Torment: Tides of Numenera [Steam, GOG, Official Site], the big new RPG from inXile Entertainment has released with day-1 Linux support.
I spoke to inXile about requesting a Linux review key and they sent me on to the publisher, Techland. The good news is that they've agreed to supply a key. The bad news is that there was no Linux version available before release, so it will take me a short while to get even a basic report out on it.
Still, thank you Techland and inXile for providing a key for me, I am grateful!
BTRE's Note: DrMcCoy asked if the Dynamic Cloth option worked, as the middleware did not appear to support it. I checked for myself in-game and it seems that the devs have, thankfully, sorted it out. The toggle does change the graphical behavior of cloths though it's a somewhat subtle effect unless you're zoomed in close to the characters.
About the game
Torment: Tides of Numenera is the thematic successor to Planescape: Torment, one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved role-playing games of all time. Torment: Tides of Numenera is a single-player, isometric, narrative-driven role-playing game set in Monte Cook’s Numenera universe, and brought to you by the creative team behind Planescape: Torment and the award-winning Wasteland 2. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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I spoke to inXile about requesting a Linux review key and they sent me on to the publisher, Techland. The good news is that they've agreed to supply a key. The bad news is that there was no Linux version available before release, so it will take me a short while to get even a basic report out on it.
Still, thank you Techland and inXile for providing a key for me, I am grateful!
BTRE's Note: DrMcCoy asked if the Dynamic Cloth option worked, as the middleware did not appear to support it. I checked for myself in-game and it seems that the devs have, thankfully, sorted it out. The toggle does change the graphical behavior of cloths though it's a somewhat subtle effect unless you're zoomed in close to the characters.
About the game
Torment: Tides of Numenera is the thematic successor to Planescape: Torment, one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved role-playing games of all time. Torment: Tides of Numenera is a single-player, isometric, narrative-driven role-playing game set in Monte Cook’s Numenera universe, and brought to you by the creative team behind Planescape: Torment and the award-winning Wasteland 2. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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"ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...", come on, really? The scope if a billion years is just crazy. Give us something more believable, like a few thousand years or a few 10 of thousand of years. It's obvious they want for shock factor and, "look how awesome this is!". Which really worries me, cause old infinity RPG and similar isometric RPG, even though they had fantastical stories, they still were rather down to earth, and somewhat believable.
That aside, I don't think it will be a bad game, it just worries me a bit when developers say things like this. Like David Gaider's "When you press a button something awesome have to happen. Button, awesome. Button! Awesome!" - the fall of Bioware.
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That aside, I don't think it will be a bad game, it just worries me a bit when developers say things like this. Like David Gaider's "When you press a button something awesome have to happen. Button, awesome. Button! Awesome!" - the fall of Bioware.
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Stupendous Man Feb 28, 2017
"ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...", come on, really? ...How is that any different from "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away"? I agree, it's ludicrous, but come on, it's fantasy! ;-)
I'm downloading Torment as of this moment, it will be interesting to see if it even launches (I don't have too high hopes, as it's the first we see of the Linux port).
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"ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...", come on, really? ...How is that any different from "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away"? I agree, it's ludicrous, but come on, it's fantasy! ;-)
I'm downloading Torment as of this moment, it will be interesting to see if it even launches (I don't have too high hopes, as it's the first we see of the Linux port).
Why not? inXile's Wasteland 2 came with day one support and worked without any hiccups.
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The point of the crazy scope is that Numenera is a world where so much time has passed that for example ancient technology is indistinguishable from magic. Here's Monte's explanation: http://www.numenera.com/a-billion-years/
"ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...", come on, really? The scope if a billion years is just crazy. Give us something more believable, like a few thousand years or a few 10 of thousand of years. It's obvious they want for shock factor and, "look how awesome this is!". Which really worries me, cause old infinity RPG and similar isometric RPG, even though they had fantastical stories, they still were rather down to earth, and somewhat believable.
