Project Cars official twitter confirms to me there are no plans for it on Linux now

QuoteI have the impression that the future of games for Linux is very dependent on Valve ...

Right, Valve needs to show more pride and ownership in SteamOS, so bigger studios can feel confident in our platforms future. The situation with Rocket League, which I believe Valve has direct involvement in, shows quite the opposite unfortunately.

I fully understand that this is a marathon and not a sprint, but Valve has to be more vocal and open about what is happening, and not just hide behind the "Microsoft will lock the ecosystem down" statement (just like Epic). Yes it will take many years before we'll see platform parity, and Valve did a great thing by putting down the first stone, but it would be nice to know what they plan to build - a castle or a bike-shed. Valve showing more commitment would help alot, and while they can't build this all alone, doing left-hand work in "Valve Time" doesn't inspire others to pull up their sleeves.

Despite all this I don't believe Linux will fail as a gaming platform, just that it will take longer than it could have.

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Mountain ManAs far as I know, Valve is still actively supporting Steam for Linux and SteamOS, so why the doom and gloom? This was always a long-term project for them.

I'm honestly asking: Anythng they've (visibly) done, say, this year?
Besides doing basic maintenance on Steam for Linux?

The fact that they're doing "basic maintenance" is a good thing. If they let Steam for Linux get several versions behind Windows and OSX, and if we stopped seeing regular Linux releases in the Steam catalog, then I would see a reason to worry (and start looking for a cheap copy of Windows, as much as it would gall me).

That said, I do agree that Valve could be doing more to promote SteamOS/Linux, and I think there are several strategies they could employ such as basic advertising and partnering with developers to get SteamOS ports made, but there's no reason to be pessimistic. Things are still moving in a positive direction.

I am not mad, plenty of other games to buy. Doubt they would have made a DRM free version so I doubt I woukd have bought it anyway.

It seems like the game can still be played in Wine:

View video on youtube.com

Quoting: TuxeeDid anyone seriously think that Project Cars would ever see the light of day on SteamOS? The announcement was more than vague. There are a far more "outspoken" candidates out there which still have to deliver - Rocket League comes to my mind. And to spare you some future disappointment: If Star Citizen ever will be finished, we still won't see a Linux version. As with Kingdom Come: Deliverance (which reminds me, that I should finally get my refund from those bastards).

Star citizen is coming to Linux, and its been confirmed mutliple times.
Also the game is expected to be released by the end of the year.

The reason we dont have a port is because OpenGL are missing stuff along with cryengien.
But they will work on it.

Ofcourse they could probably back out, but I doubt it.
You can just ask the support what the exact problem are at the moment and Im sure they give u a strait answer.

Quoting: GuestSod them, I'll just pirate it and play it on my Windows partition.

The likes on this comments scares me a bit. Why do you want to steal a game just because they dont want to invest in a port for linux? I dont see the logic here. I cnn understand why some are disepointed, but that doesnt really give you the right to steal.


Last edited by Zelox on 8 August 2016 at 4:18 pm UTC

Played the game on my brother's Windows rig - kind of a 'meh' experience to be honest. Surely it would be nice to have it on Linux but it's not such a killer, super-duper game as some people seem to think. More interested in Dirt Rally, hopefully we gonna get it one day.

In my country this people are called LIARS

Quoting: TuxeeSince there is only a Windows version it will be counted as Windows sale, regardless of being installed or played.

That's not what the developer of the Stanley Parable said. Buy it on Linux, don't play it for a week, Steam counts it as a Linux sale. Whether the publisher cares about Steam's stats is another matter.

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Quoting: Zelox

Quoting: TuxeeThe likes on this comments scares me a bit. Why do you want to steal a game just because they dont want to invest in a port for linux?

It was only supposed to be a light hearted comment. (on the past?)
Truth is I won't ever play it at all, though I probably would have bought it IF it had ocme to Linux.

