Update: They have now updated their news here, you can ask for a refund. This is why I feel it's always worth pointing out, we cannot let developers break promises and think nothing of it.
Developer Gloomywood is another one to enter our naughty books, as they promised a Linux version of 2Dark during their crowdfunding. They have now release a Windows version, that has Denuvo DRM and they claim no Linux version is planned.
Their crowdfunding campaign clearly said in terms that could not be confusing to anyone:
From their forum post:
I do urge you to post in there if you're disappointed by their broken promise, we need to stop developers getting away with things like this. Just remember to be polite about it, manners cost nothing.
Naughty, naughty developers. Their crowdfunding campaign never mentioned they would be using any form of DRM either. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Developer Gloomywood is another one to enter our naughty books, as they promised a Linux version of 2Dark during their crowdfunding. They have now release a Windows version, that has Denuvo DRM and they claim no Linux version is planned.
Their crowdfunding campaign clearly said in terms that could not be confusing to anyone:
QuoteWhat platform will the game be for?
We are currently creating a version of 2Dark forPC, Mac and Linux. We may also create a version for console or tablet, but we can't make any promises about that right now.
From their forum post:
QuoteHello guys,
Sorry, but there is no Linux version planned yet: /.
I do urge you to post in there if you're disappointed by their broken promise, we need to stop developers getting away with things like this. Just remember to be polite about it, manners cost nothing.
Naughty, naughty developers. Their crowdfunding campaign never mentioned they would be using any form of DRM either. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Mountain Man Mar 13, 2017
Just say no to "crowdfunding" and "early access".
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Quoting: Mountain ManJust say no to "crowdfunding" and "early access".
After two to three years helping muntdefems, flesk and company write Funding Crowd articles for this site, I'm gutted to say that I (mostly) agree with you. Crowdfunding can still be profitable and satisfying if you're careful, but these days, there are few projects I'd feel comfortable backing.
It's great to score Torment: Tides of Numenera for $20, and crowdfunding used to be a pretty instrumental part of the Linux gaming scene - pushing Linux into the limelight for developers. But the risks are too great for me now.
I avoid EA for other reasons - I'm simply too busy outside of my gaming hours to care about using my gaming hours to bug fix EA titles. And my gaming hours are too valuable to waste on half-finished rubbish. Of course, there are exceptions (hello 7 Days to Die), but they're pretty rare. For me, anyway.
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If own backed this game with paypal I would suggest using their customer service to attempt to get a refund. Write the developer & publisher politely asking for a refund do to the terms of the Kickstarter not being fulfilled and be sure to to keep text copies & screenshots of all correspondence. Then if your concerns aren't resolved to your satisfaction, use the customer service form at paypal to ask for help obtaining a refund submitting the saved copies of proof of your own due diligence. Paypal successfully helped my resolve a similar issue and I received a refund about 2 weeks after I contacted paypal.
In the future don't back a crowdfunded game unless they say explicitly state in the proposal that they will be offering a Linux version and will be offering a game key to GOG or some other retail site that carries only DRM-free games. Me myself I only trust crowdfunding campaigns by developers that have kept their word on DRM-free & Linux versions of games. Also if you're in the EU try to contact other backers based in the EU for some type of class action renumeration, though I live in the US I've heard the EU has some very good consumer protection laws (much better than the US tends to have).
In the future don't back a crowdfunded game unless they say explicitly state in the proposal that they will be offering a Linux version and will be offering a game key to GOG or some other retail site that carries only DRM-free games. Me myself I only trust crowdfunding campaigns by developers that have kept their word on DRM-free & Linux versions of games. Also if you're in the EU try to contact other backers based in the EU for some type of class action renumeration, though I live in the US I've heard the EU has some very good consumer protection laws (much better than the US tends to have).
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hmm, it's a shame, looked interesting. but all this talk about broken promises seems a bit odd, because doesn't it quite clearly state in the "promises" that they MAY do a linux/mac versions but are NOT making any promises yet.. ?
or am I reading it wrong? ... just wondering..
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or am I reading it wrong? ... just wondering..
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Quoting: tofuheadhmm, it's a shame, looked interesting. but all this talk about broken promises seems a bit odd, because doesn't it quite clearly state in the "promises" that they MAY do a linux/mac versions but are NOT making any promises yet.. ?I have literally no idea what you're reading, I specifically quoted what they said in the article and it was very clear.
or am I reading it wrong? ... just wondering..
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Quoting: liamdaweQuoting: tofuheadhmm, it's a shame, looked interesting. but all this talk about broken promises seems a bit odd, because doesn't it quite clearly state in the "promises" that they MAY do a linux/mac versions but are NOT making any promises yet.. ?I have literally no idea what you're reading, I specifically quoted what they said in the article and it was very clear.
or am I reading it wrong? ... just wondering..
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Now you have to update your article - you quite clearly state
QuoteTheir crowdfunding campaign clearly said in terms that could not be confusing to anyoneAnd that's just a blatant lie. :D
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heh, I read it several times.. and apparently everytime wrongly. only now when I started quoting it I saw it! man. sorry about that, I just crawl back to my cave and continue playing Tides of Numenera that is on linux, is great, and will make me forget this ever happened.
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Hmm . . . we've seen articles about the risks of Kickstarter projects, but how about an article on how to successfully get a refund from said projects? I've seen a couple of good examples on this thread already.
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linuxjacques Mar 13, 2017
As long as there are no penalties (and only rewards) for blatant lying on crowdfunding, this will continue.
Simple game theory, I'm sorry to say, as character and honor do not enter into it.
Simple game theory, I'm sorry to say, as character and honor do not enter into it.
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I think it would be worth noting in the article that it is the publisher, Bigben interactive, and not the developer that has stated the game would not come to GNU/Linux. They are also responsible for the game being on Steam only and being shipped with Denuvo (see the statement on gloomywood website).
I think Bigben is the one to blame in this case, Gloomywood was looking for a publisher after succeeding their crowdfunding campaign (you can argue that it is unethical, but a lot of indie studios do that) and the one that got their interested was clearly a shitty one.
I love Raynal's games (LBA2 is my favorite game ever) and I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I'm still quite angry and disappointed though, I really wanted this game to be good and successful... And I can't even play it.
I think Bigben is the one to blame in this case, Gloomywood was looking for a publisher after succeeding their crowdfunding campaign (you can argue that it is unethical, but a lot of indie studios do that) and the one that got their interested was clearly a shitty one.
I love Raynal's games (LBA2 is my favorite game ever) and I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I'm still quite angry and disappointed though, I really wanted this game to be good and successful... And I can't even play it.
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