PAYDAY 2 was released without any warning, so I’ve been putting some time into it to see how it runs on Linux.
I must say, I am pretty impressed with the port. I did a two hour livestream and it was extremely stable without a single crash. Not many bigger games are this stable right out the door for us, so I’m damn happy with that.
Gameplay video
Here’s a video of a mission I played offline, this is an entire mission played at 2560x1440 on High settings.
Apologies for any noticable screen tearing, Compiz/Ubuntu really isn’t well setup for it. I have a startup script in place now thanks to Xpander that has helped somewhat. I look forward to seeing if Mir/Wayland help with tearing.
Performance
The performance at 1080p on my 980ti has been really good, very smooth without a hint of sutter. That’s impressed me more than anything. I know I have a great GPU, but plenty of other ports don’t come close in terms of performance to Payday 2 for me.
At 2560x1440 resolution the game runs reasonably well; it bounces between 60 and well over 100 FPS depending on what is going on.
Sadly at 4K resolution the game says it has a high FPS, but I can feel the game being really sluggish, It’s just not playable (not many games are at 4K on Linux, so they aren’t alone).
The game doesn’t have a benchmark mode so I cannot capture exact numbers right now without doing some trickery. I might do so in future, but I wanted to get some thoughts out on it before we tried any benchmarking on it.
Gameplay
I’m surprised at just how much I am enjoying the game. I knew I would somewhat enjoy it since it’s an FPS and all, but I didn’t realise it would be as hilarious as it is. It has many features that I wasn’t aware of and a lot of those are sure to excite many linux gamers.
It has full cross-platform multiplayer, so you can play with your Windows friends, or with random Linux/Windows users that join in your sessions. I had a pretty easy time finding people to play with since it’s still a very popular game. I haven’t seen it drop below 10,000 players online for a while, and thanks to the free play time it has been hitting over 20,000.
The main appeal of the game for me is that it allows you to be on the other side of the fence. Instead of some anti-terrorist organisation, or an army, you are the robbers. It just feels more interesting and exciting to play as the bad guy.
If you’re new I highly suggest playing with friends, or trying it solo for a while. The AI is a little dumb and it will end up being a little bit frustrating for you, so online is a must really. That said, people who have played it for a while tend to rage at you if you mess up even a little bit, as I found out.
The basics of the game are really easy to grasp, as there’s no real difficult mechanics. Cracking open doors is a simple press of a button to get your drill out, for example. You still need to keep an eye on your drills as they will get jammed up, prompting the player to interact with them again. Alternatively, you can forget altogether by finding a hidden card key.
There’s a lot of variation in the missions which will keep me entertained for hours. Some of that variation is thanks to the DLC packs, which add in different scenarios. All of which work on Linux as far as I can tell.
I have shot up a mall doing as much damage as I can, which was great as the police eventually stormed the place and we had to get rescued by helicopter.
We rescued someone from a downed helicopter and took their cocaine to make some money, and we had to keep shouting at the pilot every time he fell over or threw up.
At one point Samsai was driving a forklift with bags of nuclear warheads, while I was casually sat on the back unloading clips at police firing at us. Why they thought it was a good idea to fire at us while we were carrying such explosives—I don’t know.
There was also a time we stormed a meth lab, ended up cooking meth and tried to escape with it.
Yes, all of those are actual missions.
Issues
There was one annoying issue with the game only detecting the max resolution from my 1080p monitor, and loading into a tiny box on my 4K monitor. I managed to solve it by disabling my second monitor, loading it up at 4K on my main monitor and then enabling my second monitor again. Since then it has been fine. The developer responded to my report, so hopefully it will get fixed.
Other people's issues
The developers introduced microtransactions, which isn’t always a bad thing, but people didn’t like it. Mainly due to the developers originally saying the game will never have it, so people felt betrayed. Priorities for developers change, especially when you plan to support your game for far longer than originally planned. I don’t personally care as I don’t feel like it’s pay to win.
I’ve seen bad reviews with things like this “if you are new do not buy it unless you are willing to spend more money on DLC's that will come out over time” (actual quote) which I find odd. Why is it such a bad thing? You’re not forced into DLC, and it again keeps games active way longer than they would have been originally. They are constantly on sale too, so it’s not like it’s expensive.
To sum up, I think it’s a really interesting game to have on Linux, and performance is really good. Great for a bash with your friends, and still reasonably fun with random people who join in.
It’s still free to try for a few days, so you have nothing to lose.
You can find PAYDAY 2 on Steam. It’s currently free to try, and it’s on a mega sale.
I must say, I am pretty impressed with the port. I did a two hour livestream and it was extremely stable without a single crash. Not many bigger games are this stable right out the door for us, so I’m damn happy with that.
Gameplay video
Here’s a video of a mission I played offline, this is an entire mission played at 2560x1440 on High settings.
