Topware Interactive are continuing their promise of putting their older titles on Linux and Two Worlds Epic Edition is now available on Steam. It uses Wine, but that's not as bad as you may think.
From the release notes:
QuoteThe port is based on Wine with CSMT and PhysX hardware support patches enabled.
They also removed the more restrictive DRM it had. It has been replaced by what they call "DLM V2":
QuoteThird party Serial Codes are only required to access the Multiplayer Server and create an account. Activation is optional and grants live time support and updates, restore of the game in case it is lost and change of the platform or content provider.
A step in the right direction, I think that alone is worthy of a little praise.
As for the use of Wine: It's an amazing bit of software, and while I shunned it in the past I decided to look past my own self-righteousness about it and learnt to appreciate it all over again. I think it's a cracking tool for developers to bring older titles over to Linux where performance and stability are good. It also means you are essentially buying a Linux game, and it counts as a Linux sale for future reference.
With that said, the Wine port does seem buggy for me. My first launch didn't work, as I could hear the game but not actually bring up the game window.
After that I was able to launch the game, but changing resolution seems to make it crash. I refuse to play it at 1024x768, but any attempt to change it results in the game minimising and I can't seem to bring it back.
I thought that it was due to me using two monitors, so I disabled one and it still has the same issue.
Overall, not impressed with this one.
It also has a massive discount:
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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On 1.09? Okay, I would be stupid not buying it ... even if I could run it with one of my patched wines myself.
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DamonLinuxPL 27 May 2016
I trying it in open beta and open beta perform bad... but after Reality Pump developers change WINE stable to WINE experimantal with CSMT it work well for me with AMD GPU and fglrx driver.
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I trying it in open beta and open beta perform bad... but after Reality Pump developers change WINE stable to WINE experimantal with CSMT it work well for me with AMD GPU and fglrx driver.
Yea, no idea why the CSMT patches still don't make it in, almost everything runs better with it. Same with the PhysX patches...
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OLucasZanella 27 May 2016
Had seen the discount a few days ago, but didn't buy because wasn't officially on Linux, therefore my buy wouldn't count as a Linux sale. Oh, excuse me, it just finished downloading. It will be a good weekend!
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PublicNuisance 27 May 2016
I was never a huge fan of Two Worlds but for $1.20 CAD it's worth supporting.
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slaapliedje 27 May 2016
I only tried the first one a long time ago and the game mechanic of being resurrected at a shrine that you hadn't discovered yet completely killed it for me. I would die in a fight I couldn't handle, and then transport further away from town into a deadlier area? It was terrible.
My younger brother played the second one and he said it did the same thing. This sounds like they heard it worked under Wine and figured they would resell it. Meh, cheap/pretty game for is. I did read they had fixed a lot of the complaints at least. Not sure where I read that at.
My younger brother played the second one and he said it did the same thing. This sounds like they heard it worked under Wine and figured they would resell it. Meh, cheap/pretty game for is. I did read they had fixed a lot of the complaints at least. Not sure where I read that at.
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Segata Sanshiro 28 May 2016
I was literally about to purchase this when I saw there was no controller support. An RPG is something I like to sink a lot of time into if it's good and just don't see myself doing that hunched over a desk, shame :(.
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Hi Liam,
Like you, I had some trouble with screen resolution. I had to revert back to Nvidia 364.19 driver since the latest beta driver 367.18 seems bugged with xrandr, the main tool for changing display resolution.
Furthermore, their standalone wine is configured to use fullscreen instead of a virtual desktop, that brings some weird bug with driver. I managed to get rid of this, thanks to their RunWinetricks script that sets up automatically all the custom environment variables.
Launch this command line inside "Two Worlds - Epic Edition" directory
That will set up a 1024x768 virtual desktop, and then you will be able to change resolution in game to suit your need.
@ Segata Sanshiro
It works great with Steam Controller.
Last edited by Nel on 28 May 2016 at 1:19 am UTC
Like you, I had some trouble with screen resolution. I had to revert back to Nvidia 364.19 driver since the latest beta driver 367.18 seems bugged with xrandr, the main tool for changing display resolution.
Furthermore, their standalone wine is configured to use fullscreen instead of a virtual desktop, that brings some weird bug with driver. I managed to get rid of this, thanks to their RunWinetricks script that sets up automatically all the custom environment variables.
Launch this command line inside "Two Worlds - Epic Edition" directory
./RunWinetricks vd=1024x768That will set up a 1024x768 virtual desktop, and then you will be able to change resolution in game to suit your need.
@ Segata Sanshiro
It works great with Steam Controller.
Last edited by Nel on 28 May 2016 at 1:19 am UTC
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Just bought collection now on steam, pretty cheap. Already own number 2 so hopefully they do something with that on linux.
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Kimyrielle 28 May 2016
For that price it's a sure buy, if only to support the idea of putting older games to Linux. I don't care how they get it to run, as long as it just...runs. Which is normally the reason why I am avoiding Wine like the plague as really nothing just "runs" with Wine, but if the prepackage it in a way for me that it feels like a native game, that's ok in my book.
