Valve have put up SteamVR for Linux officially in Beta form and they are keen to stress that this is a development release.
You will need to run the latest Steam Beta Client for it to work at all, so be sure to opt-in if you want to play around with it.
VR on Linux will exclusively use Vulkan, so it's going to be a pretty good push for Vulkan if VR becomes more popular. Vulkan is likely one of the pieces of the puzzle that held it back, since Vulkan itself and the drivers are still so new.
On NVIDIA, you need to have the 375.27.10 "Developer Beta Driver", which can be found here. There's also this PPA for Ubuntu users. It's likely it needs some newer Vulkan extensions not found in the current stable drivers.
For AMD GPU owners, you need a very recent build of the open source radv driver (Mesa), Valve provide this pre-release on their github page.
Intel GPUs are not supported and it's probable it will be a long time until they are, since VR generally requires some beefy hardware to run smoothly. It's possible they may work in future, but I imagine the Intel 'anv' Vulkan driver needs more work done.
Also, you will likely need some updated udev rules, but all of that and more can be read about on their github page for it.
It's exciting to finally see VR on Linux starting to become a real reality now. I just wish the hardware wasn't so damn expensive. It will likely be a long time before I can afford a headset myself to review, but hopefully someone can send us a review unit to hold onto.
Thanks for tweeting it to me Dennis.
You will need to run the latest Steam Beta Client for it to work at all, so be sure to opt-in if you want to play around with it.
VR on Linux will exclusively use Vulkan, so it's going to be a pretty good push for Vulkan if VR becomes more popular. Vulkan is likely one of the pieces of the puzzle that held it back, since Vulkan itself and the drivers are still so new.
On NVIDIA, you need to have the 375.27.10 "Developer Beta Driver", which can be found here. There's also this PPA for Ubuntu users. It's likely it needs some newer Vulkan extensions not found in the current stable drivers.
For AMD GPU owners, you need a very recent build of the open source radv driver (Mesa), Valve provide this pre-release on their github page.
Intel GPUs are not supported and it's probable it will be a long time until they are, since VR generally requires some beefy hardware to run smoothly. It's possible they may work in future, but I imagine the Intel 'anv' Vulkan driver needs more work done.
Also, you will likely need some updated udev rules, but all of that and more can be read about on their github page for it.
It's exciting to finally see VR on Linux starting to become a real reality now. I just wish the hardware wasn't so damn expensive. It will likely be a long time before I can afford a headset myself to review, but hopefully someone can send us a review unit to hold onto.
Thanks for tweeting it to me Dennis.
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Quoting: TheRiddickThey have a driver and software for their headset, that is doing the thing for them. You actually need to look deeper and I won't be holding your hand, if you don't believe me then fine whatever I don't care.
Sorry but I just won't believe a random person on the internet over having done my own research unless you provide some proof for what you're claiming. Meanwhile the information that real 4k is only at 30Hz is all over the place if you just do a simple search although the device manufacturer doesn't like to advertise this fact for a reason I think we can all understand.
I think it's best to inform people so that they won't be disappointed if they get Pimax with the false assumption they're just going to get it rendering at the native resolution which is strongly implied with the marketing for this device. They only enabled the 4k @ 30 FPS in a later update after it being requested too.
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Was just to get you started so you'd know what headset I'm talking about, there is reviews and videos about the headset and some talk about the rendering system they are using, I can't remember exactly which link.
There is not much different in the image of the left eye vs right, and in a 3d space you can render a slightly wider (ever so slightly) image and offset that image depending on the eye that sees it, this means you can just render a single scene and image.
Its not rocket science! People have been doing it since the 60s if I remember correctly with aerial photography, why people treat it like some magical beast of burden is beyond me!!!!!
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There is not much different in the image of the left eye vs right, and in a 3d space you can render a slightly wider (ever so slightly) image and offset that image depending on the eye that sees it, this means you can just render a single scene and image.
Its not rocket science! People have been doing it since the 60s if I remember correctly with aerial photography, why people treat it like some magical beast of burden is beyond me!!!!!
