Feral Interactive's call for a stable Mesa PPA has already made progress, as there's now a stable PPA available for Mesa.
Paulo Dias "Padoka" has setup another PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa
Note: This is a community-run PPA, so it's possible it may someday go out of date and/or have issues at times.
This is likely a stop-gap measure until something more official is done.
It currently hosts Mesa 13.0.2 and LLVM 3.9 along with RADV and ANV the AMD and Intel open source Vulkan drivers.
If you're on Ubuntu, or one of its derivatives you can install this PPA by doing this command:
Followed by:
That's all you should need to do now on Ubuntu to get a stable and up to date version of Mesa.
Thanks for pointing it out calexil. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Paulo Dias "Padoka" has setup another PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa
Note: This is a community-run PPA, so it's possible it may someday go out of date and/or have issues at times.
This is likely a stop-gap measure until something more official is done.
It currently hosts Mesa 13.0.2 and LLVM 3.9 along with RADV and ANV the AMD and Intel open source Vulkan drivers.
If you're on Ubuntu, or one of its derivatives you can install this PPA by doing this command:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:paulo-miguel-dias/pkppaFollowed by:
sudo apt-get updateThat's all you should need to do now on Ubuntu to get a stable and up to date version of Mesa.
Thanks for pointing it out calexil. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Ubuntu needs a rolling release. Rolling release has been nice for me using opensource drivers. I dont have to worry about adding unofficial repositories and still get the latest stable drivers. The issue with rolling release is steam packaging old lib files that are incompatible with the opensource drivers.
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You can drop the get you know :)
You'll need to get use to it but its much faster on a daily basis !
sudo apt update You'll need to get use to it but its much faster on a daily basis !
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what I need to do is trace down xorg 1.19 so I can test those optimus changes properly, saying that though, time to get my Gentoo install working, back before UEFI it was easy, now it's just complicated!
I do miss Gentoo, hello darkness my old friend...
I do miss Gentoo, hello darkness my old friend...
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For the people who are new to this PPA thing, in the case something go wrong, to switch between PPAs or if you just want to go back to the stock packages, you can uninstall a PPA installing the package "ppa-purge":
Then, you can uninstall a PPA with:
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sudo apt install ppa-purgeThen, you can uninstall a PPA with:
sudo ppa-purge nameofppaLast edited by M@GOid on 8 December 2016 at 3:33 pm UTC
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Quoting: khanseiYou can drop the get you know :)
sudo apt update
You'll need to get use to it but its much faster on a daily basis !
I know; i usually use just apt myself. However as upthread we were having a discussion about Ubuntu being an 'easy' distro I thought I would use the longer way on purpose :P
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Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
We should celebrate our diversity. I don't like Ubuntu, but I have no issue with other people liking it. It has brought many users to Linux that may not be here otherwise. I'm not a huge fan of rolling release either as it can interfere with consistency. I'm happy with whatever distro works for the user, which is really what is important. You don't get that with Windows, the user does not matter. That is what Linux and FSF is about, user freedom. Celebrate it!
The fact that users can get current versions of mesa, llvm, radv in ubuntu more easily is great!
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Quoting: m2mg2There's freedom and then there's people being douches and starting a needless distro war ;)Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
We should celebrate our diversity. I don't like Ubuntu, but I have no issue with other people liking it. It has brought many users to Linux that may not be here otherwise. I'm not a huge fan of rolling release either as it can interfere with consistency. I'm happy with whatever distro works for the user, which is really what is important. You don't get that with Windows, the user does not matter. That is what Linux and FSF is about, user freedom. Celebrate it!
The fact that users can get current versions of mesa, llvm, radv in ubuntu more easily is great!
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Quoting: liamdaweQuoting: m2mg2There's freedom and then there's people being douches and starting a needless distro war ;)Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
We should celebrate our diversity. I don't like Ubuntu, but I have no issue with other people liking it. It has brought many users to Linux that may not be here otherwise. I'm not a huge fan of rolling release either as it can interfere with consistency. I'm happy with whatever distro works for the user, which is really what is important. You don't get that with Windows, the user does not matter. That is what Linux and FSF is about, user freedom. Celebrate it!
The fact that users can get current versions of mesa, llvm, radv in ubuntu more easily is great!
I totally agree, I meant we should talk about all distro's positively and not bring negativity about individual choice. It was meant to be a statement of agreement, sorry if it wasn't as clear as it was intended.
--edited for punctuation
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No one wants a distro wars because we all know where it is going. A bunch of people defending their distribution without any objectivity. Question is : where can you talk about it ? The answer is probably no where.
We shouldn't start a distro war but I have to say lelouch is partly right. some distributions have serious issues that are barely pointed out publicly. Won't go further cause we said no distro war.
Anyway, good thing for ubuntu users which are the majority nowadays
We shouldn't start a distro war but I have to say lelouch is partly right. some distributions have serious issues that are barely pointed out publicly. Won't go further cause we said no distro war.
Anyway, good thing for ubuntu users which are the majority nowadays
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Quoting: giamicDear lelouch, your comments seem out of topic and pointless. You don't like Ubuntu. So what? If you have something else to say, please read http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html then try again.
