Topware Interactive are continuing their promise of putting their older titles on Linux and Two Worlds Epic Edition is now available on Steam. It uses Wine, but that's not as bad as you may think.
From the release notes:
QuoteThe port is based on Wine with CSMT and PhysX hardware support patches enabled.
They also removed the more restrictive DRM it had. It has been replaced by what they call "DLM V2":
QuoteThird party Serial Codes are only required to access the Multiplayer Server and create an account. Activation is optional and grants live time support and updates, restore of the game in case it is lost and change of the platform or content provider.
A step in the right direction, I think that alone is worthy of a little praise.
As for the use of Wine: It's an amazing bit of software, and while I shunned it in the past I decided to look past my own self-righteousness about it and learnt to appreciate it all over again. I think it's a cracking tool for developers to bring older titles over to Linux where performance and stability are good. It also means you are essentially buying a Linux game, and it counts as a Linux sale for future reference.
With that said, the Wine port does seem buggy for me. My first launch didn't work, as I could hear the game but not actually bring up the game window.
After that I was able to launch the game, but changing resolution seems to make it crash. I refuse to play it at 1024x768, but any attempt to change it results in the game minimising and I can't seem to bring it back.
I thought that it was due to me using two monitors, so I disabled one and it still has the same issue.
Overall, not impressed with this one.
It also has a massive discount:
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...
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We have to give credit to the developer that it was very responsive to the requests of the users during the beta period: we asked for CSMT and we got it, no DRM, etc. and we got it. Was a very right way to doing things.
I played the game for 34 hours without a problem (some crashes, but it was crashing also on Windows), then I got bored, because it is not a fantastic game. But there aren't similar games right now on Linux, so one more is ok.
The sequel, Two Worlds II, works also very well in WINE + CSMT, so I expect they'll do the same sort of port, which is IMHO a good thing if the results are so good.
Why games are so cheap? They are old games, the studio who developed them died, there aren't costs to support, seems so natural to me to sold them cheap.
I played the game for 34 hours without a problem (some crashes, but it was crashing also on Windows), then I got bored, because it is not a fantastic game. But there aren't similar games right now on Linux, so one more is ok.
The sequel, Two Worlds II, works also very well in WINE + CSMT, so I expect they'll do the same sort of port, which is IMHO a good thing if the results are so good.
Why games are so cheap? They are old games, the studio who developed them died, there aren't costs to support, seems so natural to me to sold them cheap.
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I guess people don't remember this:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/two-worlds-ii-to-get-major-engine-upgrade-new-dlc-and-steamos-linux-support.6893
Two Worlds 2 will be native.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/two-worlds-ii-to-get-major-engine-upgrade-new-dlc-and-steamos-linux-support.6893
Two Worlds 2 will be native.
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1mHfoksd1Z May 28, 2016
Wine is just fine for older games, as long as the performance is ok and the game is playable. I hope this isn't just a release-and-abandon game and that they will support it for a while, solving game-breaking bugs like this
There's also the side effect that the more older games use Wine, the better Wine itself becomes :D
Last edited by 1mHfoksd1Z on 28 May 2016 at 8:46 am UTC
There's also the side effect that the more older games use Wine, the better Wine itself becomes :D
Last edited by 1mHfoksd1Z on 28 May 2016 at 8:46 am UTC
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Avehicle7887 May 28, 2016
Quoting: hummer010I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...
I doubt that will happen. This isn't the first time Topware releases a Wine-Wrapped game for Linux on Steam, of which none have appeared on GOG. Most likely the reason for this is that they're relying on Steam Runtime for them.
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i haven't graphics problems:
1)max resolution is 1024x768
2) fullscreen mode not work, if i set fullscreen, game reamins windowed
3) performance problem with ubuntu 16.04 and AMDGPU driver (A10 8700p with radeon r6 carrizo)
1)max resolution is 1024x768
2) fullscreen mode not work, if i set fullscreen, game reamins windowed
3) performance problem with ubuntu 16.04 and AMDGPU driver (A10 8700p with radeon r6 carrizo)
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Tested the beta. Ran just fine on Intel Skylake Mesa drivers.
It's a terrible game, but it runs well.
Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.
It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.
Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.
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It's a terrible game, but it runs well.
Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.
It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.
Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.
Last edited by TheGZeus on 28 May 2016 at 11:43 am UTC
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Quoting: TheGZeusTested the beta. Ran just fine on Intel Skylake Mesa drivers.
It's a terrible game, but it runs well.
Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.
It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.
Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.
Well, I disagree here.
I got this game reluctantly because of the bad reviews and expected this terrible experience as you say and well, I was pleasantly surprised.
It is definitely not a masterpiece or something I would recommend without hesitation, but terrible it is not. I'm having quite a fun with it so your experience (including widescreen issue) doesn't quite match mine.
I understand that you and many others don't like the game, but that doesn't make it a bad game for everyone else.
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I am fairly skeptical when it comes to "Wine ports", but for a euro I decided to give it a shot. Performance on NVIDIA Quadro K1100M is around 30 FPS at 1980x1080, which is playable, but not great by any stretch for a game from 2009. So far I have not noticed any problems that would indicate that it is not a native port. Though Wine developers deserve more credit for that than anybody else.
Regarding the game itself, the voice acting is hilariously bad. Everybody sound like robots. Especially your own character. "I do not have sufficient time. Resistance is futile." Yeah, I see why they would not want to invest in a proper native port.
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Regarding the game itself, the voice acting is hilariously bad. Everybody sound like robots. Especially your own character. "I do not have sufficient time. Resistance is futile." Yeah, I see why they would not want to invest in a proper native port.
Last edited by Linas on 28 May 2016 at 5:22 pm UTC
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Quoting: Avehicle7887Quoting: hummer010I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...
I doubt that will happen. This isn't the first time Topware releases a Wine-Wrapped game for Linux on Steam, of which none have appeared on GOG. Most likely the reason for this is that they're relying on Steam Runtime for them.
Which they can use on GOG just fine: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/blob/master/COPYING
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