Feral Interactive's call for a stable Mesa PPA has already made progress, as there's now a stable PPA available for Mesa.
Paulo Dias "Padoka" has setup another PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa
Note: This is a community-run PPA, so it's possible it may someday go out of date and/or have issues at times.
This is likely a stop-gap measure until something more official is done.
It currently hosts Mesa 13.0.2 and LLVM 3.9 along with RADV and ANV the AMD and Intel open source Vulkan drivers.
If you're on Ubuntu, or one of its derivatives you can install this PPA by doing this command:
Followed by:
That's all you should need to do now on Ubuntu to get a stable and up to date version of Mesa.
Thanks for pointing it out calexil. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Paulo Dias "Padoka" has setup another PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa
Note: This is a community-run PPA, so it's possible it may someday go out of date and/or have issues at times.
This is likely a stop-gap measure until something more official is done.
It currently hosts Mesa 13.0.2 and LLVM 3.9 along with RADV and ANV the AMD and Intel open source Vulkan drivers.
If you're on Ubuntu, or one of its derivatives you can install this PPA by doing this command:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:paulo-miguel-dias/pkppaFollowed by:
sudo apt-get updateThat's all you should need to do now on Ubuntu to get a stable and up to date version of Mesa.
Thanks for pointing it out calexil. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Who cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (edit:SAME AS SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.
But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving
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But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving
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Quoting: lelouchWho cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (like SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.
But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving
Because plenty of people still use Ubuntu and it's derivatives, myself included.
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Same here Ubuntu is what got me into switching to linux some many many years ago lol
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Quoting: aFoxNamedMorrisAccording to GOL users (x)buntu is also the most used https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statisticsQuoting: lelouchWho cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (like SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.
But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving
Because plenty of people still use Ubuntu and it's derivatives, myself included.
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Quoting: aFoxNamedMorrisQuoting: lelouchWho cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (like SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.
But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving
Because plenty of people still use Ubuntu and it's derivatives, myself included.
Agree with @aFoxNamedMorris, while I dont use Ubuntu I do use Mint18 a derivative and so if I had an AMD card (I dont) this would be usable for me as well.
I really dont understand the Linux community at times, some segments seem very elitist (Not an accusation at lelouch, the comment just reminds me of it); its a case of first they are better because they use Linux, but then because attempts to appeal to a wider audience means there becomes "simpler" (and this is only simple out of the box, the same complexity can be applied to the likes of Ubuntu) distributions aimed at allowing those not so technically minded a step into the Linux world they suddenly migrate to more esoteric Distro's and cry yes Ok its linux but really its "babies first linux" nota tru Linux like XYZ that I use...
It just seems so petty at times.
Back on topic, I see this as a good development, anything that streamlines the installation of drivers will make those wanting to switch to Linux for gaming have an easier time. And in time as you say an official repo may be opened with true support.
EDIT: I guess what im trying to say is that the OS is supposed to work for me the user, not make me work for it. "Simpler", user oriented distributions allow for that without the upfront heavy lifting, and are notably built for stability that means I shouldnt unless I try to mess deeper be subjected to spending hours finding the solution to esoteric problems (or even basic ones) like installing drivers that doesnt involve compiling from source something that really should be available out of the box.
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Quoting: aFoxNamedMorrisQuoting: lelouchWho cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (like SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.
But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving
Because plenty of people still use Ubuntu and it's derivatives, myself included.
Are you serious mate? Ubuntu did not grow into a large user base by chance. Go bitch some where else!
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Suprise;)-not, you all are using ubuntu!
At least I argued, but why u fanboys all haven choosen ubuntu in the first place!? Besides you had no clue and it was popular and big at that given time, so you are using it. (I tested so many distros in years (and many other folks did this too), but never found a good reason to choose suse or ubuntu (minus derivatives there are many other distros) - same reasons why others stick with windows??? So why you haven choosen ubuntu+derivatives? Have you even tried other distros before choosing? Which? And why do you stay with it? So obviously you want newest graphic drivers, but don't want to switch the distro.
(Seriously, I mean REAL reasons w/o fanboying (I see this already under every article about every game), not stupid arguments which concern every linux distro or are just wrong for ubuntu, because these arguments more belong to every other distro than ubuntu&Co)
BTW to the 1p: popular means "most used", but doesn't mean it's good (e.g. Windows lol) - so, I already said that.
At least I argued, but why u fanboys all haven choosen ubuntu in the first place!? Besides you had no clue and it was popular and big at that given time, so you are using it. (I tested so many distros in years (and many other folks did this too), but never found a good reason to choose suse or ubuntu (minus derivatives there are many other distros) - same reasons why others stick with windows??? So why you haven choosen ubuntu+derivatives? Have you even tried other distros before choosing? Which? And why do you stay with it? So obviously you want newest graphic drivers, but don't want to switch the distro.
