Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - A Criminal Past DLC now supports Linux & SteamOS

I am a little concerned about that, and I am not talking about deus ex itself, but about the fact that this DLC needed a "port" at all, or even additional work by feral.

also, since we are with the same publisher:

https://hitman.com/en-us/news/march-update-release-notes#

it says:The HITMAN March Update releases worldwide across PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Windows PC on March 14th 2017.
this also applies for previous updates (they release updates every 4 weeks). honestly, I have no idea how old my copy of hitman is in steamOS.

so what does this mean? that feral has work to do again, just for us to have the latest content/updates available? makes me feel like a sad 2nd class gamer again. all major platforms are supported here in that statement, linux is not, so ...well. not major, okay, but kinda abandoned.


Last edited by miro on 16 March 2017 at 4:54 pm UTC

Nice, I will pick it up as well. Thanks, Feral!

Quoting: miroI am a little concerned about that, and I am not talking about deus ex itself, but about the fact that this DLC needed a "port" at all, or even additional work by feral.

When a game adds in new levels and features you need to update the game. If it's updated then we'll need to update it on Linux too. In some cases a platform specific issue can cause a slight delay but they are usually small for games that are released at the same time.

Quoting: miroalso, since we are with the same publisher:
https://hitman.com/en-us/news/march-update-release-notes#
it says:The HITMAN March Update releases worldwide across PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Windows PC on March 14th 2017.
this also applies for previous updates (they release updates every 4 weeks). honestly, I have no idea how old my copy of hitman is in steamOS.

HITMAN has been updated every few weeks since we shipped on Linux and every single release and Elusive Target has been released at EXACTLY the same time on Linux as Windows. This has been publicised by Feral, most Linux gaming sites and the Release notes on Steam as well as the fact your Linux app has updated. :-)

Quoting: miroso what does this mean? that feral has work to do again, just for us to have the latest content/updates available?

That's how different platforms work, if an application is updated you need to move the code and data changes over. Some items and challenges are server side(so no new binary's needed on any platform) but things like Elusive Targets can also include a new binary with other bug fixes.

Quoting: miromakes me feel like a sad 2nd class gamer again. all major platforms are supported here in that statement, linux is not, so ...well. not major, okay, but kinda abandoned.

This seems a little exaggerated :( The game has same time updates & features plus full cross platform support from both the Linux and Windows developers to keep things coordinated. I'd call that major level of coordination and support which is the exact opposite of abandoned. :)


Last edited by edddeduck_feral on 16 March 2017 at 5:41 pm UTC

On my side I bought the season pass so it should be there tonight

Of course I'll buy it. Nobrainer, especially if this indeed is the last from Jensen for a while. Want every last adventure from this excellent franchise.

It's great to see this released - thank you Feral! It has good reviews on Steam too, so this should be a blast.

@edddeduck_feral

then how come that just PC or at least "Linux" or specifically steamOS is not listed in that update? Does SE care that less or what is it?

Also I am not sure about the latest state of my hitman copy, since for example I see no option in the launcher to disable the graphics-autoconfig (which restricts some detail levels above some point).
The version history stated that this feature was added into the launcher in some later release and I believe that my launcher said to be 1.01 or something. I can't tell any more, since I disabled the launcher and I see no way to enable it again. Even with simulation CRTL with my steam controller (some people say one has to hold it while the game is launching), the launcher does not show up for me.

Regarding your link at http://steamcommunity.com/app/236870/discussions/1/135511757693702225/
I read that discussions section at steam, but this posting was not there at that time. Because I saw an update for hitman on news sites, and no mention to linux.
And for the first time I see that you obviously reset the version count to 1.00, so all the previous updates were included and this caused confusion on my side, thinking that your 1.00 is in fact the windows-1.00

So I wonder: why did SE not append Linux to the platform-list as well? Couldn't they wait for you to add the changes?
My last sentence you picked up as exaggerated was meant even in that way, that this update is there now, but they do not consider it "major enough" to mention it.

I noticed the elusive targets, it's just that from a dev-view I think there are things like these targets that can be added without modifications to the app itself, like a plugin or simple additional files in some elusive-targets-directory.