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Performance
The performance at 1080p on my 980ti has been really good, very smooth without a hint of sutter. That’s impressed me more than anything. I know I have a great GPU, but plenty of other ports don’t come close in terms of performance to Payday 2 for me.
At 2560x1440 resolution the game runs reasonably well; it bounces between 60 and well over 100 FPS depending on what is going on.
Sadly at 4K resolution the game says it has a high FPS, but I can feel the game being really sluggish, It’s just not playable (not many games are at 4K on Linux, so they aren’t alone).
The game doesn’t have a benchmark mode so I cannot capture exact numbers right now without doing some trickery. I might do so in future, but I wanted to get some thoughts out on it before we tried any benchmarking on it.
Gameplay
I’m surprised at just how much I am enjoying the game. I knew I would somewhat enjoy it since it’s an FPS and all, but I didn’t realise it would be as hilarious as it is. It has many features that I wasn’t aware of and a lot of those are sure to excite many linux gamers.
It has full cross-platform multiplayer, so you can play with your Windows friends, or with random Linux/Windows users that join in your sessions. I had a pretty easy time finding people to play with since it’s still a very popular game. I haven’t seen it drop below 10,000 players online for a while, and thanks to the free play time it has been hitting over 20,000.
The main appeal of the game for me is that it allows you to be on the other side of the fence. Instead of some anti-terrorist organisation, or an army, you are the robbers. It just feels more interesting and exciting to play as the bad guy.
If you’re new I highly suggest playing with friends, or trying it solo for a while. The AI is a little dumb and it will end up being a little bit frustrating for you, so online is a must really. That said, people who have played it for a while tend to rage at you if you mess up even a little bit, as I found out.
The basics of the game are really easy to grasp, as there’s no real difficult mechanics. Cracking open doors is a simple press of a button to get your drill out, for example. You still need to keep an eye on your drills as they will get jammed up, prompting the player to interact with them again. Alternatively, you can forget altogether by finding a hidden card key.
There’s a lot of variation in the missions which will keep me entertained for hours. Some of that variation is thanks to the DLC packs, which add in different scenarios. All of which work on Linux as far as I can tell.
I have shot up a mall doing as much damage as I can, which was great as the police eventually stormed the place and we had to get rescued by helicopter.
We rescued someone from a downed helicopter and took their cocaine to make some money, and we had to keep shouting at the pilot every time he fell over or threw up.
At one point Samsai was driving a forklift with bags of nuclear warheads, while I was casually sat on the back unloading clips at police firing at us. Why they thought it was a good idea to fire at us while we were carrying such explosives—I don’t know.
There was also a time we stormed a meth lab, ended up cooking meth and tried to escape with it.
Yes, all of those are actual missions.
Issues
There was one annoying issue with the game only detecting the max resolution from my 1080p monitor, and loading into a tiny box on my 4K monitor. I managed to solve it by disabling my second monitor, loading it up at 4K on my main monitor and then enabling my second monitor again. Since then it has been fine. The developer responded to my report, so hopefully it will get fixed.
Other people's issues
The developers introduced microtransactions, which isn’t always a bad thing, but people didn’t like it. Mainly due to the developers originally saying the game will never have it, so people felt betrayed. Priorities for developers change, especially when you plan to support your game for far longer than originally planned. I don’t personally care as I don’t feel like it’s pay to win.
I’ve seen bad reviews with things like this “if you are new do not buy it unless you are willing to spend more money on DLC's that will come out over time” (actual quote) which I find odd. Why is it such a bad thing? You’re not forced into DLC, and it again keeps games active way longer than they would have been originally. They are constantly on sale too, so it’s not like it’s expensive.
To sum up, I think it’s a really interesting game to have on Linux, and performance is really good. Great for a bash with your friends, and still reasonably fun with random people who join in.
It’s still free to try for a few days, so you have nothing to lose.
You can find PAYDAY 2 on Steam. It’s currently free to try, and it’s on a mega sale.
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Got this. Its an amazing port imo. No tearing vsync issues even with vsync off fully in game performance is really good and smoother than most opengl native ports ( as seems to be the norm ). 760gtx @ 1440p on just about all high settings ( shadows on high rather than very high ) and it hardly drops below 60 and even when it does its not jarring. My CPU is actually an AMD APU so its kind of gimped vs a proper deciated CPU let alone a decent intel so i imagine for most anyone running a 760 or above with an i3 will be fine running it smoothly at 1080p/1440p.
( This was on Gnome fullscreen it runs a bit less fluid on my cinnamon session which is happening on some games for me, so gnome is my goto session for this game cant comment on the compiz thing as im not using it)
If anyone wants to see how bad the game can look, play the PS3 version is like some hideous abomination from yesteryear with a sub 25fps frame rate and its so much worse graphically that it looks and feels like an entirely different game.