(Seriously, I mean REAL reasons w/o fanboying (I see this already under every article about every game), not stupid arguments which concern every linux distro or are just wrong for ubuntu, because these arguments more belong to every other distro than ubuntu&Co)
BTW to the 1p: popular means "most used", but doesn't mean it's good (e.g. Windows lol) - so, I already said that.
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Dear lelouch, your comments seem out of topic and pointless. You don't like Ubuntu. So what? If you have something else to say, please read http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html then try again.
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Please do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
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Johan Lejonborn Dec 8, 2016
This is great! Added the PPA on my laptop with Intel GPU and it upgraded everything just fine. I usually run the LTS-releases where MESA tends to be very out of date and now i can just add this PPA and have stable updated drivers.
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Quoting: lelouchSuprise;)-not, you all are using ubuntu!
At least I argued, but why u fanboys all haven choosen ubuntu in the first place!? Besides you had no clue and it was popular and big at that given time, so you are using it. (I tested so many distros in years (and many other folks did this too), but never found a good reason to choose suse or ubuntu (minus derivatives there are many other distros) - same reasons why others stick with windows??? So why you haven choosen ubuntu+derivatives? Have you even tried other distros before choosing? Which? And why do you stay with it? So obviously you want newest graphic drivers, but don't want to switch the distro.
(Seriously, I mean REAL reasons w/o fanboying (I see this already under every article about every game), not stupid arguments which concern every linux distro or are just wrong for ubuntu, because these arguments more belong to every other distro than ubuntu&Co)
BTW to the 1p: popular means "most used", but doesn't mean it's good (e.g. Windows lol) - so, I already said that.
Well to answer other than you have made assumptions straight away that because Im using An Ubuntu derivative I am not capable of making an informed decsion on whats best for me (you know this choice thing that open source is all about) because it differs from your belief subjective as that is.
The first Linux Distribution I ever installed was Fedora (Version Core 6 for reference); I have also used Suse and wasnt a fan, and back when I picked up one of the Linux magazines I tried nearly every distro they had on a Live CD. I have never installed Ubuntu - notably because the installer always failed to boot and I had beet things to do than fix that.
I am now on Linux Mint and have been since version 6 (I use Nvidia drivers, so the whole MESA AMD thing doesnt affect me; if I want the latest driver I can download the damn thing direct from Nvidia if I want.), because I like it; simply put thats it. i like Cinnamon as a DE, better than KDE, GNOME, MATE or XFCE (which are what I have tried). And I dont like Unity either.
I have complied programs from source when needed its not as if this ability evades me; I have no fear of the commandline infact I prefer it as a method of program installation! But as I alluded to, Mint is user friendly and mostly works out of the box and I can just use it. This is a bonus to me as with 2 kids (and a wife i suppose) I dont have the time to spend fixing things breaking after updates I want to spend my precious free time actually gaming.
For the record I have a home server that runs debian, because you know what it does that job very well! I have an old laptop that is waiting for me to test Arch on; again this is the time issue as in not having enough of it! Who knows maybe after trying it i will switch my Gaming PC to Arch, but that wont be because Arch is objectively better only because I may subjectively find it better and accept the trade-offs its customizability offers for out of the box workiness!
Why dont I use windows you say; becuase choice I dont want to it adds nothing to the equation that I cant do at least as well on linux. Every distribution has its trade-offs I made an informed decision on what trade-offs I wanted to make.
EDIT: Saw Liams comment about Distro wars after I posted. I generally agree choose what is good for you, dont let others dictate to you what you should be using. All distros are Linux, and choice is good :)
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edddeduck_feral Dec 8, 2016
Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
This seems apt :)
View video on youtube.com
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Quoting: edddeduckferalQuoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
This seems apt :)
View video on youtube.com
surely thats:
su apt-get install Friends
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This is great news, and this is why Ubuntu is great. It's actually supported!
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SteamOS or ubuntu is the standard for gaming, steam games are tested on ubuntu.
Rolling release is not good for gaming, today all work, maybe tomorrow not, games and developers need some more stable to work.
I use linux mint and ApricityOs.
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Rolling release is not good for gaming, today all work, maybe tomorrow not, games and developers need some more stable to work.
I use linux mint and ApricityOs.
Last edited by ainumortis on 8 December 2016 at 12:07 pm UTC
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Quoting: neffoThis is great news, and this is why Ubuntu is great. It's actually supported!
What do you mean with supported? By Canonical?
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Quoting: NovaTinyQuoting: neffoThis is great news, and this is why Ubuntu is great. It's actually supported!
What do you mean with supported? By Canonical?
Read the link at the start of the article, but here is a summary:
All the PPAs for Mesa were built from the git (a daily grab bag of features, bugs or regressions), rather than from the latest release. This made it near impossible to support, but the Mesa bundled with LTS Ubuntu was ancient and lacking features. This PPA means that Feral (and others) have an up-to-date Mesa target to support. Great news for Feral, great news for people on AMD/Intel hardware and great news for gamers all round.
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Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
Sounds like a good idea for a game. I think you should start a community project :P
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