This is quite interesting, it seems Valve are actually doing some more curating on their store now ahead of the SteamOS launch.
A user on reddit posted about ~35 titles having their SteamOS icons vanish. To quote the user:
I've checked myself, and I can see that Ticket to Ride, Anodyne, Lume, WAKFU, Starbound, Evoland, Oniken, StarMade and Defender's Quest: Valley of the Forgotten have had their icons removed. I'm not sure what other games have seen the change, as that's a lot of games to go through to find out.
I spoke with the developer of StarMade who said this:
I spoke with other developers, but some are still looking into why, and some asked me not to mention them here.
It makes perfect sense, you wouldn't want a new SteamOS user to find out a game that advertised SteamOS support needed some outside launcher/installer for something like adobe air, or flash or anything else that needs a fair bit of manual interaction not directly possible in the SteamOS interface.
I guess the minor issue for us here, is that people on desktop Linux can't get these games on Steam now, but they do still show in my library, and are installable. It's probably a good thing though, as it means any game with a SteamOS icon should install on desktop Linux without the hassle of hunting down extra's. I wonder how far this will go though? Will they remove all games that have a launcher that doesn't work in fullscreen? It's going to be interesting to see what happens.
They aren't removing the games from your library, so let's not go ringing alarm bells. However, I did say a long time ago I was worried about SteamOS becoming separated from Linux and people thought Valve wouldn't do it, I thought they wouldn't, but this could be the start for all we know.
A user on reddit posted about ~35 titles having their SteamOS icons vanish. To quote the user:
QuoteMy last three data points are:
25/09/15 - 1521 games
09/10/15 - 1555 games
16/10/15 - 1535 games
I've checked myself, and I can see that Ticket to Ride, Anodyne, Lume, WAKFU, Starbound, Evoland, Oniken, StarMade and Defender's Quest: Valley of the Forgotten have had their icons removed. I'm not sure what other games have seen the change, as that's a lot of games to go through to find out.
I spoke with the developer of StarMade who said this:
@gamingonlinux It is because the game requires Java. When the new launcher comes out this should be resolved!
— StarMade (@star_made) October 17, 2015
I spoke with other developers, but some are still looking into why, and some asked me not to mention them here.
It makes perfect sense, you wouldn't want a new SteamOS user to find out a game that advertised SteamOS support needed some outside launcher/installer for something like adobe air, or flash or anything else that needs a fair bit of manual interaction not directly possible in the SteamOS interface.
I guess the minor issue for us here, is that people on desktop Linux can't get these games on Steam now, but they do still show in my library, and are installable. It's probably a good thing though, as it means any game with a SteamOS icon should install on desktop Linux without the hassle of hunting down extra's. I wonder how far this will go though? Will they remove all games that have a launcher that doesn't work in fullscreen? It's going to be interesting to see what happens.
They aren't removing the games from your library, so let's not go ringing alarm bells. However, I did say a long time ago I was worried about SteamOS becoming separated from Linux and people thought Valve wouldn't do it, I thought they wouldn't, but this could be the start for all we know.
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Thats some kind of crappy...
Steam is polishing its service, not removing games arbitraly...
Even GOG does so!
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Steam is polishing its service, not removing games arbitraly...
Even GOG does so!
Quoting: tmtvlWelp, good thing we still have GOG...
Damnit Valve, you're making it very difficult for me to like you if you act up like this.
Last edited by metro2033fanboy on 16 October 2015 at 10:02 pm UTC
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Wow, Valve is actually doing some type of quality control for once. I think this is a good thing.
