You may remember the article I wrote recently about asking you not to use G2A, well it appears G2A are now taking some first steps towards actually supporting developers.
Eurogamer is reporting that G2A will offer developers who sign up 10% of the sales of keys on their store. It's certainly better than nothing, but it's quite a low margin for developers. Considering the amount of reported problems with keys coming from stolen credit cards, it really is quite low.
They will also be opening up a database of keys for developers to look through, so it can help developers track down where the keys are coming from. This is probably going to be very useful, as developers can then see exactly what is going on.
Small steps, but steps nevertheless. It does prove to me that G2A know they have problems with their store, so I still won't ever buy from G2A. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Eurogamer is reporting that G2A will offer developers who sign up 10% of the sales of keys on their store. It's certainly better than nothing, but it's quite a low margin for developers. Considering the amount of reported problems with keys coming from stolen credit cards, it really is quite low.
They will also be opening up a database of keys for developers to look through, so it can help developers track down where the keys are coming from. This is probably going to be very useful, as developers can then see exactly what is going on.
Small steps, but steps nevertheless. It does prove to me that G2A know they have problems with their store, so I still won't ever buy from G2A. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: badberIf G2A will become more cooperative and allows the publishers/developers to check the keys and goes even further in the future, it'll be OK.If they do that, they go out of business. The majority of keys for sale are from stolen credit cards and the majority of the remainder were originally sold with a "not for resale" clause in the purchasing agreement.
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Quoting: burzmaliQuoting: badberIf G2A will become more cooperative and allows the publishers/developers to check the keys and goes even further in the future, it'll be OK.If they do that, they go out of business. The majority of keys for sale are from stolen credit cards and the majority of the remainder were originally sold with a "not for resale" clause in the purchasing agreement.
What exactly are you basing that on?
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Quoting: badberWhat exactly are you basing that on?I read, or at least glance through, the terms and conditions when I buy things. "Not for resale" clauses are the norm not the exception. Some countries will let a resale slide as consumer's rights, but buying thousands of copies, specifically for resale, wouldn't be protected under such provisions.
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Quoting: Comandante oardoI repeat:PaySafeCard works with argentinian cash as well.
I only buy Steam Wallet codes at G2A because they accept argentinian cash... yeah, cash, pe$os...
Thanks to G2A, I don't need to use my credit card any more on Steam...
Is THE ONLY international store who cares about Latinamerican gamers... Devs and other stores should LEARN and not complain.
https://www.paysafecard.com/es-ar/comprar/encontrar-puntos-de-venta/puntos-de-venta/
And Steam accepts PaySafeCard.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8360-WEJC-2625#acceptedforms
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Quoting: NelQuoting: Comandante oardoI repeat:PaySafeCard works with argentinian cash as well.
I only buy Steam Wallet codes at G2A because they accept argentinian cash... yeah, cash, pe$os...
Thanks to G2A, I don't need to use my credit card any more on Steam...
Is THE ONLY international store who cares about Latinamerican gamers... Devs and other stores should LEARN and not complain.
https://www.paysafecard.com/es-ar/comprar/encontrar-puntos-de-venta/puntos-de-venta/
And Steam accepts PaySafeCard.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8360-WEJC-2625#acceptedforms
Did You buy on Steam with pesos through a Paysafecard from Argentina? That is a ver important detail...
Any way, I'm good with rapipago... G2A by itself don't accept Rapipago; is PayU, their payment service provider the one who accepts rapipago... Is Steam who must make a dead with PayU.
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Quoting: burzmaliQuoting: badberWhat exactly are you basing that on?I read, or at least glance through, the terms and conditions when I buy things. "Not for resale" clauses are the norm not the exception. Some countries will let a resale slide as consumer's rights, but buying thousands of copies, specifically for resale, wouldn't be protected under such provisions.
Aand you know for a fact that people selling on G2A are either not from the countries where it's legal despite these terms or that the majority of keys have been obtained thousands at a time exactly how?
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Quoting: badberAand you know for a fact that people selling on G2A are either not from the countries where it's legal despite these terms or that the majority of keys have been obtained thousands at a time exactly how?If you're cool helping turn a crank in a money laundering scheme, who am I to dissuade you? Just don't be surprised if you find your keys cancelled and your Steam account flagged some day.
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burzmali and riusma thanks for the explanation!!
How can we be sure that G2a bulk purchase keys obtained by theft of credit cards?
The way it is being said here is as it were the main source of their income , is that really true?
Last edited by ANDREZAO on 28 June 2016 at 9:40 pm UTC
How can we be sure that G2a bulk purchase keys obtained by theft of credit cards?
The way it is being said here is as it were the main source of their income , is that really true?
Last edited by ANDREZAO on 28 June 2016 at 9:40 pm UTC
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Quoting: ANDREZAOHow can we be sure that G2a bulk purchase keys obtained by theft of credit cards?
It could be that people have legitimate access to large quantities of discount keys that they are able to sell for around half retail on launch day like: https://www.g2a.com/index.php/lego-star-wars-the-force-awakens-steam-cd-key-preorder-global.html?___store=canada
But if they did, why would they sell them on one of the shadiest sites around? Given the volume of keys that G2A moves, were they all legit, hell even if half were legit, you could set up a simple store front with no gimmicks and sell everything, no subscriptions, no "buy a random key" nonsense, just turning around thousands of dollars of keys per day at no risk.
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Quoting: ANDREZAOHow can we be sure that G2a bulk purchase keys obtained by theft of credit cards?
I don't think the main complaint is anything to do with theft but more about dev's missing out on their share of the sales on G2A. They sell X amount of keys from their own sites cheaply (or given away for free) but then see resellers making profit selling those same keys on G2A with no % for themselves.
And some might be upset with the keys being allowed to be resold period.
I hope that a system to remove any genuinely stolen keys can be put in place to protect both dev and client though. It is a worry for everyone I think.
I'll continue to buy from G2A, I've had no bad experiences with them.
Last edited by Destroyer on 29 June 2016 at 3:33 am UTC
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