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Disclaimer: not our video, but as usual I like to highlight videos that show how performance on SteamOS/Linux compares with Windows.
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Pretty great performance there. It's really pleasing to see that Virtual Programming's eON wrapper technology mature to this state for some.
Sadly the game is quite unplayable for me, as the textures always revert down to Low, and most of the time Low is the only option that appears in the Texture option. It seems I am not alone with this issue either. I sent a message to VP about it, but no word on a fix yet.
The performance was also not too great in this recent version for me, but it does look like I was running it at higher settings than what the benchmark had. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Personal thoughts:
Pretty great performance there. It's really pleasing to see that Virtual Programming's eON wrapper technology mature to this state for some.
Sadly the game is quite unplayable for me, as the textures always revert down to Low, and most of the time Low is the only option that appears in the Texture option. It seems I am not alone with this issue either. I sent a message to VP about it, but no word on a fix yet.
The performance was also not too great in this recent version for me, but it does look like I was running it at higher settings than what the benchmark had. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: melkemindQuoting: PeciskQuoting: Mountain ManNot just AAA titles, we need big players like Blizzard and EA to come aboard. I would especially like to see native Linux builds of Diablo 3, Hearthstone, and Heroes of the Storm. I love what companies like Feral and Aspyr have done, and Valve, of course, but they can't do it all.
Both EA and Activision are very greedy. Don't expect them to join Linux world any time soon.
They're not human beings, despite what some U.S. laws might say. :) Therefore, they can't be greedy. They're emotionless corporations, and the driving factor behind corporations is profit. All it takes is an executive with some foresight willing to take a risk on something like Linux, which won't be immediately profitable. In the absence of someone like that, a corporation is going to stick with whatever makes it money.
As Zelox suggested above, it's going to take a lot of patience and hope before Linux will become a competitive gaming platform. Maybe it never will. We just have to wait and support companies that make an effort to sell games for it, but there's little point in having ill feelings toward those companies that choose not to, including Microsoft, because it's not personal at all.
Your analysis is spot-on, but your conclusion IMO is not. There is absolutely a point to having ill feelings towards those companies. They may not be human, but we are--it's easier to boycott and otherwise avoid, counsel people to avoid and so on if we harbour ill feelings towards them. And if we do enough of that stuff, it will cost them profits. And if it costs them profits, then in a totally non-personal fashion they may in the end do what we want. All because of irrational ill feelings. Indeed, I might even claim that that is the point of ill feelings--dislike, anger, and hatred are the mechanisms humans use to successfully apply tit-for-tat type game theory approaches to conflict.
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GustyGhost Mar 20, 2016
Quoting: ElectricPrismValve is just chipping away at the mountain, the avalanche is coming. I suspect that Steam Machines Winter 2016 and Spring 2017 will be power houses ready for the final console war.
There Steam Machines will enact the final solution. We will be victorious comrades.
So inspiring. Do we having any comic artists that would be willing to depict this metaphor?
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TheRiddick Mar 20, 2016
Provided you stay away from AMD cards, then gaming under Linux is looking VERY good and prosperous.
(I have a 390x and tried ALL driver versions including experimental and its like ripping your eye balls out, crashes all over, then when it works you will end up with only %40-50 of the performance NVIDIA gets for similar/slower cards)
PS. My 390x is in the shop atm under RMA, yep AMD cards melt!
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(I have a 390x and tried ALL driver versions including experimental and its like ripping your eye balls out, crashes all over, then when it works you will end up with only %40-50 of the performance NVIDIA gets for similar/slower cards)
PS. My 390x is in the shop atm under RMA, yep AMD cards melt!
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rustybroomhandle Mar 20, 2016
Quoting: ElectricPrismThere Steam Machines will enact the final solution. We will be victorious comrades.
Can we maybe keep nazi lingo off the comments?
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Well, congrats for eON.