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Games from my library with the steam icon removed
- Abyss: The Wraiths of Eden
- Air Conflicts: Pacific Carriers
- Always Sometimes Monsters
- Anodyne
- Delver
- Detective Grimoire
- Doom & Destiny
- Evoland
- Heroes of Steel RPG
- The Inner World
- La-Mulana
- The Last Door - Collector's Edition
- Lume
- Multiwinia
- Poof
- Retro-Pixel Castles
- Reus
- Starbound
- StarMade
- Sword of the Stars: The Pit
- Ticket to Ride
- WAKFU
- Warlock 2: The Exiled (appear movie icon only :) )
- Abyss: The Wraiths of Eden
- Air Conflicts: Pacific Carriers
- Always Sometimes Monsters
- Anodyne
- Delver
- Detective Grimoire
- Doom & Destiny
- Evoland
- Heroes of Steel RPG
- The Inner World
- La-Mulana
- The Last Door - Collector's Edition
- Lume
- Multiwinia
- Poof
- Retro-Pixel Castles
- Reus
- Starbound
- StarMade
- Sword of the Stars: The Pit
- Ticket to Ride
- WAKFU
- Warlock 2: The Exiled (appear movie icon only :) )
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Gone Home still has the SteamOS icon. It never worked in fullscreen for me, camera just get's stuck, I have to go to 900p windowed to run it properly. Just checked, still same problem. That would be the first game I'd remove. Does anyone here have SteamOS installed and can check if it works?
But since the Steam controller can function as a mouse, I don't think it would make the game unplayable? I'll have to try that... But if I buy Starbound now, would it could as a Linux sale?
Quoting: Sn3ipenBut for example Starbound works great on desktop Linux without any configurations. Its just the launcher that requires a mouse that is the only thing i can think of as the reason for its removal.
But since the Steam controller can function as a mouse, I don't think it would make the game unplayable? I'll have to try that... But if I buy Starbound now, would it could as a Linux sale?
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Quoting: ricki42Gone Home still has the SteamOS icon. It never worked in fullscreen for me, camera just get's stuck, I have to go to 900p windowed to run it properly. Just checked, still same problem. That would be the first game I'd remove. Does anyone here have SteamOS installed and can check if it works?Yep, works on SteamOS without issues other than the same crappy performance it always had.
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@dubigrasu Thanks for checking!
These are the only 2 I have from that list.
When starting The Inner World from BPM with Steam controller, it has a warning about not having a controller configuration. Playing it with the controller as mouse & keyboard seems to work fine though (only tried a few minutes). The game doesn't start in fullscreen, but that should be easy to fix - might already be fixed in SteamOS.
La-Mulana doesn't have any warning, but doesn't really work with the steam controller at all, at least I couldn't get it working. I ended up having to kill steam from the command line, because it didn't accept any input at all anymore. Tried changing some settings, same result. I'm still figuring out the controller though, so maybe I broke something. But it definitely didn't just work out of the box.
Turns out I didn't have all the permissions set correctly. Now it works quite nicely in La-Mulana.
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Quoting: JoZ3Games from my library with the steam icon removed
- The Inner World
- La-Mulana
These are the only 2 I have from that list.
When starting The Inner World from BPM with Steam controller, it has a warning about not having a controller configuration. Playing it with the controller as mouse & keyboard seems to work fine though (only tried a few minutes). The game doesn't start in fullscreen, but that should be easy to fix - might already be fixed in SteamOS.
Turns out I didn't have all the permissions set correctly. Now it works quite nicely in La-Mulana.
Last edited by ricki42 on 17 October 2015 at 1:30 am UTC
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Quoting: GuestWell, it doesn't work with SteamOS BPM indeed, but is still working if you switch to desktop mode and start the regular desktop client.Quoting: JoZ3Games from my library with the steam icon removedWTF? This game works perfectly (on Arch Linux at least) and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t use Flash… (which means I’m not sure but I really doubt it because it’s perfect.)
- Abyss: The Wraiths of Eden
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All of the games in the list that I'm familiar with require having external software installed or have general brokenness on Linux. It has nothing to do with launchers. Removing games with launchers would remove the vast majority of Unity games... Would be great if Valve could convince every dev to stop with the useless POS Unity launcher, though.
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I agree with a lot of the concerns about the future of Linux support on steam and also with the idea that SteamOS needs quality control. I think the one thing we need to keep in mind, however, is that the removal is probably temporary.
All those devs have to do is make sure their games are updated to meet Valve's new standards. I'm sure they've been notified. The devs that actually care about Linux and steamos sales will patch their games.
All those devs have to do is make sure their games are updated to meet Valve's new standards. I'm sure they've been notified. The devs that actually care about Linux and steamos sales will patch their games.
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Hihihi The Settlers & Anno Online are on the No-SteamOS Icon list, too.
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