A developer of Star Citizen [Official Site] has commented on their forum to state that the game will go with Vulkan and eventually drop DirectX.
Here's what the developer said (source):
This is pretty great for both Vulkan adoption and future Linux support of the MMO. Considering right now it relies heavily on DX11, if they actually do drop that for Vulkan it really does mean they will only be using Vulkan.
Star Citizen itself has been the topic of a lot of controversy, since a great many people think it will never actually end up as a game. I have no real thoughts on that, since big games do take a long time and a lot of money to make, and these guys are doing it in the public eye. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Here's what the developer said (source):
QuoteYears ago we stated our intention to support DX12, but since the introduction of Vulkan which has the same feature set and performance advantages this seemed a much more logical rendering API to use as it doesn't force our users to upgrade to Windows 10 and opens the door for a single graphics API that could be used on all Windows 7, 8, 10 & Linux. As a result our current intention is to only support Vulkan and eventually drop support for DX11 as this shouldn't effect any of our backers. DX12 would only be considered if we found it gave us a specific and substantial advantage over Vulkan. The API's really aren't that different though, 95% of the work for these APIs is to change the paradigm of the rendering pipeline, which is the same for both APIs.
This is pretty great for both Vulkan adoption and future Linux support of the MMO. Considering right now it relies heavily on DX11, if they actually do drop that for Vulkan it really does mean they will only be using Vulkan.
Star Citizen itself has been the topic of a lot of controversy, since a great many people think it will never actually end up as a game. I have no real thoughts on that, since big games do take a long time and a lot of money to make, and these guys are doing it in the public eye. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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I think I bought it for 20€ or something ^^
And about the Duke Nukem comparison, even if it's far from being finished it is already way better than that. You can already spend several hours playing it and having fun with it (yes I know, this is one of the 2 games forcing me to keep my dual boot partition because I bought it before switching to Linux...). Don't forget that for most of MMO and big AAA we don't hear about it until it's almost ready (like one or 2 years before max). They are showing all their progress from the beginning and that's a reason why it seems so long to finish.
But on the topic, Vulkan is awesome and a really good call. I really have a good feeling about the decisions of this development team (even if having Linux ready sooner would be cool...)
And about the Duke Nukem comparison, even if it's far from being finished it is already way better than that. You can already spend several hours playing it and having fun with it (yes I know, this is one of the 2 games forcing me to keep my dual boot partition because I bought it before switching to Linux...). Don't forget that for most of MMO and big AAA we don't hear about it until it's almost ready (like one or 2 years before max). They are showing all their progress from the beginning and that's a reason why it seems so long to finish.
But on the topic, Vulkan is awesome and a really good call. I really have a good feeling about the decisions of this development team (even if having Linux ready sooner would be cool...)
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LinuxGamesTV 19 Mar 2017
Great, the next Studio that's drop DirectX.
Last edited by LinuxGamesTV on 19 Mar 2017 at 8:43 pm UTC
Last edited by LinuxGamesTV on 19 Mar 2017 at 8:43 pm UTC
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Great news, would be really good if the price of StarCitizen is going a litle bit lower...
Lower than $45? Really?
I mean, hell, it used to be just $35, but that was, like, three years ago.
Certainly, 45USD is more than 3/4 of a day of work. It's more than 3 restaurant meal, maybe 4 and if you go cheap, more than 6 meal ! If i eat at home, i could make more than 2 week of foods with this if i wanted...
I would consider a lot more an 20 USD price tag. Specially when we consider i buyed the complete bundle of Civ V on June 2014 for 16.49 USD...
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Great news,thanks to Ms for not supporting Dx12 on Windows 7 and 8
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If also Frontier Developments would switch to Vulkan with Elite: Dangerous... :)
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GustyGhost 19 Mar 2017
MRW
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If also Frontier Developments would switch to Vulkan with Elite: Dangerous... :)
They also support Mac (at list with Elite dangerous), which would be a bit of a problem.
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Considering the main game engines are working on making vulkan available + having a linux port, I expect the vulkan market to grow a lot in the next years. More than DX12 will.
That game developers consider seriously vulkan is an awesome news. Maybe rockstar and blizzard will follow
That game developers consider seriously vulkan is an awesome news. Maybe rockstar and blizzard will follow
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Considering the main game engines are working on making vulkan available + having a linux port, I expect the vulkan market to grow a lot in the next years. More than DX12 will.
That game developers consider seriously vulkan is an awesome news. Maybe rockstar and blizzard will follow
But that movement must be fast because day by day people are migrating to Windows 10 from previous versions.
What do we have now;Windows 7,8,Linux,Android and Nintendo Switch.But assuming that Windows 10 market share will grow because of lacking security,feature updates at 7 and 8;the real game changer will be the next PlayStation if they decide to use Vulkan.
