Wine 2.0-rc1 released, also showing progress towards Overwatch working in a future Wine version

Native or not interested.

Seems harsh I know, I feel wine is a get out for some devs to the point were I feel wine actually hinders in some cases .

Am not saying Wine is bad by any stretch btw, I see wine as a means to run legacy/old programs that no longer have support/developer gone

Not really interested in Overwatch, but good progress on DX11. Will it benefit Witcher 3?

Native or not interested.

Yep, that's my stance on gaming. No linux version, no money from me. Every major (and minor) game engine has mac and linux version. SDL2 supports every OS. There's no excuse to not have a linux version.

In this wine version have some improvements related to input: risen 1 and risen 2 works without require windowed mode

View video on youtube.com

In other things this wine add Geforce GTX 1050 recognition

View video on youtube.com

Update risen 1 video are added

^_^


Last edited by mrdeathjr on 13 December 2016 at 9:06 pm UTC

hype for overwatch finally! *_*

Native or not interested.

Yep, that's my stance on gaming. No linux version, no money from me. Every major (and minor) game engine has mac and linux version. SDL2 supports every OS. There's no excuse to not have a linux version.

count me in as well

shame Blizzard has absolutely no interest in Linux

But they're part of the khronos group, so I guess there's hope in the long term


Last edited by minidou on 12 December 2016 at 8:42 pm UTC

Here's hoping they don't ban you for using hacks "cough" I mean Linux.

I would be more interested to get a MOBA/Hero shooter natively on Linux. If I had to put my money on any of them it would be Battleborn. A for being a 2K game and Feral and Aspyr are both chummy with 2K although my money is on Feral and B that game kinda tanked on PC not because it was a bad game, because honestly it's actually a really good looking game in its own right but because of overwatch stealing its thunder. And in all honestly a release on Linux and Mac could very well be what this game needs to find its niche since both platforms are pretty much void of this genre.

And since I've provided reasoning why this can happen from a 2K - Feral PR perspective and given a very decent argument Feral can use when trying to convince 2K. All that is left now is for Liam to pass this request on to Feral :)

Hmmm... I wonder if we can make Blizard to port ALL their games to ALL OS no matter what...
Not a petition something that will hurt their wallets....

So far Overwatch is only playable in Windows and consoles ... so MAC users are on our side :)

I wonder if it is possible to make a "Strong" movement like for example to force everyone to stop their subscription or Stop playing any Blizzard Games for maybe 2-3 Month unless we got a word from Blizzard that ALL their games will be playable to ALL OS ?? :D

Lets say if we throw out a lot of bombs at social media, for example a Banner that says:

7/7/2017
EVERYONE STOPS PLAYING BLIZZARD GAMES
FOR A MONTH
- LETS STOP THE MONOPOLY!!! -
SUPPORT ALL OS

Do you thing Blizzard will get scared if social Media push them over? or they are going to wait for that date 7/7/2017 to see what will happen? :P

Last year there was a push to make Blizzard release linux version of their games, here's the article:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tell-blizzard-you-want-linux-support-in-their-games.5066
As for me, I will never play any Blizzard game till they release a linux client.
I know we are only a few who game on linux but still we exist.

Im going to have to agree with the thread consensus here. I shall put my money on native games or those wrapped with eON, but never for use solely in WINE. There are already two perfect ways to get 100% performance for this game, one is baremetal pass through VM and the other is a windows partition.

I usually refrain from buying games these days unless they come with a Linux port as well. But I am willing to make 1 or 2 exceptions per year if I -really- want the game. Fallout 4 was last year's. I don't think I had one this year. But I -am- glad that Wine is capable of running SWTOR in Linux, so I don't have to boot into Windows to get my MMO fix. Maybe the Wine guys can fix the broken ESO support as well!

Hmmm... I wonder if we can make Blizard to port ALL their games to ALL OS no matter what...
Not a petition something that will hurt their wallets....

So far Overwatch is only playable in Windows and consoles ... so MAC users are on our side :)

I wonder if it is possible to make a "Strong" movement like for example to force everyone to stop their subscription or Stop playing any Blizzard Games for maybe 2-3 Month unless we got a word from Blizzard that ALL their games will be playable to ALL OS ?? :D

Lets say if we throw out a lot of bombs at social media, for example a Banner that says:

7/7/2017
EVERYONE STOPS PLAYING BLIZZARD GAMES
FOR A MONTH
- LETS STOP THE MONOPOLY!!! -
SUPPORT ALL OS

Do you thing Blizzard will get scared if social Media push them over? or they are going to wait for that date 7/7/2017 to see what will happen? :P

If one of the big figures in gaming (like TB, for instance) takes up our cause there could be a change. But that's not very likely to happen, so yeah...

It's more likely Windows users will see the banners, not know what it's all about, and shrug it off.