I now is off topic but thanks for lecture that man, I really enjoyed it.
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Quoting: m0nt3Ubuntu needs a rolling release. Rolling release has been nice for me using opensource drivers. I dont have to worry about adding unofficial repositories and still get the latest stable drivers. The issue with rolling release is steam packaging old lib files that are incompatible with the opensource drivers.
If you want a rolling release, you can already use Debian testing.
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Quoting: MGOidFor the people who are new to this PPA thing, in the case something go wrong, to switch between PPAs or if you just want to go back to the stock packages, you can uninstall a PPA installing the package "ppa-purge":
sudo apt install ppa-purge
Then, you can uninstall a PPA with:
sudo ppa-purge nameofppa
It seems I got burned (Cinnamon complains that it's running without video hardware acceleration with this ppa) so I tried this. After the first phase it lists out as WILL BE REMOVED nearly every component there is and prompts for "Yes, I know what I'm doing". I did this once, and it wrecked my system. If I type anything else, it takes me to another list with still plenty of stuff being removed (including libs from vlc, skype, steam..). What should I do here? I don't want to reinstall my system like I had to do last time..
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Quoting: ainumortisRolling release is not good for gaming, today all work, maybe tomorrow not, games and developers need some more stable to work.
This is a myth! Don't be a fool.
Tested distros and even DM/WM for best working with steam/BPM (stabilty/performance/newest drivers), and ubuntu indeeed was not better as widly proclaimed.
Also Ubuntu is just used as support distro by devs, because it is the most used, not more. (nothing to do it would be better on any way for gaming, or such).
Also just annoyed from all these fanboys, don't realizing they are - I just asked for a real reasons (besides "its popular, so I use it, too" ), nothing more, but for most got avoiding (expected) and flaming - they just give wrong believes, nothing about to see they made there mind up on there own - that, I think, is sad!
And liam always posts "new mesa drivers"-posts only about ubuntu, avoiding confrontation with any other distro and promoting only this 1. Given new linux users the view, beeing THE choice.
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Guys, we have a forum for a reason, seriously, take x vs y distro there ;)
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Quoting: m0nt3The issue with rolling release is steam packaging old lib files that are incompatible with the opensource drivers.
(The thing with steam updates and their bundled libs - conflicts with their outdated libs and the graphic driver of your system) That was long time ago. Not anymore. Usually just install the meta package steam-native-runtime (maintains all 32bit libs in newest versions) and run steam-native.
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Quoting: Maquis196what I need to do is trace down xorg 1.19 so I can test those optimus changes properly, saying that though, time to get my Gentoo install working, back before UEFI it was easy, now it's just complicated!
I do miss Gentoo, hello darkness my old friend...
What has UEFI to do with xorg!? UEFI isn't more complicated either.
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Quoting: m2mg2Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.
We should celebrate our diversity. I don't like Ubuntu, but I have no issue with other people liking it. It has brought many users to Linux that may not be here otherwise. I'm not a huge fan of rolling release either as it can interfere with consistency. I'm happy with whatever distro works for the user, which is really what is important. You don't get that with Windows, the user does not matter. That is what Linux and FSF is about, user freedom. Celebrate it!
The fact that users can get current versions of mesa, llvm, radv in ubuntu more easily is great!
There is e.g. always a securtity reason by using 3rd party repos. Upstream should more care about it. I never read believable reasons to hold back widely wanted updates (from offical repos in ubuntu, fedora and others till next big half year upgrade.
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Quoting: m2mg2we should talk about all distro's positively and not bring negativity about individual choice.
No, exactly not!!!
You see, to be real and believable (especially for non-linux users)
it would be advised to be objective and tell positive and negative things about linux - all other would be lying and "looking class"-view.
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Quoting: paasistiIt seems I got burned (Cinnamon complains that it's running without video hardware acceleration with this ppa) so I tried this. After the first phase it lists out as WILL BE REMOVED nearly every component there is and prompts for "Yes, I know what I'm doing". I did this once, and it wrecked my system. If I type anything else, it takes me to another list with still plenty of stuff being removed (including libs from vlc, skype, steam..). What should I do here? I don't want to reinstall my system like I had to do last time..
Strange, I didn't remember ppa-purge do this with me. What distro are you using and what PPA are you trying to remove?
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Quoting: lelouchAlso just annoyed from all these fanboys, don't realizing they are - I just asked for a real reasons (besides "its popular, so I use it, too" ), nothing more, but for most got avoiding (expected) and flaming - they just give wrong believes, nothing about to see they made there mind up on there own - that, I think, is sad!
OK so I guess it was pointless me posting my lengthy reply about my reasons for selecting my distro,with reasons because you have decided it doesn't fit your narrative of being an uninformed "fanboy" so just ignored it.
Anyway that's the last on this for me, I come here for gaming news not to be berated for making the "wrong" choice on distro!
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Quoting: liamdaweGuys, we have a forum for a reason, seriously, take x vs y distro there
Gah saw this after my last post.. I promise I will be good now :P
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