Last edited by on 24 March 2016 at 4:01 pm UTC
( This was on Gnome fullscreen it runs a bit less fluid on my cinnamon session which is happening on some games for me, so gnome is my goto session for this game cant comment on the compiz thing as im not using it)
If anyone wants to see how bad the game can look, play the PS3 version is like some hideous abomination from yesteryear with a sub 25fps frame rate and its so much worse graphically that it looks and feels like an entirely different game.
Last edited by on 24 March 2016 at 4:01 pm UTC
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1080p mid-high mixed settings, and runs smooth great port :) (250x)
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GTX 980m binary blob here. Works great. Didn't measure FPS or play with the settings. But at default settings (whatever that is) and 1080p resolution plus vsync it seems to be running at a solid 60fps.
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It's really grabby with the mouse when in windowed mode. It will grab your mouse even when it doesn't have focus, if the pointer passes over any visible area of the window. You've got to be careful to mouse around the window if you alt-tab away from it. It doesn't release the mouse when in menus (and it's drawing a pointer on the screen).
Also, it doesn't play nice with multiple monitors, but some kwin rules straightened that out for me.
Other than that, it's a good port.
Also, it doesn't play nice with multiple monitors, but some kwin rules straightened that out for me.
Other than that, it's a good port.
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why do i get no sound after the intros??!! I have pulseaudio AND alsa installed. if anyone else is having such sound issues, then plz report here http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/14/392184522706214716/
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Heh, Liam, nuclear warheads are not 'explosives' and no fuel tanks either. There is no risk shooting at them. They are not throwing rpgs/explosives at you, are they?
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Thanks for the report! I bought the game (GOTY edition), it's awesome :D
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Hmmm - the game crashes short after I try to log onto an MP mission or after I enter the safehouse. Anyone seen the same issue?
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does the onscreen keyboard with steamOS work for everyone?
each time I focus a chat and press the steam-button on my controller to activate the keyboard, nothing shows up that I type in in the chat input. focus is there for sure, other buttons (mapped to single letters) do work.
each time I focus a chat and press the steam-button on my controller to activate the keyboard, nothing shows up that I type in in the chat input. focus is there for sure, other buttons (mapped to single letters) do work.
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Runs prety well on old hardware too (Intel Dual Core + GTX550Ti). Very good port, I'm having a lot of fun with it. :)
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I hate how it defaults to the "other" monitor. I have a 720p and a 1080p monitor and for some reason, some games just wont start on the big monitor.
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The game is crashing every few minutes for me. I can't even start a game!
My relevant specs are:
CPU: Intel i5-4460
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6970 (using open source radeon driver in Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 stable/jessie amd64)
RAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz (but, dmidecode -t 17 says Speed: 1600 MHz and Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz - if someone knows what this means and why it is the case, please let me know, because if it means that my RAM is running slower than it should, I don't understand why)
USB 2.0 5400 RPM HDD
My relevant specs are:
CPU: Intel i5-4460
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6970 (using open source radeon driver in Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 stable/jessie amd64)
RAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz (but, dmidecode -t 17 says Speed: 1600 MHz and Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz - if someone knows what this means and why it is the case, please let me know, because if it means that my RAM is running slower than it should, I don't understand why)
USB 2.0 5400 RPM HDD
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Quoting: s8as8aRAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz (but, dmidecode -t 17 says Speed: 1600 MHz and Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz - if someone knows what this means and why it is the case, please let me know, because if it means that my RAM is running slower than it should, I don't understand why)Check your uefi/bios setup. Try enabling XMP if it's not already on or set the frequency manually. This seems to be pretty common, even with big brand motherboards and memory.
USB 2.0 5400 RPM HDD
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I'm a little late commenting on this, but I wanted to mention an issue that might affect some users.
Not too long ago, I solved a whole BUNCH of audio problems by getting rid of PulseAudio and using dmix instead. (For a "dirty hack", as so many people call it, it's working a heck of a lot better than PulseAudio was.) The one problem I came across was during the free week of Payday 2 that just ended. Apparently, without PulseAudio, the game just isn't going to give you audio except in the two cut scenes in the intro. I tried and tried and couldn't get it to work and finally someone told me that it was a known issue.
It's a shame, because it did look pretty damn cool and I was all set to buy it, but if I can't get sound working (this being the only game now where I have that trouble), it's a waste. I hope that's eventually fixed soon and that I find out about it.
Not too long ago, I solved a whole BUNCH of audio problems by getting rid of PulseAudio and using dmix instead. (For a "dirty hack", as so many people call it, it's working a heck of a lot better than PulseAudio was.) The one problem I came across was during the free week of Payday 2 that just ended. Apparently, without PulseAudio, the game just isn't going to give you audio except in the two cut scenes in the intro. I tried and tried and couldn't get it to work and finally someone told me that it was a known issue.
It's a shame, because it did look pretty damn cool and I was all set to buy it, but if I can't get sound working (this being the only game now where I have that trouble), it's a waste. I hope that's eventually fixed soon and that I find out about it.
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