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They also support Mac (at list with Elite dangerous), which would be a bit of a problem.I'm not sure, as on Windows they're not using OpenGL as on macOS, but DX11.
But even though their Cobra engine can render in OpenGL, they're not support Linux.
Probably it's just a matter of time, when Elite: Dangerous will be playable in Linux through wine. Either they switch on Windows to Vulkan, or wine supports DX11 good enough to play. Probably the later will happen ;)
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They also support Mac (at list with Elite dangerous), which would be a bit of a problem.I'm not sure, as on Windows they're not using OpenGL as on macOS, but DX11.
But even though their Cobra engine can render in OpenGL, they're not support Linux.
Probably it's just a matter of time, when Elite: Dangerous will be playable in Linux through wine. Either they switch on Windows to Vulkan, or wine supports DX11 good enough to play. Probably the later will happen ;)
Let's hope it will be native on Linux someday,because at this rate Wine through solutions will hurt.Especially on Vulkan supported games.
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*PARTY-TIME* :)
I backed Star Citizen at my Windows times and thought my investment was already lost when I decided to change to Linux at the beginning of the year.
But if this becomes true, then I have been wrongly mistaken! :)
I backed Star Citizen at my Windows times and thought my investment was already lost when I decided to change to Linux at the beginning of the year.
But if this becomes true, then I have been wrongly mistaken! :)
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I'm not sure, as on Windows they're not using OpenGL as on macOS, but DX11.
But even though their Cobra engine can render in OpenGL, they're not support Linux.
Probably it's just a matter of time, when Elite: Dangerous will be playable in Linux through wine. Either they switch on Windows to Vulkan, or wine supports DX11 good enough to play. Probably the later will happen ;)
Mac uses an older opengl version, this is the reason they dont have the horizon expansion.
They also dont support vulkan like Linux do. And there PC's arent really built for gaming, just hade to add that last thing ;).
If we are going to see a Linux port, it will be the next plattform frontier will aim for.
PS4 port is out very soon, and I dont think Andriod, iOS or Nintendo is something frontier are aiming for.
So hoppfully Linux is something they want to do. Plz!! :'(
My life will be complete then frontier!!!
Im not begging Im demanding a port!!! :D
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But that movement must be fast because day by day people are migrating to Windows 10 from previous versions.
What do we have now;Windows 7,8,Linux,Android and Nintendo Switch.But assuming that Windows 10 market share will grow because of lacking security,feature updates at 7 and 8;the real game changer will be the next PlayStation if they decide to use Vulkan.
Windows 7 is gonna be the next windows xp. A lot of people will stay on it because microsoft is doing shit with their new versions of windows. With the ads poping a little bit everywhere, the privacy issues and the fact people like the windows 7 UI are things that will make people stay on 7.
That we talk about unity, cry engine or unreal, they all support vulkan (or plan too). I think that's a bigger game changer than the state of the market share.
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PublicNuisance 20 Mar 2017
Fantastic news. I had backed Star Citizen when their crowdfunding campaign first started. I am not even a huge flight sim fan but Chris Robert's passion and vision sold me. The more Vulkan games the better.
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Ridiculous shot to the knee by M$ to support DX12 only on Win 10 - but I cannot complain about that :DWell, that's exactly what they did with DX10 and DX11 (available only for Windows Vista and newer). And as most of you probably noticed, they really want everyone to use the latest version of their system ;)
Yes, the shot in the knee part is when they expected Win 10 to be successful, and people didn't even want it for free, making DX12 stuck with a market share that will force developers to offer DX11 legacy support for years to come... Or just use Vulkan and get rid of the problem entirely. :D
i hate to say that, but, steam hardware survey states otherwise:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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We are not talking about a random game getting vulkan support, this is Star citizen, one of the most ambitious games ever
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HollowSoldier 20 Mar 2017
We are not talking about a random game getting vulkan support, this is Star citizen, one of the most ambitious games everThought No Man's Sky was the most ambitious game ever...
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TheRiddick 20 Mar 2017
Windows 10 Malware/Spyware edition, that is what MS wants everyone on, they will likely just keep paying big money into developers to get them to support DX12 because I don't see a SANE developer choose DX12 over Vulkan unless there are considerable money issues in doing so.
Also Star Citizen is doing ok, its almost 5yrs in development now and has had several builds out (v0.262 atm I think) and once V3 is released next month? people will get a chance to test out much more of what it has to offer. So to all those people saying its a complete flop, why not actually TRY the alphas out (inc v3 next month) before forming an opinion?
Also Star Citizen is doing ok, its almost 5yrs in development now and has had several builds out (v0.262 atm I think) and once V3 is released next month? people will get a chance to test out much more of what it has to offer. So to all those people saying its a complete flop, why not actually TRY the alphas out (inc v3 next month) before forming an opinion?
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