I see sorry ^^. I read it as a serious comment.
oops can you see that ? Im using an addon for firefox, called foxreplace.
I can replace words on the web, it keeps boring articles fun, like news around politics and stuff.
The partie of mordor is debating The parit of empire over the future of the US. sry bad example, but I think you get the point.
It may sound confusing, but as long as u know what you have changed stuff to, then it can give a pleasent reading xD.

And it changes the name microsoft or windows to the past. It seems that it changed it when I qouted your comment.
Good to know, links and stuff might change names :S.


Last edited by Zelox on 8 August 2016 at 5:56 pm UTC

Quoting: Zelox

Quoting: TuxeeDid anyone seriously think that Project Cars would ever see the light of day on SteamOS? The announcement was more than vague. There are a far more "outspoken" candidates out there which still have to deliver - Rocket League comes to my mind. And to spare you some future disappointment: If Star Citizen ever will be finished, we still won't see a Linux version. As with Kingdom Come: Deliverance (which reminds me, that I should finally get my refund from those bastards).

Star citizen is coming to Linux, and its been confirmed mutliple times.
Also the game is expected to be released by the end of the year.

The reason we dont have a port is because OpenGL are missing stuff along with cryengien.
But they will work on it.

Ofcourse they could probably back out, but I doubt it.
You can just ask the support what the exact problem are at the moment and Im sure they give u a strait answer.

Not only that, but if you examine their current Windows launcher compared to their original Windows launcher, you'll notice a shift from the original being Windows-only middleware to the current launcher, hint hint, seeming to be entirely based on libraries available on Linux.

Even more fun? In a recent episode of Bug Smashers, you could see a list of the available launchers in the programmer's ?Visual Studio? IDE, including such gems as "WindowsLauncher", "HeadlessLauncher", and... wait for it...

"LinuxLauncher".

So, they're at least poking it with a stick. And, seemingly, planning for it. Including making noise every now and again about revamping some stuff deep in the engine to better support DX12/Vulkan.

Also, at some point they switched sound middleware to something cross-platform with Linux support.

Do you... see a trend?

EDIT: I mean, sure, there are no guarantees in life, but there's good evidence that they're maneuvering themselves to a position to support Linux.


Last edited by niarbeht on 8 August 2016 at 6:03 pm UTC

Quoting: wintermute

Quoting: TuxeeSince there is only a Windows version it will be counted as Windows sale, regardless of being installed or played.

That's not what the developer of the Stanley Parable said. Buy it on Linux, don't play it for a week, Steam counts it as a Linux sale. Whether the publisher cares about Steam's stats is another matter.

If the developer hasn't actually posted a Linux version then all they see is a Windows sale even if Steam might track it internally as a Linux sale.


Last edited by Mountain Man on 8 August 2016 at 6:14 pm UTC

Quoting: niarbehtNot only that, but if you examine their current Windows launcher compared to their original Windows launcher, you'll notice a shift from the original being Windows-only middleware to the current launcher, hint hint, seeming to be entirely based on libraries available on Linux.

Even more fun? In a recent episode of Bug Smashers, you could see a list of the available launchers in the programmer's ?Visual Studio? IDE, including such gems as "WindowsLauncher", "HeadlessLauncher", and... wait for it...

"LinuxLauncher".

So, they're at least poking it with a stick. And, seemingly, planning for it. Including making noise every now and again about revamping some stuff deep in the engine to better support DX12/Vulkan.

Also, at some point they switched sound middleware to something cross-platform with Linux support.

Do you... see a trend?

EDIT: I mean, sure, there are no guarantees in life, but there's good evidence that they're maneuvering themselves to a position to support Linux.

OMG !! :D Im gonna watch bug smasher.
No I did not scream like a school girl xD.

Its probably no guarantee, but judging from the hype of Star citizen, its the first real vulkan supported game with a linux support hopefully.
There might be a bigger chanse players are going to try Linux, or more gamers are going to linux cause its free and they jsut want to play there Star citizen.


