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Quoting: Kalman98

Quoting: Cheeseness

Quoting: Kalman98"Current positions of the ACLU include: opposing the death penalty; supporting same-sex marriage and the right of gays to adopt; supporting birth control and abortion rights;"

Now don't get me wrong here. I'm not trying to start an argument or moral debate or any such thing. But since you asked, I am explaining. The part that I highlighted in bold there on that quote, "supporting birth control and abortion rights"... that is not what the ACLU should stand for. By supporting that, they are trying to take away the rights of infant children to live.

I feel the need to point out that the part you highlighted is about contraceptives and foetuses, and not about infant children.

It also appears that US courts have found such matters to be covered by "the Constitution and laws of the United States", and seem well within the ACLU's scope.


For whatever it's worth, as an outsider to the U.S., I've been pleased to see developers step forward like this in a time when issues they feel strongly about deserve attention, and it's been nice to see the positive response that the gaming community has given. Cardboard Computer have also been doing a similar thing with some more transparent numbers on what they've raised, and they've exceeded their target $2k by more than 6 times.

This will probably be my last comment here, as this is not the topic of this thread, but I do not agree with you there. A child is a child, whether it is born or not. It is alive, no matter what you call it. I am not questioning whether abortion is legal - of course I know that it is, and this saddens me greatly. Many things have been legal in the past that most do not agree with now.

I would like to mention one last time, I have no intentions of an argument here. I have explained myself, and I do not think there is any more for me to say. Thank you for your time in reading it.

I'm going to quickly add a clarifying post here too since I'm not sure that I articulated my points well enough for them to be understood.

The term "infant" refers to a child that is physically separate from its mother, after birth and not within the womb.

That foetuses are independent lifeforms that have and deserve rights is certainly a perspective, and while it's not one I agree with or condone, I don't see much value in debating that here. That perspective can't really have any bearing on birth control though, which refers to methods of preventing pregnancy from occurring in the first place.

I wasn't intending to draw attention to whether or not birth control or abortions were legal. You had seemed to suggest that access to birth control and abortion was outside of what the ACLU should be pursuing. Since the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that access to these are rights that should be afforded to U.S. citizens, they are totally within the ACLU's scope to seek to preserve and stabilise.



Veering hastily back on topic, I'm curious to hear initial impressions from people who picked up Fez during this sale and hadn't previously played it. I think it's definitely a game where first exposure has the biggest impact.

I didn't have much awareness of it when I first played it and found it to be very charming, but its scope quickly became something that I knew I didn't have time for (I've still not finished it).