Native or not interested

The only issue is MANY games will never in a million years see a Linux port. And for developers of other games to get interested in making native Linux games, more people will need to use Linux, if WineD3D11 efforts help bring more people to Linux then its good overall. Plus there has been developers that used wine to port their games over with great success so I wouldn't be quick to trash it just yet.

I just wish Wine development wasn't so damn slow, I think that is what does the damage more then anything else. D3D11 should have been at the level of DX9 is with Wine atm...


Last edited by TheRiddick on 13 December 2016 at 1:26 am UTC

I'm with Kimyrielle. It's quite rare that I'll purchase Windows-only games these days, but there might be one or two a year which I cannot resist, which is why I went back to dual-booting - just for those couple of games. Currently, that's Far Cry Primal and Doom. Last year, it was Grey Goo. However Doom and Grey Goo are looking very close to running nicely under Wine. I also went back to Windows for playing Dying Light for a bit because the GNU/Linux performance on AMDGPU-Pro was just too horrible (and the game doesn't work with Mesa). Probably Dying Light under Wine would run quicker when it is able.

If Wine was able to run those one or two must-play games for me each year, and Vulkan games were out so I could make use of both of my GPUs (since CrossFire under GNU/Linux isn't a thing since AMD dropped fglrx), I wouldn't need a Windows install on my gaming machine. Which in practice might well mean I can delete it again in around 12 months.

My only gripe with using Wine over just taking a minute to restart into Windows is performance. The games I would want to play that are Windows only typically run like garbage unless you want to play in ultralow at 720p. And I don't have a powerful computer to play a game that runs like shit but is pretty/runs fine but looks like shit. High settings and 60FPS or bust.

And unless Overwatch can run well in Wine, I'll keep rebooting to Windows to play it. Though to be fair, I don't do that very often simply because I won't do it unless I know I'll be playing Windows only games for a while.

Wine? No thanks. If Blizzard isn't going to make a native client, then i, like many others here i'm sure, will not be playing their games.

And i played all of them from the classics like WCI & II to about 5 years in WoW. So i'm not a stranger to their games.

But i'm also not a stranger to their ignorance of the Linux community.


Last edited by [email protected] on 13 December 2016 at 6:25 am UTC

Always the same discussion under every article to do with Wine... Wine is bad; no it's good; to dual-boot or not to dual-boot, that is the conundrum. No-one has said anything original on the subject in what seems like years, and it all has so precious little to do with the topic of the article. The word "wine" is such a trigger around here.

Okay, got that off my chest. Rant done. Caffeine depleted, need a refill.

Overwatch... Now if there's one game I'd bother to try to go through the messy Wine chaos to try to get working, it's that game. At least if it (is reported to) run well.

I think I like Tracer in this outfit.

Nice to see so many Wine-Haters and pro Dual-Boot comments out there.

Honestly I won't even try to reply to this and that.. Everyone is free to type whatever it thinks.

I would just like to point out a few things to make this and the future discussions about Wine more clear.
(Also notice that these discussions always end up like the Windows vs Linux ones, we just miss a Meraco-like troll to complete the party).

On one side you have the haters, that are mostly Nvidia users and I guess never really learn how to use Wine and probably expected too much from it. I cannot exclude that some didn't even try Wine Staging.
You can expect every sort of comment, like: Wine development is too slow, a Window$ partition is better, Wine is cancer for Linux, etc..

On the other side there are the supporters who are a mix of Nvidia and AMD users.
They understand how helpful Wine is and appreciate that it is free and open source, a fact that beats the "slow" development or the performance issue. Actually they are able to get the most out of Wine since they know how to properly use it (or are willing to learn).
Most AMD users are on this side and I think they initially weren't expecting much but then got totally blasted by the greatness of Wine Gallium Nine.

Basically every discussion is going to end up with people blinding hating Wine and each other. I'm personally out of this bullshit..

I think here is to understand that we won't get more games by teaching ethics to developers/publishers but by having more people using Linux (without Dual-Booting).
Petitions and the various "+1" are somehow helpful but games won't be developed with Linux in mind if developers/publishers see no profit in it.
Wine is actually helpful since it boost the games that run on Mac/Linux, so it helps not booting into Window$ or even installing it.
Do not expect too much from the Gaming Industry, they go where the $$$ are..
If you explain to a 6 yo kid that most of the games are developed using closed-platform software instead of multi-platform he, with his innocent mind, probably won't understand why this is happening and find all the story unethical, paradoxical and unreal.

at the end:

Wine = more games running on Linux = less/no Dual-Boot needs = more people using Linux = more people asking for native games = profit

I shamelessly put a link where you can watch 100+ games running on Linux with Wine (AMD+Gallium Nine and Nvidia+Nvenc)


Last edited by manero666 on 13 December 2016 at 12:21 pm UTC