Now, fix the Witcher 2 and Spec Ops. Then I can die in a peace :)
Now, fix the Witcher 2 and Spec Ops. Then I can die in a peace :)
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Wonder how they managed to do that. Also wonder if they can convince Bethesda to let the port Skyrim :).
Btw, on the matter of companies and their willingness to port to Linux - don't forget executives are quite discouraged to take chances. Imagine you're some big wig at Blizzard or EA and you suddenly decide to funnel resources and people to some minor OS. The shareholder and investors will immediately question your actions and let's be honest - besides your vision and good intentions, you'd hardly have the solid numbers they're used to seeing. I'm not saying: "Oh, those poor 6/7 figure executives", but still, corporate politics are just as tough as real life politics, and just as with real politics - we have have a passionate opinion and an idea what we would do, but just a handful of us really would have what it takes to make that idea happen, given we get into a position of power to make it so. I hope that makes sense :)
Btw, on the matter of companies and their willingness to port to Linux - don't forget executives are quite discouraged to take chances. Imagine you're some big wig at Blizzard or EA and you suddenly decide to funnel resources and people to some minor OS. The shareholder and investors will immediately question your actions and let's be honest - besides your vision and good intentions, you'd hardly have the solid numbers they're used to seeing. I'm not saying: "Oh, those poor 6/7 figure executives", but still, corporate politics are just as tough as real life politics, and just as with real politics - we have have a passionate opinion and an idea what we would do, but just a handful of us really would have what it takes to make that idea happen, given we get into a position of power to make it so. I hope that makes sense :)
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You should really check out this page from the forums at phoronix. The nvidia driver isn't faitful to the specs, and code that works with the nvidia driver doesn't necessarily work with the amd driver. So the reason why it crashes can be the result of bad code.
The driver driver should not accept apps which use combinations of API calls and/or shader code which do not comply with the OpenGL spec. One example on that page is Unigine's engine.
Quoting: TheRiddickProvided you stay away from AMD cards, then gaming under Linux is looking VERY good and prosperous.
(I have a 390x and tried ALL driver versions including experimental and its like ripping your eye balls out, crashes all over, then when it works you will end up with only %40-50 of the performance NVIDIA gets for similar/slower cards)
PS. My 390x is in the shop atm under RMA, yep AMD cards melt!
You should really check out this page from the forums at phoronix. The nvidia driver isn't faitful to the specs, and code that works with the nvidia driver doesn't necessarily work with the amd driver. So the reason why it crashes can be the result of bad code.
The driver driver should not accept apps which use combinations of API calls and/or shader code which do not comply with the OpenGL spec. One example on that page is Unigine's engine.
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TheRiddick Mar 20, 2016
I wasn't referring to COH2, but in general. SOME things work, most don't. I really don't care if there is a error in AMD's code, that's not my fault.
And while you pick at NVIDIA, they have a working driver that delivers 200-300% more performance over AMD, so I'll take dishonest code over broken and terrible code any day!
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And while you pick at NVIDIA, they have a working driver that delivers 200-300% more performance over AMD, so I'll take dishonest code over broken and terrible code any day!
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Quoting: rustybroomhandleQuoting: ElectricPrismThere Steam Machines will enact the final solution. We will be victorious comrades.
Can we maybe keep nazi lingo off the comments?
I agree,
Not to be pedantic but fascism in general enacts final solution's it wasn't just the 'nazi's'. Forms of fascism are ever present in modern life and growing, by focusing all your thoughts in terms enacted by a single group over 80 years ago you miss the very same things happening today in your present situation.
Just for clarity. And yes i was being a bit pedantic :P
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Quoting: mr-eggQuoting: rustybroomhandleCan we maybe keep nazi lingo off the comments?
Forms of fascism are ever present in modern life and growing, by focusing all your thoughts in terms enacted by a single group over 80 years ago you miss the very same things happening today in your present situation.
First they elected Trump, and I did nothing. then they built the wall, and I did nothing ...
Notwithstanding that, let's keep politics out of this forum?
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