That aside, I don't think it will be a bad game, it just worries me a bit when developers say things like this. Like David Gaider's "When you press a button something awesome have to happen. Button, awesome. Button! Awesome!" - the fall of Bioware.
The point of the crazy scope is that Numenera is a world where so much time has passed that for example ancient technology is indistinguishable from magic. Here's Monte's explanation: http://www.numenera.com/a-billion-years/
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Wow that story sounded like a GREAT setting for a game! Man, it even looks like we can play as a female hero too. No set decision on a beefcake. Lovely!
This MUST be purchased - after I get confirmed it's as good as it looks.
Oh come on, it's humor, man. What does it matter. It's not like the rest of the story had any kind of slight realism to it either.
I look forward to take a step one BILLION years ahead. :D
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This MUST be purchased - after I get confirmed it's as good as it looks.
"ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...", come on, really? The scope if a billion years is just crazy.
Oh come on, it's humor, man. What does it matter. It's not like the rest of the story had any kind of slight realism to it either.
I look forward to take a step one BILLION years ahead. :D
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Well, 10 thousand years would be enough to forget current technology (and yet have it somehow usable). One million years would be good too. But one billion years is 1/4 of the current lifetime of the Solar System. It’s 1/3 of the time there’s been life in it. It is five thousand times as long as humans have existed on Earth (first homo sapiens showed up on Earth ca. 200,000 years ago). It is not unreasonable to believe humans won’t be on Earth in a billion years, and if some intelligent species is here, it will be totally different kind of animal than we are, because evolution. But in a billion years the Earth might just be inhabitable or might not exist at all as well.
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Stupendous Man Feb 28, 2017
Is anyone else having the problem with the game never finishing downloading? I'm at 99% and Steam just keeps trying to download the last 0.1% but repeatedly failing (connection timeout). This is getting frustrating...
EDIT: After the nth attempt it finally downloaded and the game actually starts! Now to find some time to actually play it...
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EDIT: After the nth attempt it finally downloaded and the game actually starts! Now to find some time to actually play it...
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That's something that comes from the Numenera pen & paper RPG.
And yes, there have been at least 8 different civilizations, not all of them human. At least one teraformed the planet, at least one traveled to distant stars, at least one contacted different dimensions.
Why there's humans again in the Ninth World, nobody knows. That's kind of the point, that there's countless wonders, countless weird things and nobody knows why. There's even a whole section in the GM part of the Numenera core rulebook that says "keeping it weird" is one of the fundamental jobs for the GM.
Also, the long timespan is supposed to provide you a way to handwave technical explanations away. You can introduce weird tech, weird creatures, weird situations without having to give an in-depth treatise on how exactly it works, internally. The people in the world wouldn't know and have no way of knowing it to begin with (and unless they're part of the Order of Truth, they wouldn't necessarily care that much either). The focus of a Numenera game isn't supposed to be on 100% hard SF tech, but on the characters, on personal stories.
And yes, there have been at least 8 different civilizations, not all of them human. At least one teraformed the planet, at least one traveled to distant stars, at least one contacted different dimensions.
Why there's humans again in the Ninth World, nobody knows. That's kind of the point, that there's countless wonders, countless weird things and nobody knows why. There's even a whole section in the GM part of the Numenera core rulebook that says "keeping it weird" is one of the fundamental jobs for the GM.
Also, the long timespan is supposed to provide you a way to handwave technical explanations away. You can introduce weird tech, weird creatures, weird situations without having to give an in-depth treatise on how exactly it works, internally. The people in the world wouldn't know and have no way of knowing it to begin with (and unless they're part of the Order of Truth, they wouldn't necessarily care that much either). The focus of a Numenera game isn't supposed to be on 100% hard SF tech, but on the characters, on personal stories.
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Thanks a lot for that backdrop, doc! And here I thought they were just joking :-)
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psycho_driver Feb 28, 2017
If the writing is in line with the original PS: Torment, the game itself will have a very serious (and superb) story. There will be sprinkles of humor in how the character and npcs interact from time to time.
