After taking on some feedback along with refreshing the graph data today, the User Stats Page now has two different distributions graphs.
The first graph combines all Arch-based and Ubuntu-based distributions, so it's the most accurate graph of the two.
The second is the breakdown between each specific distribution and the spin-offs.
Why do I not include Debian with Ubuntu to have "Debian-based"? Ubuntu is actually quite different package wise to Debian nowadays and Ubuntu has a bunch of spin-offs directly from it. I don't think it's factually fair to lump Debian and Ubuntu together under a debian-based banner.
So, it should satisfy the curiosity of people like me who want to know specifically which spin-off is the most popular, while having the overall and proper distribution graph present first to give the clear overall picture.
I've added some explicit wording to the PC Info section of your User Control Panel to help clear up what people should select too:
Check out the User Stats Page.
Again, if you have suggestions, feel free and if possible (and if time permits) I can implement them. I won't add in all suggestions though of course, as we don't want to completely overload the page.
The first graph combines all Arch-based and Ubuntu-based distributions, so it's the most accurate graph of the two.
The second is the breakdown between each specific distribution and the spin-offs.
Why do I not include Debian with Ubuntu to have "Debian-based"? Ubuntu is actually quite different package wise to Debian nowadays and Ubuntu has a bunch of spin-offs directly from it. I don't think it's factually fair to lump Debian and Ubuntu together under a debian-based banner.
So, it should satisfy the curiosity of people like me who want to know specifically which spin-off is the most popular, while having the overall and proper distribution graph present first to give the clear overall picture.
I've added some explicit wording to the PC Info section of your User Control Panel to help clear up what people should select too:
QuotePlease make sure you select the exact distro you are using, we seperate things like Ubuntu & Xubuntu, Arch & Manjaro etc.
Check out the User Stats Page.
Again, if you have suggestions, feel free and if possible (and if time permits) I can implement them. I won't add in all suggestions though of course, as we don't want to completely overload the page.
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Nice improvement! I have to wonder where my 48GB of RAM went, though; to the 32GB or the 64GB bar?
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Quoting: tmtvlAw, so few geekos. Well, I guess it makes sense that gamers tend more towards the *buntu side of Linux, as that's what Steam and GoG recommend.
What's the Nvidia proprietary drier situation on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed? Last time I used it, I had an AMD card and used open source drivers.
Last edited by liamphmurphy on 1 August 2016 at 12:57 am UTC
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Quoting: CybolicNice improvement! I have to wonder where my 48GB of RAM went, though; to the 32GB or the 64GB bar?
Same question for my 18 GB of ram ;)
But for the Debian-Ubuntu thing, maybe you could publish a new graph based on the Package Format used by the OS...
No ?
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Quoting: hardpenguinI'll throw an old joke: Ubuntu is an ancient african word, meaning 'I can't configure Debian.'
Hahah... F***ing love it. The reason the Ubuntu bar chart is so much larger than Debian's is there's a lot of n3wbs who haven't figured this out yet X-P
EDIT:
Which was totally me for a long time. But, Debian is better if you're willing to put up with more config shenanigans up-front. The reward? Getting away from the fairly bad Unity DE Start Menu, mainly! What in the hell was Canonical thinking with Unity and the Unity Start Menu? What an egregious PoS Start Menu compared to other more standard Linux DE's.
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Quoting: CybolicNice improvement! I have to wonder where my 48GB of RAM went, though; to the 32GB or the 64GB bar?Neither, why would it? Check the full details dropdown.
Quoting: Eric1212See above.Quoting: CybolicNice improvement! I have to wonder where my 48GB of RAM went, though; to the 32GB or the 64GB bar?
Same question for my 18 GB of ram
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Quoting: liamdaweQuoting: CybolicNice improvement! I have to wonder where my 48GB of RAM went, though; to the 32GB or the 64GB bar?Neither, why would it? Check the full details dropdown.Quoting: Eric1212See above.Quoting: CybolicNice improvement! I have to wonder where my 48GB of RAM went, though; to the 32GB or the 64GB bar?
