NVIDIA have announced the 1080 Ti and it's a beast

Going AMD is the best to support the efforts made towards open source drivers, hopefully Vega will be competitive enough to get a good adoption :)

Going AMD is the best to support the efforts made towards open source drivers, hopefully Vega will be competitive enough to get a good adoption :)

I've actually been wondering how well Vega will be supported on Linux. I've felt locked in to Nvidia ownership for way too long and the insane price hikes going into the 10x0 series made me really wish that AMD performed on Linux just as well. It will be a case of wait and see I guess

This will cost around €800 where I live, according to past experience. Man, that's a lot of money...

This will cost around €800 where I live, according to past experience. Man, that's a lot of money...

Indeed, if it would actually be $699, I'd have me one for my next build (unless Vega comes out on top before then). But I fear that the practical versions (higher clocks, better (and less noisy) coolers) will even exceed the €800 mark.

The price of this card is the price of my computer...Finally a console is cheaper to play games.

The price of this card is the price of my computer...Finally a console is cheaper to play games.

You have to compare apples to apples. A 1080Ti is not a requirement to play PC games at equivalent performance to a console. Once you put together a parts list to play at 30fps @ 1080i (most, if not all consoles current gen limits) the cost comes way down.

Should come in handy for future Feral ports! ;D

I really just want to enjoy playing some or the latest games on Linux above 60fps for once. I'm half tempted to go the nvidia route as it still has the performance lead. But I'm enthusiastic about the open source drivers for AMD, they make huge gains every year it seems. And there is no waiting for compatibility with the latest updates to xorg. It just works.

I think I need to look to the future though. Vulkan is almost mainstream and AMD hardware works really well on Vulkan. Also I can't afford £500+ just for a good GPU. I'm hoping Vega will be much more affordable.

I snagged a GTX 1080 FTW edition. Always want what we don't have haha. I knew going into it I wasn't going to splurge for the To.

Well, something to think on, is that if Vulkan does bring the performance improvements we all hope (and it looks like it will in most cases), upgrading might not be needed for some of us for even longer.

Like my 980ti right now, it can play any game I throw at it. When Vulkan becomes more common, it will probably allow me to continue using it for an additional year I reckon. So I might even be able to wait until Navi (the one after Vega).

I think this monster indeed surpasses the requirements of even demanding games at the moment. Of course with 144 Hz monitors at 4K resolutions and ultra high game settings you can make any card sweat, but for anything realistic, this card is complete overkill for the current generation of games.

NVIDIA releasing this sooner rather then later is likely a tactic to grab up some of that top-tier player money whom might have spent it with AMD and VEGA, but since AMD has decided to not talk about the actual hardware there is a good chance its barely faster then a 1080... I will be surprised if AMD can make VEGA on par with a 1080ti.

Ultimately it comes down to price really, hopefully they don't price the VEGA out of the market because we all know that new memory type is ultra-expensive!

Maybe a crazy idea, but this would IMO feel like throwing hardware at a software problem as others have hinted at.

For example, I'm running Arch on GTX 1070, 1TB of NVMe, 1TB of scratch space Samsung SSD, overclocked i7 rig and it's disappointing to see it thrive at games like Talos (2160p ultra, VULKAN @ 150fps) while others eek out 30fps. The same games may get 33fps under a 1080.

Not to be Eeyore here (and it is 70F, sunny here in TX today :) , but would this bring 35-40fps, all else equal? Maybe it makes more sense on OS where millions are thrown at the proprietary software stack and would benefit from further advances in the graphics hardware.

All that to say that I'm thrilled to see the hard work going into some of these releases - it's not easy work and it's definitely not under appreciated. Also very much appreciated is the hard work NVidia is putting into both their graphics and CUDA technology. As someone who works in data analytics day in and out, I really enjoy, for example, the deep learning advances made possible by holy s* 3k+ CUDA cores on one piece of kit.

To end on a bright note, we are seeing what feels like a huge growth in all areas of the software stack so perhaps this will be a moot point in 12-18 months. : )

Going AMD is the best to support the efforts made towards open source drivers, hopefully Vega will be competitive enough to get a good adoption :)

Exactly. GSOC has replacing DRIconf with a new FOSS AMDGPU control centre as one of it's potencial projects. With AMD Linux there is faster bug squashing, freesync, wayland, better desktop performance. With nvidia, there is only closed source and propriatory hardware .. it works well enough for gaming but it lacks on the desktop imo.

It always feels kind of odd running Binary NV on Linux.

There will be at least some proprietary drivers so long as there is market competition. Everyone (companies) has their piece to play in the game. Wow, sorry, that was super meta lol.

Looking at my system now... WiFi driver (proprietary), Intel (hellllo binary blob), NVidia GTX 1070 driver (Nouveau doesn't support) and the list goes on. And that's just my laptop.

Reach in your pocket and look at your phone. Care to guess what percent of that hardware is FOSS? Hell - Google won't even mention the word Linux (and forget about the F word) even though they've sold well over a billion Android devices. They'll use the term Open Source, but as we all know that's comparing two different things.

TLDR -- it's all well and good to step up and say I vote FOSS, but we really vote with our wallets. Ask rms what phone, TV, car, etc. etc. he's using. Last I checked there wasn't a car in America (sorry I'm not familiar with other supply chains) that is 'FOSS'. On the other hand, maybe we draw the line and say it's 'good enough' to use a personal computer that is 100% FOSS and forget about the dozen other devices. Not trying to be a jerk, just food for thought as I follow the conversations here..

It seems barely any difference in price to the regular GTX 1080.

GTX 1080 in USA ~ $600
GTX 1080 ti in USA ~ $700

I would have expected it to be $900. Just sayin'


Last edited by g000h on 1 Mar 2017 at 6:02 pm UTC

Actually the 1080 will drop in price if the 1080ti succeeds and if Vega is competitive.

It seems barely any difference in price to the regular GTX 1080.

GTX 1080 in USA ~ $600
GTX 1080 ti in USA ~ $700

I would have expected it to be $900. Just sayin'

$100 dollars is a pretty big difference in price, in absolute terms. ;) Even in relative terms it's ~16% more expensive.

I have a PS4 and I can say I am not that happy at all, however I am enjoying the games that are ONLY for PS4 (no regrets)

I had a GTX 980 and I used to play Rocket League at 2560x1440 and now I am playing rocket league at 1920x1080 and is worst than PC especially the PS4 controller has delays and the game is pretty much unplayable.
I think that games that are ported from PC to PS4 are not that good compared to PC.

I totally prefer playing games on my PC with 4k resolution and invest on good hardware than playing on PS4.

For me that GTX 1080Ti is instant buy :)

The usurious VAT we have in my country will make sure that card costs more than $699 :P