Update: They have now updated their news here, you can ask for a refund. This is why I feel it's always worth pointing out, we cannot let developers break promises and think nothing of it.
Developer Gloomywood is another one to enter our naughty books, as they promised a Linux version of 2Dark during their crowdfunding. They have now release a Windows version, that has Denuvo DRM and they claim no Linux version is planned.
Their crowdfunding campaign clearly said in terms that could not be confusing to anyone:
From their forum post:
I do urge you to post in there if you're disappointed by their broken promise, we need to stop developers getting away with things like this. Just remember to be polite about it, manners cost nothing.
Naughty, naughty developers. Their crowdfunding campaign never mentioned they would be using any form of DRM either. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Developer Gloomywood is another one to enter our naughty books, as they promised a Linux version of 2Dark during their crowdfunding. They have now release a Windows version, that has Denuvo DRM and they claim no Linux version is planned.
Their crowdfunding campaign clearly said in terms that could not be confusing to anyone:
QuoteWhat platform will the game be for?
We are currently creating a version of 2Dark forPC, Mac and Linux. We may also create a version for console or tablet, but we can't make any promises about that right now.
From their forum post:
QuoteHello guys,
Sorry, but there is no Linux version planned yet: /.
I do urge you to post in there if you're disappointed by their broken promise, we need to stop developers getting away with things like this. Just remember to be polite about it, manners cost nothing.
Naughty, naughty developers. Their crowdfunding campaign never mentioned they would be using any form of DRM either. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Arf... I never crowdfund anything, but I was having expectations for this game! Will quickly remove that from my whishlist! >.<
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I guess people could ask for a refund? Because they advertised a feature they did not deliver?
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They even promised a drm free version and then they release the game with denuvo without drmfree and without linux version.
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Honestly, I'm not disappointed at all. Learned that Windows developers are untruthful bitches long time ago. It's not even their fault, really... They just lack knowledge, skill and consistency. Period.
I'm waiting for a campaign that will say "knowing the marketing strategies of our competitors, we don't expect Linux community to support the title at all but we will release for Linux first anyway because it's what we use everyday and what we know best".
I'm waiting for a campaign that will say "knowing the marketing strategies of our competitors, we don't expect Linux community to support the title at all but we will release for Linux first anyway because it's what we use everyday and what we know best".
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rustybroomhandle 13 Mar 2017
Baaaaad. This is why people sometimes get so cranky about crowdfunding. It really hurts all the legitimate and good projects on KS/gogo/etc.
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In the words of J.R.R. Tolkien: “There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery.”
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I guess people could ask for a refund? Because they advertised a feature they did not deliver?
Worth a try... didn't work for me with Carmageddon though, I was totally ignored - along with many, many others. It really is unacceptable.
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I haven't heard of this game before and never will buy it. I don't crowdfund as it is glorified panhandling with no guarantees.
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This is shameful.
I'm disgusted. I backed this project both because I'm a fan of Frédérick Raynal (Little Big Adventure/Relentless, Alone in the Dark, just to mention) AND because it was announced for Linux.
I feel this as a spit in the face, as the project page clearly announces a Linux version AND NO DRM. I indicated in the project comments that I wouldn't ask for a refund until I have more information about Linux release, but if this information is confirmed then I'll rethink my position just like they did.
I'm disgusted. I backed this project both because I'm a fan of Frédérick Raynal (Little Big Adventure/Relentless, Alone in the Dark, just to mention) AND because it was announced for Linux.
I feel this as a spit in the face, as the project page clearly announces a Linux version AND NO DRM. I indicated in the project comments that I wouldn't ask for a refund until I have more information about Linux release, but if this information is confirmed then I'll rethink my position just like they did.
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PublicNuisance 13 Mar 2017
I wouldn't touch these guys products now even if they came out with what they promised. Liars don't deserve my money.
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Avehicle7887 13 Mar 2017
Judging this thread here, there will be no DRM-Free versions of any kind either.
The publisher is a straight up close-minded one that thinks Denuvo and DRM is the key to ensure a studio remains in business. I can only say one thing to that, I hope karma gets them.
The publisher is a straight up close-minded one that thinks Denuvo and DRM is the key to ensure a studio remains in business. I can only say one thing to that, I hope karma gets them.
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This is probably due to their deal with publisher bigben interactive, apparently they forgot to check the crowdfunding promises when signing the dotted line...
Absolutely inexcusable. Compare this to how obsidian treated their backers when signing a publisher deal: Pillars of eternity got released on gog fine despite paradox entertainment refusing to publish there nowadays.
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Absolutely inexcusable. Compare this to how obsidian treated their backers when signing a publisher deal: Pillars of eternity got released on gog fine despite paradox entertainment refusing to publish there nowadays.
Last edited by emphy on 13 Mar 2017 at 12:16 pm UTC
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Pyramid scheme. Consumer rights watchdogs should be all over crowdfunding. Perhaps its time for someone to create a portfolio of all the lies and false claims to start class action.
At this point I wouldn't care if that led crowd funders to drop linux because they were not sure if they could deliver, at least you don't get ripped off and lied too.
At this point I wouldn't care if that led crowd funders to drop linux because they were not sure if they could deliver, at least you don't get ripped off and lied too.
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I am always surprised that there are no legal implications for this kind of behaviour. This is simply fraud, isn't it?
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Does this epic book of shame actually exist? Do we have a list of kickstarter projects that were funded well and didn't deliver a promised linux version? Maybe it should be brought to the attention of kickstarter themselves, in public.
For our community, I really think it would be wise to only talk about kickstarter projects that at least show some initiative. A demo or a build job as proof of care.
For our community, I really think it would be wise to only talk about kickstarter projects that at least show some initiative. A demo or a build job as proof of care.
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Does this epic book of shame actually exist? Do we have a list of kickstarter projects that were funded well and didn't deliver a promised linux version? Maybe it should be brought to the attention of kickstarter themselves, in public.Yes my book of shame does exist.
For our community, I really think it would be wise to only talk about kickstarter projects that at least show some initiative. A demo or a build job as proof of care.
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This is probably due to their deal with publisher bigben interactive, apparently they forgot to check the crowdfunding promises when signing the dotted line...
Absolutely inexcusable. Compare this to how obsidian treated their backers when signing a publisher deal: Pillars of eternity got released on gog fine despite paradox entertainment refusing to publish there nowadays.
Then again, paradox is probably one of the best-karma pubishers in the world :)
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Yes my book of shame does exist.
Well, this is a book of shame, but not a failed-kickstarter-linux-promises one.
I just crossread it and there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of kickstarter projects inside at all.
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Then add to it, it's a wiki for a reason ;)Yes my book of shame does exist.
Well, this is a book of shame, but not a failed-kickstarter-linux-promises one.
I just crossread it and there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of kickstarter projects inside at all.
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