Same question for my 18 GB of ram
I see this in the dropdown :
Quote16GB: 359 (40.2%)
8GB: 306 (34.27%)
32GB: 64 (7.17%)
4GB: 57 (6.38%)
6GB: 32 (3.58%)
12GB: 30 (3.36%)
24GB: 13 (1.46%)
2GB: 7 (0.78%)
64GB: 6 (0.67%)
10GB: 4 (0.45%)
3GB: 4 (0.45%)
48GB: 4 (0.45%)
20GB: 2 (0.22%)
46GB: 1 (0.11%)
18GB: 1 (0.11%)
14GB: 1 (0.11%)
9GB: 1 (0.11%)
25GB: 1 (0.11%)
But in the graph, it's seems like we should see 64GB, 48GB, 46GB, 32GB, 25GB, 24GB, 20GB, 18GB, 16GB & 14GB. I know afterward that it's stupid to show data from 1 person when we doesn't show data from 306 but we still show the 10GB data from 4 persons... I never through to be the only one with 18Gb of ram... For the 48GB, maybe it's should be prefered on 10GB & 3GB...?
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Could you please add KDE Neon as an option: https://neon.kde.org/
Or maybe have the Kubuntu option as both, since it is very close to that and somewhat a successor to it?
Maybe a funny question would be also if the computer came with Linux preinstalled (Steam boxes, Tuxedo etc.). Additional it could have the answer, "no, but everything works out of the box with no extra configuration" or so.
Last edited by Julius on 1 August 2016 at 11:46 am UTC
Or maybe have the Kubuntu option as both, since it is very close to that and somewhat a successor to it?
Maybe a funny question would be also if the computer came with Linux preinstalled (Steam boxes, Tuxedo etc.). Additional it could have the answer, "no, but everything works out of the box with no extra configuration" or so.
Last edited by Julius on 1 August 2016 at 11:46 am UTC
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Quoting: minjWell SteamOS is debian-based while Manjaro differs more from Arch than Ubuntu spins from Ubuntu. So your grouping seems a bit arbitrary, not that there's a way to both be precise and generic at the same time...
I don't think it's much more difference on Arch/Manjaro than on Ubuntu derivates.
Manjaro is basically Arch with installer, some tools and a theme. They even take the packages directly from Arch, which is why they import the arch keyring.
The only difference is that there is that they don't push to stable without testing the supported desktops. Latest seen when Qt 5.7 was released which broke unified look on GTK based desktops, where the stable updates were held back for weeks until there existed fixes for the major GTK desktops to deal with the qt-styleengine.
In my opinion this isn't something which should have been broken in a minor release which Qt 5.7 is, though, they did. Arch just rolled the packages, Manjaro held them back until there were fixes.
I've been switching distros [a lot] lately, coming from Arch to several arch-based distros (Chakra etc.), to debian / tanglu, kubuntu, neon, back to arch, and later to Manjaro. If Manjaro does not change too much, it's a distro I think I can settle now for some time.
Only thing is, that Octopi is quite bad from usability point of view, but I never used graphical package managers anyway.
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Quoting: JuliusCould you please add KDE Neon as an option: https://neon.kde.org/
Or maybe have the Kubuntu option as both, since it is very close to that and somewhat a successor to it?
Maybe a funny question would be also if the computer came with Linux preinstalled (Steam boxes, Tuxedo etc.). Additional it could have the answer, "no, but everything works out of the box with no extra configuration" or so.
KDE Neon is not in any way a successor of KUbuntu. They've different goals, while KUbuntu goes with the Ubuntu cycle and software releases even with KDE (except if you use backports, which is not officially supported), Neon does not.
I like Neon, they're doing a great job. Though, I decided to get my back to anything *ubuntu based distro. I'd have loved to see Tanglu getting more reception and developers, though, the project seems to decline (a year without release).
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Quoting: tuubiI thought it was a no-brainer really. Especially on gnu/linux systems.Quoting: redshiftAlways wondered if we truly need 64vs32 question. Why does it matter?Of course it matters, to any game developer at least. It shows how important it is to build 64bit binaries.
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