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I'm still not sold on VR, as to me it's still like 3D where lots of people talked it up and it never really went anywhere.
Oculus dropped Linux support some time ago, but it seems they plan to add it back in. The Founder of Oculus said this on twitter:
@janoc200 Linux support is on the roadmap post-launch, Mac support is on the roadmap post-decent Apple hardware release, whenever that is.
— Palmer Luckey (@PalmerLuckey) December 8, 2015I also read a blog post from Time Doctor, who used to write for the now defunct LinuxGames website, and he summed up my thoughts rather well:
QuoteFinally, as an expectant father, I cannot imagine a scenario in the next two years where I will be able to use a completely-detached experience like the Rift while my family needs my attention. This product seems to be only targeted at people who are either totally alone or have no responsibilities in the outside world for extended periods of time. Awareness of the world around you is going to be a big problem with every HMD.
That, plus the price is going to be an issue for lots of people. You need a beefy computer to use it, plus the price of the kit itself and I just don't currently see it really taking off.
I even tried a low-end VR headset recently, and found it to be amusing for a couple minutes, but I just can't see it being £400-500's worth of fun. Add in the taxes and shipping to get it sent to your country of choice, and it adds up to even more. Until the price comes down, I don't see it gaining mass appeal. People are strapped from cash enough trying to upgrade their computers, and considering their hardware it needs to run I don't see all that many people actually affording it.
I will be keeping an eye on it when they come back with Linux support, as I would like to be wrong on it. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: tony1abIf you have boys, you buy VR for them, not for you.
... but not if I got girls? Get out of here. I got two girls and you be damn sure I'll share my gaming gear with them, and let them have their own gear as the time is right for that. The oldest is four and she's already fought her way up to the third world in LEGO Online. She loves that game, collecting figures and collectibles. I've only helped her with a couple of bosses.
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Quoting: BeamboomQuoting: tony1abIf you have boys, you buy VR for them, not for you.
... but not if I got girls? Get out of here. I got two girls and you be damn sure I'll share my gaming gear with them, and let them have their own gear as the time is right for that. The oldest is four and she's already fought her way up to the third world in LEGO Online. She loves that game, collecting figures and collectibles. I've only helped her with a couple of bosses.
Who said boys?
I clearly said boys/girls.
:P
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Quoting: EKRboiMy PC is probably capable (5930k+3x970)
You already spent thousands for a monster PC and you have problems with spending couple hundreds more than expected for a rift? really?
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Quoting: barottoQuoting: EKRboiMy PC is probably capable (5930k+3x970)
You already spent thousands for a monster PC and you have problems with spending couple hundreds more than expected for a rift? really?
My PC was nearly 3K in total. Doesn't mean I want to buy a VR headset which is currently very limited for Linux.
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Quoting: TheBossMy PC was nearly 3K in total. Doesn't mean I want to buy a VR headset which is currently very limited for Linux.
Agreed, I think anyone who visits this site is more waiting on the HTC Vive... Pre, now?
My worry is still this: The HTC Vive Pre will support SteamVR, which supports Linux - so technically, HTC Vive Pre is "all in" on Linux. But the games themselves. It will blow catch-22 donkey chunks if many of the games on Steam that support SteamVR are Windows only games.
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Quoting: TheBossMy PC was nearly 3K in total. Doesn't mean I want to buy a VR headset which is currently very limited for Linux.
I understand, but you don't like VR headsets to begin with.
Quoting: HalifaxAgreed, I think anyone who visits this site is more waiting on the HTC Vive... Pre, now?
I predict the Vive is going to cost even more than the Rift: custom motion controllers, better displays, a front facing camera ...
I'm very interested in the VR technology but not at those prices. Also I have a cheap gaming box so.... let's see what happens in the upcoming years.
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Quoting: barottoQuoting: EKRboiMy PC is probably capable (5930k+3x970)
You already spent thousands for a monster PC and you have problems with spending couple hundreds more than expected for a rift? really?
Yep, really! It was more than I was willing to gamble. There is very little native content for it and no guarantee it wont be a total flop. Plus, I've never tried any of the HMD's.. I may not even like it. So I'll wait to see how VR shapes up in 2016 and I can try one at a store somewhere before buying.
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Quoting: HalifaxQuoting: TheBossI couldn't put a kid to bed, slap on a VR headset and completely erase myself from a partner for an evening. It's weird, it's being isolated.
Well, IMO, that is just crazy talk for a married man. For day to day stuff (not special vaca/trips) I need several hours of self time every night - an occasional movie/dinner night, and a little cuddle time when I finally crawl into bed, I'm good!
But maybe I'm the weird one, I'm married but no kids - and that's the single biggest thing my wife never forgave me for. Sounds unrelated to this thread, but really it is. I started thinking about just how much self time I'd be losing if I knocked her up, and got *very* cold feet to the idea after that. Sure, I'll die old and alone, but I plan to have lots of Holo-Deck time leading up to that sad demise!
Off topic, seen as this article had a strange bias to it .. sorry, not bias but a bit of daddy bragging but I guess thats ok :P
Bringing a child into this world isn't 'autocomplete' anymore like traditionally it was.
It takes all your time ( some people like to mention that they have a lot of their own time when they have kids but I question just how connected to the experience they are ) It costs the best part of £300k / $450,000 (excluding contributing £50k/$80k) college education , Your relationship you had pre-kids changes ( not saying worse BTW, but changes you have things between you ) and of course look at the world today, I mean really, literally look at todays US/Euro news events and you have to decide if its going to be a nice world for them to live in given your personal current situation. Also you never stop being a parent, so nowadays its common for your kids to be around and still using the bank of mum n dad into their 30's ! but its only money..
That as an aside VR is super early adopter. We know the performance deficit on OpenGL and the often broken vsync and frame drops. We know that these things need great sync, great consistency and lots of performance, perhaps even Dual GPU! which doesn't work in Linux ootb.
TheBoss has a point, if your really serious about your family even though escapism is a great thing and much needed with all the pressure of work/family/bills life .. how are you going to hear if there is a problem ? An intruder ? Someone Slipping and hurting themselves ? Your wife shouting for help etc .. perhaps some open back headphones ? But how does it look to the SO/Children when your at home locked away not just in a room but with the VR TV strapped to your face every night ?
Total escapism is something you sacrifice as a parent for a VERY long time. And that's not just in the digital world, its the whole deal.
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