Last edited by Zelox on 8 August 2016 at 6:30 pm UTC

Quoting: wintermute

Quoting: TuxeeSince there is only a Windows version it will be counted as Windows sale, regardless of being installed or played.

That's not what the developer of the Stanley Parable said. Buy it on Linux, don't play it for a week, Steam counts it as a Linux sale. Whether the publisher cares about Steam's stats is another matter.

That's also what I read: Steam does show Linux sales for games not available on Linux.

Quoting: Zelox

Quoting: niarbehtNot only that, but if you examine their current Windows launcher compared to their original Windows launcher, you'll notice a shift from the original being Windows-only middleware to the current launcher, hint hint, seeming to be entirely based on libraries available on Linux.

Even more fun? In a recent episode of Bug Smashers, you could see a list of the available launchers in the programmer's ?Visual Studio? IDE, including such gems as "WindowsLauncher", "HeadlessLauncher", and... wait for it...

"LinuxLauncher".

So, they're at least poking it with a stick. And, seemingly, planning for it. Including making noise every now and again about revamping some stuff deep in the engine to better support DX12/Vulkan.

Also, at some point they switched sound middleware to something cross-platform with Linux support.

Do you... see a trend?

EDIT: I mean, sure, there are no guarantees in life, but there's good evidence that they're maneuvering themselves to a position to support Linux.

OMG !! :D Im gonna watch bug smasher.
No I did not scream like a school girl xD.

Its probably no guarantee, but judging from the hype of Star citizen, its the first real vulkan supported game with a linux support hopefully.
There might be a bigger chanse players are going to try Linux, or more gamers are going to linux cause its free and they jsut want to play there Star citizen.

Things like this also give me faith,

https://github.com/networkprotocol/libyojimbo/blob/master/README.md

Take a look at who the gold sponsor is...

As for pcars, had a gut feeling this would never happen tbh

Sent them an email about this. The tone of that email was not appreciative. It's not acceptable that we're still considered second class citizens.

Simply as that: SteamOS is NOT GNU/Linux and that is made clear by this. Who in fact can prevent Valve from changing this derivate so it is more incompatible with the general Linux-stack? Exactly: Nobody. Just using the kernel and some firmware and what about the rest? Just more proprietary software and addons doesn't bring Open-Source more clear in the foreground, but I like those discussions here ... when some people are crying out because they don't get the game to make Linux more shiny one day and in fact it is nothing more than a copy of Windows on their local system. :D

It will be relativized repeatedly, I know. But using proprietary software with DRM is just an option and possibility, nothing more. It doesn't help Linux in any way.

Wow, I sent this article to reddit and someone linked to this screengrab.

http://i.imgur.com/J1545id.jpg

That's how the Project Cars studio head responded to WiiU people they upset when they cancelled it. Extremely unprofessional.

Edit: It's not even being taken out of context, it's directly from here http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?27584-Can-the-Wii-U-run-PCARS/page9


Last edited by Liam Dawe on 8 August 2016 at 7:03 pm UTC

Those bastards. Glad I never supported their kickstarter, neither bought their game! I do have a Windows computer, but I do not support developers that just LIE for the love of money. Linux is EVERYTHING capable to run Project Cars, they were just getting so much money that they don't even care anymore. I hope they go bankrupt. Also the way they responded to that Wii U user, just unacceptable. That picture should go viral and force them to apologize.

Also, I wanna see that reddit post.


Last edited by austint30 on 8 August 2016 at 7:39 pm UTC

Quoting: liamdaweWow, I sent this article to reddit and someone linked to this screengrab.

http://i.imgur.com/J1545id.jpg

That's how the Project Cars studio head responded to WiiU people they upset when they cancelled it. Extremely unprofessional.

Edit: It's not even being taken out of context, it's directly from here http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?27584-Can-the-Wii-U-run-PCARS/page9

I dont really want to buy the game anymore anyway. Even if it comes to Linux Im not even considiering getting this.
The most scary part is that Ian seems to enjoy keep poking deafswing with trash talk.