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Quoting: TheRiddickThere is not much different in the image of the left eye vs right, and in a 3d space you can render a slightly wider (ever so slightly) image and offset that image depending on the eye that sees it, this means you can just render a single scene and image.
"Not much different" still means different. You can't just pan two section of a single image and get a 3D effect. That is not possible.
Maybe this company claims to have created an algorithm which tries to recreate the 3D scene and generates two different looking images from one. But... why would we want that? There are already companies who claimed that and if I remember correctly, it looked like artificial shit.
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I say again, that is how stereoscopic aerial photography works, you have two cameras with slightly different positions that allow for the 3d effect to happen. The work is done by the brain. s3d on PC is done the same way it just comes down to how each slightly varied image is presented to the viewer (such as red/blue, shutter glasses, or in VR sense direct LCD separation.
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Well, i had many problems, first not detect my lighthouses. After it, i restarted, and then them has been detected. My room setting wizard crashed while configuring it. Worked at next time. Tutorial doesn't start. And destination hangs after some time. Very fustrating :P
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Quoting: TheRiddickI say again, that is how stereoscopic aerial photography works, you have two cameras with slightly different positions that allow for the 3d effect to happen. The work is done by the brain. s3d on PC is done the same way it just comes down to how each slightly varied image is presented to the viewer (such as red/blue, shutter glasses, or in VR sense direct LCD separation.
I absolutely agree. Every single one of those things use two images. With just one, it wouldn't work.
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So.. comparing something someone has read about specs that a company claims vs someone who owns a Vive already and has tried one of the heaviest games, Elite: Dangerous, and trying to get smooth framerates and acceptable display resolution with tweaking super sampling, I can say with pretty good authority that it currently is not possible to drive that game onto double 4k screens without yacking.
Specs of my machine;
Asus STRIX 1080GTX OC
32gb DDR4 RAM
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
It's not the 'slightly different images' that drives VR, that's for stereoscopic display. Hell my Note 4 can handle that, and does pre-rendered scenes quite nicely. But try adding all the other things in that make the Vive great, tracking, interaction, etc. Being able to drop straight to the floor without having the visual output stutter for even a second is unacceptable performance. Hell, I was trying to watch a movie without much movement of my head, and Big Screen froze and it was disorienting as hell!
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Specs of my machine;
Asus STRIX 1080GTX OC
32gb DDR4 RAM
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
It's not the 'slightly different images' that drives VR, that's for stereoscopic display. Hell my Note 4 can handle that, and does pre-rendered scenes quite nicely. But try adding all the other things in that make the Vive great, tracking, interaction, etc. Being able to drop straight to the floor without having the visual output stutter for even a second is unacceptable performance. Hell, I was trying to watch a movie without much movement of my head, and Big Screen froze and it was disorienting as hell!
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I dunno how elite performs at 4k but the Vive expects 90fps, so if you can't get that standard with the 1080gtx then yeah its a issue. Its not really designed around VR so I don't even know if it allows for the use of the Nvidia VR boosting tech.
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The problem is that NOTHING is using the nVidia VR boosting tech, outside of perhaps the nvidia funhouse. Which is actually really fun and a good example of how to optimize things.
While I personally was pointing out to an ex-coworker, that even the GPUs are implementing direct features for VR support to help out, it doesn't mean anything is going to adopt proprietary interfaces for doing so.
While I personally was pointing out to an ex-coworker, that even the GPUs are implementing direct features for VR support to help out, it doesn't mean anything is going to adopt proprietary interfaces for doing so.
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Don't expect much performance from games that are not built for VR such as titles on the oculus store and such that say VR ONLY.
In saying that the Serious Sam VR game should be fine at 4k resolution I would think.. even thought the screen is 1200p, IMO you'd be better up-scaling to 1440p.
In saying that the Serious Sam VR game should be fine at 4k resolution I would think.. even thought the screen is 1200p, IMO you'd be better up-scaling to 1440p.
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