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I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...
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We have to give credit to the developer that it was very responsive to the requests of the users during the beta period: we asked for CSMT and we got it, no DRM, etc. and we got it. Was a very right way to doing things.
I played the game for 34 hours without a problem (some crashes, but it was crashing also on Windows), then I got bored, because it is not a fantastic game. But there aren't similar games right now on Linux, so one more is ok.
The sequel, Two Worlds II, works also very well in WINE + CSMT, so I expect they'll do the same sort of port, which is IMHO a good thing if the results are so good.
Why games are so cheap? They are old games, the studio who developed them died, there aren't costs to support, seems so natural to me to sold them cheap.
I played the game for 34 hours without a problem (some crashes, but it was crashing also on Windows), then I got bored, because it is not a fantastic game. But there aren't similar games right now on Linux, so one more is ok.
The sequel, Two Worlds II, works also very well in WINE + CSMT, so I expect they'll do the same sort of port, which is IMHO a good thing if the results are so good.
Why games are so cheap? They are old games, the studio who developed them died, there aren't costs to support, seems so natural to me to sold them cheap.
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I guess people don't remember this:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/two-worlds-ii-to-get-major-engine-upgrade-new-dlc-and-steamos-linux-support.6893
Two Worlds 2 will be native.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/two-worlds-ii-to-get-major-engine-upgrade-new-dlc-and-steamos-linux-support.6893
Two Worlds 2 will be native.
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1mHfoksd1Z 28 May 2016
Wine is just fine for older games, as long as the performance is ok and the game is playable. I hope this isn't just a release-and-abandon game and that they will support it for a while, solving game-breaking bugs like this
There's also the side effect that the more older games use Wine, the better Wine itself becomes :D
Last edited by 1mHfoksd1Z on 28 May 2016 at 8:46 am UTC
There's also the side effect that the more older games use Wine, the better Wine itself becomes :D
Last edited by 1mHfoksd1Z on 28 May 2016 at 8:46 am UTC
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Avehicle7887 28 May 2016
I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...
I doubt that will happen. This isn't the first time Topware releases a Wine-Wrapped game for Linux on Steam, of which none have appeared on GOG. Most likely the reason for this is that they're relying on Steam Runtime for them.
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i haven't graphics problems:
1)max resolution is 1024x768
2) fullscreen mode not work, if i set fullscreen, game reamins windowed
3) performance problem with ubuntu 16.04 and AMDGPU driver (A10 8700p with radeon r6 carrizo)
1)max resolution is 1024x768
2) fullscreen mode not work, if i set fullscreen, game reamins windowed
3) performance problem with ubuntu 16.04 and AMDGPU driver (A10 8700p with radeon r6 carrizo)
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Tested the beta. Ran just fine on Intel Skylake Mesa drivers.
It's a terrible game, but it runs well.
Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.
It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.
Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.
Last edited by TheGZeus on 28 May 2016 at 11:43 am UTC
It's a terrible game, but it runs well.
Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.
It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.
Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.
Last edited by TheGZeus on 28 May 2016 at 11:43 am UTC
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Tested the beta. Ran just fine on Intel Skylake Mesa drivers.
It's a terrible game, but it runs well.
Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.
It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.
Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.
Well, I disagree here.
I got this game reluctantly because of the bad reviews and expected this terrible experience as you say and well, I was pleasantly surprised.
It is definitely not a masterpiece or something I would recommend without hesitation, but terrible it is not. I'm having quite a fun with it so your experience (including widescreen issue) doesn't quite match mine.
I understand that you and many others don't like the game, but that doesn't make it a bad game for everyone else.
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I am fairly skeptical when it comes to "Wine ports", but for a euro I decided to give it a shot. Performance on NVIDIA Quadro K1100M is around 30 FPS at 1980x1080, which is playable, but not great by any stretch for a game from 2009. So far I have not noticed any problems that would indicate that it is not a native port. Though Wine developers deserve more credit for that than anybody else.
Regarding the game itself, the voice acting is hilariously bad. Everybody sound like robots. Especially your own character. "I do not have sufficient time. Resistance is futile." Yeah, I see why they would not want to invest in a proper native port.
Last edited by Linas on 28 May 2016 at 5:22 pm UTC
Regarding the game itself, the voice acting is hilariously bad. Everybody sound like robots. Especially your own character. "I do not have sufficient time. Resistance is futile." Yeah, I see why they would not want to invest in a proper native port.
Last edited by Linas on 28 May 2016 at 5:22 pm UTC
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I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...
I doubt that will happen. This isn't the first time Topware releases a Wine-Wrapped game for Linux on Steam, of which none have appeared on GOG. Most likely the reason for this is that they're relying on Steam Runtime for them.
Which they can use on GOG just fine: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/blob/master/COPYING
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