Recently Wine 2.0-rc1 has been released as the next step towards another major stable release of Wine. Additionally, the Wine developers have talked about ongoing Direct3D 11 development and getting Overwatch to work.
First of all, the Wine 2.0-rc1 changelog:
- Bug fix update of the Mono engine.
- Support for IDN name resolution.
- Many more Shader Model 5 operations.
- Still more fixes in the regression tests.
- Various bug fixes.
The more interesting code hasn't yet landed in Wine or Wine-Staging yet, but it has got to the point where Overwatch seems to load up as shown by this screenshot the Wine developers provided:
As seen here.
It sounds like they still have some ways to go, but it's an impressive development. I've seen a lot of people say they would love to be able to play Overwatch on Linux, and using Wine is better for us than people dual-booting. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
First of all, the Wine 2.0-rc1 changelog:
- Bug fix update of the Mono engine.
- Support for IDN name resolution.
- Many more Shader Model 5 operations.
- Still more fixes in the regression tests.
- Various bug fixes.
The more interesting code hasn't yet landed in Wine or Wine-Staging yet, but it has got to the point where Overwatch seems to load up as shown by this screenshot the Wine developers provided:
As seen here.
It sounds like they still have some ways to go, but it's an impressive development. I've seen a lot of people say they would love to be able to play Overwatch on Linux, and using Wine is better for us than people dual-booting. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Kimyrielle Dec 13, 2016
I usually refrain from buying games these days unless they come with a Linux port as well. But I am willing to make 1 or 2 exceptions per year if I -really- want the game. Fallout 4 was last year's. I don't think I had one this year. But I -am- glad that Wine is capable of running SWTOR in Linux, so I don't have to boot into Windows to get my MMO fix. Maybe the Wine guys can fix the broken ESO support as well!
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Quoting: wolfyrionHmmm... I wonder if we can make Blizard to port ALL their games to ALL OS no matter what...
Not a petition something that will hurt their wallets....
So far Overwatch is only playable in Windows and consoles ... so MAC users are on our side :)
I wonder if it is possible to make a "Strong" movement like for example to force everyone to stop their subscription or Stop playing any Blizzard Games for maybe 2-3 Month unless we got a word from Blizzard that ALL their games will be playable to ALL OS ?? :D
Lets say if we throw out a lot of bombs at social media, for example a Banner that says:
7/7/2017
EVERYONE STOPS PLAYING BLIZZARD GAMES
FOR A MONTH
- LETS STOP THE MONOPOLY!!! -
SUPPORT ALL OS
Do you thing Blizzard will get scared if social Media push them over? or they are going to wait for that date 7/7/2017 to see what will happen? :P
If one of the big figures in gaming (like TB, for instance) takes up our cause there could be a change. But that's not very likely to happen, so yeah...
It's more likely Windows users will see the banners, not know what it's all about, and shrug it off.
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TheRiddick Dec 13, 2016
Quoting: pete910Native or not interested
The only issue is MANY games will never in a million years see a Linux port. And for developers of other games to get interested in making native Linux games, more people will need to use Linux, if WineD3D11 efforts help bring more people to Linux then its good overall. Plus there has been developers that used wine to port their games over with great success so I wouldn't be quick to trash it just yet.
I just wish Wine development wasn't so damn slow, I think that is what does the damage more then anything else. D3D11 should have been at the level of DX9 is with Wine atm...
Last edited by TheRiddick on 13 December 2016 at 1:26 am UTC
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boltronics Dec 13, 2016
I'm with Kimyrielle. It's quite rare that I'll purchase Windows-only games these days, but there might be one or two a year which I cannot resist, which is why I went back to dual-booting - just for those couple of games. Currently, that's Far Cry Primal and Doom. Last year, it was Grey Goo. However Doom and Grey Goo are looking very close to running nicely under Wine. I also went back to Windows for playing Dying Light for a bit because the GNU/Linux performance on AMDGPU-Pro was just too horrible (and the game doesn't work with Mesa). Probably Dying Light under Wine would run quicker when it is able.
If Wine was able to run those one or two must-play games for me each year, and Vulkan games were out so I could make use of both of my GPUs (since CrossFire under GNU/Linux isn't a thing since AMD dropped fglrx), I wouldn't need a Windows install on my gaming machine. Which in practice might well mean I can delete it again in around 12 months.
If Wine was able to run those one or two must-play games for me each year, and Vulkan games were out so I could make use of both of my GPUs (since CrossFire under GNU/Linux isn't a thing since AMD dropped fglrx), I wouldn't need a Windows install on my gaming machine. Which in practice might well mean I can delete it again in around 12 months.
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My only gripe with using Wine over just taking a minute to restart into Windows is performance. The games I would want to play that are Windows only typically run like garbage unless you want to play in ultralow at 720p. And I don't have a powerful computer to play a game that runs like shit but is pretty/runs fine but looks like shit. High settings and 60FPS or bust.
And unless Overwatch can run well in Wine, I'll keep rebooting to Windows to play it. Though to be fair, I don't do that very often simply because I won't do it unless I know I'll be playing Windows only games for a while.
And unless Overwatch can run well in Wine, I'll keep rebooting to Windows to play it. Though to be fair, I don't do that very often simply because I won't do it unless I know I'll be playing Windows only games for a while.
