Civilization VI for Linux is no longer certain, only a possibility

Darn. I was waiting for it. Additionally, they say that it will be released for "PC" and they have steam/steamOS logo on their website. But, with current devs, this can mean anything.

Disappointed.

I launched a wall of text on the reddit thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/55vuci/civilization_vi_aspyr_to_launch_mac_version_linux/

Go over there and show your support, we gotta keep causing a ruckus and continue to lay out plainly why Linux Is The Future and why Windows & Apple marketplaces will be bad for business.

The less they think we care the less they'll try.

This is going to be weird, but I guess I'm ready to make 6 the first Civ game in ~25 years that I *won't* be buying. :(

This is always a risk when games need porting and/or this is not handled in house.

You would think they invested that Linux/OSX money (I am sure the amounts were substantial for something so huge as Civ) into porting their engine, but no..

I blame this on the lack of commitment.

Really disappointing news. Guess, I will buy and try out Stellaris then.

Really disappointing news. Guess, I will buy and try out Stellaris then.

Stellaris is awesome but it's a different kind of 4X.

More Lameness from Aspyr, I really hope they turn it around.

Looks like Aspyr is letting Linux users down... We 've had no news for them for one year, and now this... :'( During the same time Feral releaased a port every 2 months...

Oh well, I wasn't sure if I wanted the game anyway, despite I am a huge Civ fan. I own every single game in the franchise so far, but this one I am skeptical about. The infantile cartoon art aside (it's a borderline dealbreaker all by itself, right there), but I am also not sure about cities going to sprawl out on your map. The scale between city and world size will just not match up anymore. Also, the idea to make world wonders occupy entire squares and even require certain terrain to build on seems to be quite artificial to me.

In the end, their loss, not mine. I can continue to play Civ V for a while longer. I also own Stellaris, Hearts of Iron IV, and Europa Universalis IV, so my strategy game needs are satisfied for the time being. No tux, no bux!

Strange news, and I do hope it works out eventually; but Civ V is still good (still play it with a friend) and in the meantime I've discovered Europa Universalis IV which has rapidly consumed much more of my time than Civ V has, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

I wonder whether we're entering a phase of increased difficulties for ports. Wayland is around the corner, so is vulcan. The stack isn't so certain anymore. It might take a few years again for the stack to settle down and expertise to accumulate.

Over the last years the graphics stack wasn't a moving target. It will be again for 3D games. It might be unfeasible in the next years for games with a custom engine to be ported.

what the...

That's fine, I'll just take my money elsewhere. No, I'm not crying...

Very disappointing news. The statement on reddit sounds more like they having technical difficulties rather than they dropped Linux in general. Now we can just sit and wait like we always do. I hope things will work out in the end.

Before saying something about Aspyr, please admit that you can`t know the reasons about this problem.
For example, other studio Feral Interactive didn`t port F1 2015 on Mac (!) because of OpenGL problems.
So it might be problems with Steam OS or Ubuntu, or engine problem, etc.

Well, I wouldn't mind a delay of 1-2 years. That is the time which Fireaxis needs to fix the bugs and improve the AI with lots of DLCs. They release Alpha-Ware mostly. So I can wait :)

BTW: What is going on with Aspyr anyway? They have done excellent ports and now they are silent for almost a year :(

This is a really important game for Linux - this needs to happen. If it's everything they promise, there's going to be a mass migration across from Civ V and Linux needs to be part of that!

In Aspyr we must trust.

Added in a quote from reddit.

I feel - and I guess Aspyr would sign this - that after Civ 5 was ported and it was clear from the beginning that Civ 6 should run on Mac and Linux as well, Aspyr should have been involved in the development early, so not only porting it, but transfering from the beginning and in parallel and with some influence on decisions being made. But I guess, Mac and Linux are not strong enough to come into that position...

Really disappointing news. Guess, I will buy and try out Stellaris then.

Don't. Its incredibly shallow game that do not know what it wants to be.

It is part storytelling exploration game, part grand strategy, part 4X... but does not do even one of them right. For GS, it lacks meaningful interaction between entities. For 4X, it lacks more complicated content (it has only a bit more complex fighting and technology system from EU4). The exploration storytelling game ends after you discover your nearby 5 star systems, some longer chains later in game are broken, most of stuff you will gain from those quests are either utterly rubbish or single extremely powerful item (which in long run, you don't really need) and if you are really really lucky, you can see some universe catastrophe events, like invasion of extraplanar species or AI rebellion. But only single event like that per game.

Fighting is utterly boring micro, where you are either trying to hunt enemy across systems, which may be quite complicated due to difference in various FTLs and weakness of any system defences (so basically, one can be easily raided by a few ships and war score plumets, even when you have already destroyed all enemy's large fleets). Finally, current technology is quite one-sided as there is single superb weapon system you always need, aim for and with that and sufficient amount, you can destroy even twice larger fleets with easy (even those extraplanar species that are supposed to be treath!)

Sieging planets is utter bullshit as well, as you need to manually take army of land troops, send them near enemy planet, be sure everything is cleared and there is not even single enemy ship, as those troop transports are completely unarmed, send them to enemy planet and if you have larger fleet than can be stationed on planet, you have won. However, your troops are damaged and do not heal, so you have to manually put troops from planet and put them on planet again, or send them home from battle line. I could continue with armies, but it is just horrible and required unnecessary clickfest. + army there are a lot of interesting army technologies, like psi-corps or mutants or war machines, which ultimately do not play almost any role.

Resource management is quite unbalanced as well. Planets are boring and require a lot of clicking. There is supposed something that should help it, as in CKII, you can directly manage only certain number of planets and you need to assign other to sectors. But their management is subpar.

Arg... just... too much systems, too little prototyping, too much wrong. It just does not hold together well enough to have consistent game.


Maybe in 4 DLCs. But hey, I still have 70 hours in it. And before you discover all these problems, it looks amazing (before you start the game for third time and discover that although pictures, traits and planets are different, you are basically playing the same thing again and again and getting basically the same exploration events).

I really hope this is just someone being careful with commitments, CivV and Civ:BE were both great ports and I would _really_ like to see CivVI on Linux.