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buenaventura Feb 28, 2017
It seems to only support NVIDIA as of now? I have a GCN 1.1 Mullins AMD GPU, with 1gb RAM, and I am hopeful that it would suffice (Wasteland 2 worked all right), but I cant be sure I guess.
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"ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...", come on, really? ...How is that any different from "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away"? I agree, it's ludicrous, but come on, it's fantasy! ;-)
Fantasy/=/ridiculous. Just because something is fantasy it doesn't mean that you should throw everything that makese sense out the window.
"A long time ago in a galaxy far far away". I agree that this thing is silly, but it's not half as silly as saying "ONE BILLION YEARS INTO THE FUTURE...". "A long time" ago isn't specified to be something ridiculous. Our sun is going to die out in a few billion years. Even with millions of years, humans have problems dealing with the scope of it, or even 10s of thousands.
If they had just taken it as few 10s of thousands years ago it would have achieved the same effect, just wouldn't be as retarded.
The point of the crazy scope is that Numenera is a world where so much time has passed that for example ancient technology is indistinguishable from magic. Here's Monte's explanation: http://www.numenera.com/a-billion-years/-
But even 10s of thousands of "years" is crazy scope. A lot can happen in that time. I don't accept that explanation. Monte just lost respect. The best settings are the ones who stays away from dealing with crazy amount of years, and the worst ones are the ones who treat years as a shock effect to make their setting "awesome".
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Aryvandaar, you fundamentally miss the point, but fine, keeping being wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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buenaventura Feb 28, 2017
I mean sure a billion years is UTTERLY IMPROBABLE, but consider...
ENGLISH.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES? That a random alternate universe happens to speak the same language as THIS WORLD??!?1
srsly who kickstarted this unrealistic garbage lol...
;)
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ENGLISH.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES? That a random alternate universe happens to speak the same language as THIS WORLD??!?1
srsly who kickstarted this unrealistic garbage lol...
;)
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They don't speak English. The most commonly spoken language is "The Truth", a logic-based language, easy to teach and learn, propagated by the Order of Truth.
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Aryvandaar, you fundamentally miss the point, but fine, keeping being wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's just my opinion. I'm not saying that Cook is wrong in writing the setting like this with the scope of years, only that I don't like it. And it doesn't mean that I think that the entire setting is bad.
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buenaventura Feb 28, 2017
They don't speak English. The most commonly spoken language is "The Truth", a logic-based language, easy to teach and learn, propagated by the Order of Truth.
Touché my friend, touché.
Seriously, I really want this game, I will have to wait for mega sales though :(
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Anyway, getting things back on track :)
It plays quite well in Linux, haven't had any real issues so far. Only thing of note is that sometimes the shortcuts icons (for inventory, character sheet etc) sometimes can be picky about when they are highlighted.
I'd forgotten how much reading was involved playing the previous Torment, and this is no different. It's like sitting down with a good book.
It plays quite well in Linux, haven't had any real issues so far. Only thing of note is that sometimes the shortcuts icons (for inventory, character sheet etc) sometimes can be picky about when they are highlighted.
I'd forgotten how much reading was involved playing the previous Torment, and this is no different. It's like sitting down with a good book.
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I'll pick it up once it's a bit cheaper. I enjoyed Planescape Torment so much that I have to buy this one.
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It seems to only support NVIDIA as of now? I have a GCN 1.1 Mullins AMD GPU, with 1gb RAM, and I am hopeful that it would suffice (Wasteland 2 worked all right), but I cant be sure I guess.
I played the EA version which I hear was about one third of the game on a Geforce 9600GT. It was very slow but they made some performance improvements after that... Looks like the game also runs poorly on an Intel HD4000 but slightly better than what I had to endure with that old Geforce. I'm hopeful that I'll be able to complete it with the integrated Intel GPU since the start was one of the worst performing parts in the old EA version and it looks like I can at least get through that just fine with it. Only problem was Pulseaudio deciding to stutter like crazy but switching to plain ALSA seemed to help. Doesn't help directly with your questions about the AMD part but at least it seems like the stated requirements aren't a hard limit.
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