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[email protected] Dec 13, 2016
Wine? No thanks. If Blizzard isn't going to make a native client, then i, like many others here i'm sure, will not be playing their games.
And i played all of them from the classics like WCI & II to about 5 years in WoW. So i'm not a stranger to their games.
But i'm also not a stranger to their ignorance of the Linux community.
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And i played all of them from the classics like WCI & II to about 5 years in WoW. So i'm not a stranger to their games.
But i'm also not a stranger to their ignorance of the Linux community.
Last edited by [email protected] on 13 December 2016 at 6:25 am UTC
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Always the same discussion under every article to do with Wine... Wine is bad; no it's good; to dual-boot or not to dual-boot, that is the conundrum. No-one has said anything original on the subject in what seems like years, and it all has so precious little to do with the topic of the article. The word "wine" is such a trigger around here.
Okay, got that off my chest. Rant done. Caffeine depleted, need a refill.
Okay, got that off my chest. Rant done. Caffeine depleted, need a refill.
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Overwatch... Now if there's one game I'd bother to try to go through the messy Wine chaos to try to get working, it's that game. At least if it (is reported to) run well.
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Nice to see so many Wine-Haters and pro Dual-Boot comments out there.
Honestly I won't even try to reply to this and that.. Everyone is free to type whatever it thinks.
I would just like to point out a few things to make this and the future discussions about Wine more clear.
(Also notice that these discussions always end up like the Windows vs Linux ones, we just miss a Meraco-like troll to complete the party).
On one side you have the haters, that are mostly Nvidia users and I guess never really learn how to use Wine and probably expected too much from it. I cannot exclude that some didn't even try Wine Staging.
You can expect every sort of comment, like: Wine development is too slow, a Window$ partition is better, Wine is cancer for Linux, etc..
On the other side there are the supporters who are a mix of Nvidia and AMD users.
They understand how helpful Wine is and appreciate that it is free and open source, a fact that beats the "slow" development or the performance issue. Actually they are able to get the most out of Wine since they know how to properly use it (or are willing to learn).
Most AMD users are on this side and I think they initially weren't expecting much but then got totally blasted by the greatness of Wine Gallium Nine.
Basically every discussion is going to end up with people blinding hating Wine and each other. I'm personally out of this bullshit..
I think here is to understand that we won't get more games by teaching ethics to developers/publishers but by having more people using Linux (without Dual-Booting).
Petitions and the various "+1" are somehow helpful but games won't be developed with Linux in mind if developers/publishers see no profit in it.
Wine is actually helpful since it boost the games that run on Mac/Linux, so it helps not booting into Window$ or even installing it.
Do not expect too much from the Gaming Industry, they go where the $$$ are..
If you explain to a 6 yo kid that most of the games are developed using closed-platform software instead of multi-platform he, with his innocent mind, probably won't understand why this is happening and find all the story unethical, paradoxical and unreal.
at the end:
Wine = more games running on Linux = less/no Dual-Boot needs = more people using Linux = more people asking for native games = profit
I shamelessly put a link where you can watch 100+ games running on Linux with Wine (AMD+Gallium Nine and Nvidia+Nvenc)
Last edited by manero666 on 13 December 2016 at 12:21 pm UTC
Honestly I won't even try to reply to this and that.. Everyone is free to type whatever it thinks.
I would just like to point out a few things to make this and the future discussions about Wine more clear.
(Also notice that these discussions always end up like the Windows vs Linux ones, we just miss a Meraco-like troll to complete the party).
On one side you have the haters, that are mostly Nvidia users and I guess never really learn how to use Wine and probably expected too much from it. I cannot exclude that some didn't even try Wine Staging.
You can expect every sort of comment, like: Wine development is too slow, a Window$ partition is better, Wine is cancer for Linux, etc..
On the other side there are the supporters who are a mix of Nvidia and AMD users.
They understand how helpful Wine is and appreciate that it is free and open source, a fact that beats the "slow" development or the performance issue. Actually they are able to get the most out of Wine since they know how to properly use it (or are willing to learn).
Most AMD users are on this side and I think they initially weren't expecting much but then got totally blasted by the greatness of Wine Gallium Nine.
Basically every discussion is going to end up with people blinding hating Wine and each other. I'm personally out of this bullshit..
I think here is to understand that we won't get more games by teaching ethics to developers/publishers but by having more people using Linux (without Dual-Booting).
Petitions and the various "+1" are somehow helpful but games won't be developed with Linux in mind if developers/publishers see no profit in it.
Wine is actually helpful since it boost the games that run on Mac/Linux, so it helps not booting into Window$ or even installing it.
Do not expect too much from the Gaming Industry, they go where the $$$ are..
If you explain to a 6 yo kid that most of the games are developed using closed-platform software instead of multi-platform he, with his innocent mind, probably won't understand why this is happening and find all the story unethical, paradoxical and unreal.
at the end:
Wine = more games running on Linux = less/no Dual-Boot needs = more people using Linux = more people asking for native games = profit
I shamelessly put a link where you can watch 100+ games running on Linux with Wine (AMD+Gallium Nine and Nvidia+Nvenc)
Last edited by manero666 on 13 December 2016 at 12:21 pm UTC
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