right now.

I not. Its good news for me. Why? Look at new Feral games. Performance is poor even on high end PC and not compare with Windows build. Also latest Feral ports even not support AMD GPU (I know, AMD have very bad OpenGL implementation but most others game works well). So what? Look at ARMA 3 port, in many moment Linux performance is better than Windows! And all ports works on Nvidia and also on AMD GPU! I have all VP ports like The WItcher 2, Stronghold 3 Gold, Spec Ops: The Line, Bioshock: Infinite and Dirt: Showdown and all works fine on my AMD GPU. Feral ports? Look Shadow of Mordor not supported, on many new GPU unplayable, on old gpu playable but with very bad FPS. This same is with Company of Heroes 2 and look like same with Alien Isolation. So. This is good news with VP ports, because they doing a great job.


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VP's performance track record is now better than both Aspyr and Feral (as much as the people on this site probably don't want to hear that).

There's not anywhere near a big enough sample size to make that declaration. I've been very happy with what Aspyr and Feral have done to date. I know Shadows of Mordor lagged behind Windows in terms of performance, but I still get great framerates, and the game is rock-solid stable, so I really don't care about comparative benchmarks.

VP's performance track record is now better than both Aspyr and Feral (as much as the people on this site probably don't want to hear that).

There's not anywhere near a big enough sample size to make that declaration. I've been very happy with what Aspyr and Feral have done to date. I know Shadows of Mordor lagged behind Windows in terms of performance, but I still get great framerates, and the game is rock-solid stable, so I really don't care about comparative benchmarks.

So, I need a large sample size to make my "declaration", but you only need your own opinion to make yours? LOL Nice.

You're basically saying you only care about how it makes you feel (benchmarks don't matter), and you don't care about how well it works for anyone else. [sarcasm]You're a real team player.[/sarcasm] If you're satisfied with mediocre gaming performance, have fun with that, but don't hate on other people's excitement about an upcoming game.

I like that companies use the wrapper route to bring down development costs, I think the naysayers do not understand the underlying mechanics of a wine/eos. In the short run it gives a good baseline performance for standard shaders and standardized library calls across a lot of hardware. Is that a baseline that most native linux ports claim to achieve ?

VP's performance track record is now better than both Aspyr and Feral (as much as the people on this site probably don't want to hear that).

There's not anywhere near a big enough sample size to make that declaration. I've been very happy with what Aspyr and Feral have done to date. I know Shadows of Mordor lagged behind Windows in terms of performance, but I still get great framerates, and the game is rock-solid stable, so I really don't care about comparative benchmarks.

So, I need a large sample size to make my "declaration", but you only need your own opinion to make yours? LOL Nice.

You're basically saying you only care about how it makes you feel (benchmarks don't matter), and you don't care about how well it works for anyone else. [sarcasm]You're a real team player.[/sarcasm] If you're satisfied with mediocre gaming performance, have fun with that, but don't hate on other people's excitement about an upcoming game.

What got your panties in a bunch? Sheesh. Seriously, man, if you're going to have a temper tantrum every time one of your statements is challenged then I suggest you stay away from the internet.

You appeared to be making an objective statement of fact which is why I challenged it. I then pointed out, by way of personal anecdote, that there is a difference between benchmarks and real-world gameplay experiences. Yes, I know that Shadow of Mordor technically performs worse in Linux than in Windows, but since it still performs quite well in Linux, what does it really matter?

Now, are you ready to discuss this like an adult? Or are you going to throw another hissy fit?

Cool, thank God for this is not feral.

I am very happy that Saints Row 3 is coming to my favourite OS. It is the only SR game I played and it was only for a very short time (very few hours total, at best) and I liked it. Unfortunately it did not work in WINE so I stopped playing it.

Also, I'm happy that I will finally play a VP ported game :D I have a positive opinion about VP (especially when it comes to older games) but now I will be able to finally try it myself, as I own this game already.
I also have The Witcher 2 but it is one of their early ports... can you guys please tell me if the port was updated and if it is working fine now? I red some pretty bad reviews about it back when the port was released.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, I also have Bioshock Infinite which AFAIK is a VP port (???)... I played it for about half an hour and stopped due to the poor performance, but otherwise the game worked really well. The performance, however, is also partly my hardware's fault ... it's a 3 years laptop and even tho it was very powerful back then, but today, well, not as much... but still not garbage either, not at all.


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