I like that there is new DLC, and I may buy it; I do object to the 4.3GB update it decided to give me though, especially on my piddly 5Mbps connection; bang goes any gaming for me tonight :(

That's very cool. But I like to finish the main game first. :)

A lot of work for Feral, as some games now get regular contend updates. I played Hitman for 47h now. :)

Is the story complete now, or are there any more DLCs planned? I bought the game + season pass but haven't played it yet, waiting for it to be complete. Besides I'm now too busy with Hitman. ;-)

@miro you enable the launcher, by holding down crtl while starting the game.

Admittedly I haven't tried, but it says so in the launcher if disabling it.

edit:

Maybe I was a little too fast on the trigger. I wrote it before reading you already knew that :D


Last edited by MasterSleort on 16 March 2017 at 9:18 pm UTC

Quoting: miro@edddeduck_feral

then how come that just PC or at least "Linux" or specifically steamOS is not listed in that update? Does SE care that less or what is it?

I can't speak for anyone but myself here, but the original news post is from a completely different team, they don't speak for Feral. Feral tend to announce everything they're doing themselves, since they develop and publish their Linux ports directly.

Quoting: miroI noticed the elusive targets, it's just that from a dev-view I think there are things like these targets that can be added without modifications to the app itself, like a plugin or simple additional files in some elusive-targets-directory.

You're making a lot of assumptions about code you know nothing about, it's likely nothing close to being simple like you imagine. You have no idea what they're changing and Feral have to keep up with the work done on it, and so far have done.

I really don't get all the doom and gloom.

Is it possible to buy the DLC from Ferals website directly? If I go to the Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - A Criminal Past page and then Buy it only shows the season pass DLC as being available.

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: miro@edddeduck_feral

then how come that just PC or at least "Linux" or specifically steamOS is not listed in that update? Does SE care that less or what is it?

I can't speak for anyone but myself here, but the original news post is from a completely different team, they don't speak for Feral. Feral tend to announce everything they're doing themselves, since they develop and publish their Linux ports directly.

but feral surely received the changes committed for those updates by SE to compile them into an update, I doubt feral is maintaining and selling hitman completely on their own, so I guess there is some communication. If I was working for feral then I'd expect from SE to be involved into the (update-)releases to some high degree, to maintain same versions for everyone.

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: miroI noticed the elusive targets, it's just that from a dev-view I think there are things like these targets that can be added without modifications to the app itself, like a plugin or simple additional files in some elusive-targets-directory.

You're making a lot of assumptions about code you know nothing about, it's likely nothing close to being simple like you imagine. You have no idea what they're changing and Feral have to keep up with the work done on it, and so far have done.

I really don't get all the doom and gloom.

that assumption had a reason, let me explain why.

When I wanted to buy hitman, I read about release notes to that day, especially when I hit a bug in some contracts, where some events were not triggered properly. Then I found a release-notes-history, similar to this: https://hitman.com/updates/february-update-1-9-1

it mentions version 1.9.1 ..my hitman copy said version 1.01, this lead me to believe that there was no up2date version in use for the port and that I was basically dealing with an old hitman version. Having the "elusive targets"-contracts still available lead me to thinking of precisely that, that these missions were added in a plugin-style way, just like additional files in contract-directories. I did not say that I know how it is done, it was just an assumption, since I thought my old 1.01 copy has the newest contracts, while thinking none of the changes from 1.01->1.9.1 were committed into my release.

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all that text read, I saw it today for the first time mentioned, that hitman for linux 1.00 included all the previous updates from the windows release, which was mentioned here http://steamcommunity.com/app/236870/discussions/1/135511757693702225/ for the first time (I never heard of that merge before), and this posting is as I mentioned, one day old at the time of this posting.

I am very glad to learn that hitman-linux is the same as the other releases - I never had doubt in feral (otherwise I would not own almost all of their ports), it is just kind of weird to see that platform list with no word about linux, you can't surely tell me that you do not feel a little bit odd about this as well as I do.


Last edited by miro on 17 March 2017 at 8:27 am UTC

Cheers Feral, will be picking this up for sure :) I finished the main game a while back but have kept it installed for "just one more go"... now I feel justified!