According to Feral Interactive on Twitter in reply to my question, it seems Linux gamers will not be getting F1 2016, due to low sales of the previous title.
The just announced a release date for the Mac version of F1 2016, so I had to ask the obvious question:
@gamingonlinux F1 2016 isn't coming to Linux. Sales of F1 2015 weren't strong enough to support a port of 2016. Penguin racers do have DiRT Rally though!
— Feral Interactive (@feralgames) April 3, 2017
It's a shame, but the F1 games on PC don't seem all that popular. Going by Steam, F1 2015 has less than one thousand reviews and F1 2014 has even less again. Even the latest title has less than two thousand reviews. Comparatively, DiRT Rally, which we do have, has thousands more reviews and going by SteamSpy, vastly more sales too.
F1 2016 has so far seen a much nicer reception with users and critics, so it's a real shame we won't see it due to lower sales from a, quite frankly, inferior game. The previous game had bad AI, no proper career mode and other issues.
What do you think to this news?
Firstly, F1 2015 had very bad reviews for Windows, it was known as a bad game. Also, just after F1 2015 was ported, the 2016 game was released so the game was dated even before release, it even has the "2015" year in the title, which dates it even more and puts people off. Who would buy FIFA 15 when FIFA 17 is available? Just like FIFA people buy the year version so they get up to date teams and team colours. With F1 2015 you are playing old cars, old drivers, old scenarios that don't relate to the current season.
Even when discounted I found no incentive to buy F1 2015, I just wouldn't play it. To be honest I wouldn't buy 2016 either if it came out, I personally find the whole Formula 1 and F1 games dull as dishwater.
Quoting: MintedGamerI'm not surprised at all F1 2015 didn't sell. I have every single one of Ferals Linux games apart from F1 2015.
Firstly, F1 2015 had very bad reviews for Windows, it was known as a bad game. Also, just after F1 2015 was ported, the 2016 game was released so the game was dated even before release, it even has the "2015" year in the title, which dates it even more and puts people off. Who would buy FIFA 15 when FIFA 17 is available? Just like FIFA people buy the year version so they get up to date teams and team colours. With F1 2015 you are playing old cars, old drivers, old scenarios that don't relate to the current season.
Even when discounted I found no incentive to buy F1 2015, I just wouldn't play it. To be honest I wouldn't buy 2016 either if it came out, I personally find the whole Formula 1 and F1 games dull as dishwater.
You're absolutely right
Quoting: madbadQuoting: BdMdesigNTht's not true... You can see them on youtube whenever you want! :(Quoting: Jahimself...
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Can you play this Games on Linux? No. And you don't get a Port. Never ever. Not from the Nighty Scammer Studio and not from the Assetto Studio. And yes i can watch and see Videos on Youtube with my Linux Box. :D
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Quoting: leillo1975Maybe people had too high expectations.Such thing doesn't exist. Quality = meeting expectations, often exceeding them in certain ways.
Imagine a washing machine not washing properly, then the company saying "people have too high expectations". They'll just buy the other brand. Just like gamers buy other games.
Quoting: MintedGamerWho would buy FIFA 15 when FIFA 17 is available? Just like FIFA people buy the year version so they get up to date teams and team colours. With F1 2015 you are playing old cars, old drivers, old scenarios that don't relate to the current season.I would. Different Season. Different Players. For F1 it would mean different cars, rules, drivers, ... ;P
Quoting: MintedGamerI personally find the whole Formula 1 and F1 games dull as dishwater.Same could be said about the Shooter-Genre ;P
Quoting: leillo1975Quoting: ageres> Reviews: Mostly negative.
I wonder why sales were poor…
F1 2016 has "very positive" rating though.
I don't understand why the reviews are negative. The game is not excellent, but it is not so bad either. Maybe people had too high expectations.
I've looked at this before with Steam review data and found that Linux reviews were on average about 10-15% higher than Windows and about 5% (not sig.) higher than Macs. Note that was across all games.
Specific to simulation games, around 5% of Windows users rated above 90% while Linux users had over 12% of simulation games rated above 90%.
I have my theories on why this happens, both in general and simulation game specific, but would really like to hear what others think. These are not based on anything than 'gut feeling' and general observations regarding possible causes:
(1) One possibility is that Linux users are more inclined to fix any errors and then perhaps give a good rating later on, without thinking about the initial experience but rather the current experience.
(2) (I may be guilty of this as well) Linux users may have a lower "bar" for what they feel is a good game and are more likely to give a good rating even with the exact same glitches a Windows user might experience (and give it a negative review).
(3) My final theory on this is that we research and read reviews in more detail before purchase, and are more likely to be more selective therefore purchasing games that we would naturally rate higher (e.g. some people said they don't feel like they enjoy the 'F1' genre)
I actually just thought of one more as I was writing these down, but I won't bore you and suspect that someone may point it out what would be my #4 :)
I'm sure Steam has all this info and the answers :) as they can slice the data much more granular that is made in the API.
Quoting: saildataQuoting: leillo1975Quoting: ageres> Reviews: Mostly negative.
I wonder why sales were poor…
F1 2016 has "very positive" rating though.
I don't understand why the reviews are negative. The game is not excellent, but it is not so bad either. Maybe people had too high expectations.
I've looked at this before with Steam review data and found that Linux reviews were on average about 10-15% higher than Windows and about 5% (not sig.) higher than Macs. Note that was across all games.
Specific to simulation games, around 5% of Windows users rated above 90% while Linux users had over 12% of simulation games rated above 90%.
I have my theories on why this happens, both in general and simulation game specific, but would really like to hear what others think. These are not based on anything than 'gut feeling' and general observations regarding possible causes:
(1) One possibility is that Linux users are more inclined to fix any errors and then perhaps give a good rating later on, without thinking about the initial experience but rather the current experience.
(2) (I may be guilty of this as well) Linux users may have a lower "bar" for what they feel is a good game and are more likely to give a good rating even with the exact same glitches a Windows user might experience (and give it a negative review).
(3) My final theory on this is that we research and read reviews in more detail before purchase, and are more likely to be more selective therefore purchasing games that we would naturally rate higher (e.g. some people said they don't feel like they enjoy the 'F1' genre)
I actually just thought of one more as I was writing these down, but I won't bore you and suspect that someone may point it out what would be my #4 :)
I'm sure Steam has all this info and the answers :) as they can slice the data much more granular that is made in the API.
Your first two possible causes are coming from one , simple and hurtful truth.
We need games desperately (especially AAA titles) and when they released it we accept it regardless of bugs and performance. Those reviews are mostly positive (forgive me about that) because they think 'if we lick this developers or companies ass ; we can get sequel or more game from them. '
Just like lying to a woman or a man to get access in their pants. Cave man thoughts and behaves simply continues even if we don't realize.
People can't get it. Companies are like prostitutes ; if you have enough money they don't care about your opinions.
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