You might remember a heated topic recently that the GOG version of 'Armello' was renamed to 'Armello DRM-Free Edition' and it won't be getting the DLC. It seems GOG are offering refunds now.
Writing on the forum post a GOG staff member said this:
I still think it's crazy to lock out users like that on one particular store, but it's nice to see GOG offer refunds. It's the right thing to do after all, since they essentially have a poorly supported inferior version of the game. It gets updated late, won't get DLC and certain online features.
They actual developer of Armello posted on Steam about the issue:
I don't want to automatically assume anything, but the reply here sounds really odd. It's true we don't know about their processes, but considering plenty of others have DLC on GOG it's just really damn weird.
They also claim it has nothing to do with piracy, as a lot of people were claiming the developers were doing it to keep it locked to Steam to prevent piracy of the DLC.
Nice to see refunds being offered, but still sad to see GOG get essentially shafted by a developer.
Thanks for the info Luke!
Writing on the forum post a GOG staff member said this:
QuoteHey everyone, a short announcement:
Due to changes to the GOG.com version of Armello and the fact that some online functionalities and future content for the game will not be available on GOG.com, we want to make sure all prior owners have a choice. If you feel that the current version of Armello is not something you wished for back when you bought the game - please contact our support team for a refund.
I still think it's crazy to lock out users like that on one particular store, but it's nice to see GOG offer refunds. It's the right thing to do after all, since they essentially have a poorly supported inferior version of the game. It gets updated late, won't get DLC and certain online features.
They actual developer of Armello posted on Steam about the issue:
QuoteJust because another studio or game has DLC on DRM Free, doesn't mean it's immediately a possibility for us or Armello. Assuming as much is incredibly naive. Every team's processes, resources, and games are innumerably different.
Almost every single piece of conjecture about ways we could have or should roll out our DLC on DRM Free have either been wildly off course or avenues we've already investigated.
Now, of course it's theoretically possible to have DLC on DRM Free, I mean, there's a robot taking selfies on Mars right now. So sure, given infinite resources and time we could undertake the task of rewriting the underlying architecture at the core of this decision, but that's straight up not feasible for a vast number of reasons that are unique to LoG, Armello, where we're standing right now and where we see Armello's future.
I don't want to automatically assume anything, but the reply here sounds really odd. It's true we don't know about their processes, but considering plenty of others have DLC on GOG it's just really damn weird.
They also claim it has nothing to do with piracy, as a lot of people were claiming the developers were doing it to keep it locked to Steam to prevent piracy of the DLC.
Nice to see refunds being offered, but still sad to see GOG get essentially shafted by a developer.
Thanks for the info Luke!
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Quote...the reply here sounds really oddBut is true:
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What a bunch of stupid funny devs. They rather lose money to refunds than keep on letting go of DRM, which they initially did.
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Quoting: KimyrielleWhat a bunch ofWhich suggests that there is a legitimate technical reason rather than an ideological one.stupidfunny devs. They rather lose money to refunds than keep on letting go of DRM, which they initially did.
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Can't think of any. DRM isn't required for anything but DRM.
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Steam provides convenient patch system. I assume it has something to do with them not wanting to lose man-hours. And GOG sales might be not worth it. It still stinks of course.
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Quoting: Mountain ManIt's a GOG refund not a League of Geeks refund. Only GOG wastes money here.Quoting: KimyrielleWhat a bunch ofWhich suggests that there is a legitimate technical reason rather than an ideological one.stupidfunny devs. They rather lose money to refunds than keep on letting go of DRM, which they initially did.
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Welp, if I wasn't a fan of GOG already, I'd sure be one now.
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According to some people, Steam is not a DRM and never has been a DRM... Maybe these Devs are among them.
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Some times ago, Paradox announced that they will stop sale any of their future game anywhere else than steam (or that other resellers would just sell steam code) because it is so much easier and cheaper for them to support just one version of game.
Similar statement was done by devs of Age of Wonders 3, although that was regarding Linux version only and they still got very weird online system (read, very stupid DRM).
Now, LoG is saying something similar. It is much easier for them (and thus cheaper) to support just steam version, due to increase of online content, easy of patching and so.
So why are people bitching about the last example even here? I thought that here is bit more intelligent community. But rather than intelligent posts, all I read here is just nonsensical bitching with make up reasons why it should be easy.
Similar statement was done by devs of Age of Wonders 3, although that was regarding Linux version only and they still got very weird online system (read, very stupid DRM).
Now, LoG is saying something similar. It is much easier for them (and thus cheaper) to support just steam version, due to increase of online content, easy of patching and so.
So why are people bitching about the last example even here? I thought that here is bit more intelligent community. But rather than intelligent posts, all I read here is just nonsensical bitching with make up reasons why it should be easy.
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Quoting: ColomboSo why are people bitching about the last example even here? I thought that here is bit more intelligent community. But rather than intelligent posts, all I read here is just nonsensical bitching with make up reasons why it should be easy.
It's because the (support for the) DRM-free version got degraded after it was sold.
DRM-free was promised as far back as the kickstarter and, given how competitive that is, they may even not have succeeded without it.
Edit:
Just got it confirmed; kickstarter backers will NOT receive a refund (interestingly, still waiting for the drm-free version)
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