Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation [GOG][Steam][Official Site] will come to Linux if Stardock see enough requests for it. The CEO of Stardock has requested to see how much interest there is.
If you don't know what it is, here's a trailer to give you an idea:
From the Steam forum, Stardock's CEO posted:
It already has 10 pages of replies.
So if you're interested and would actually buy a copy if it gets a Linux release, head to the Steam topic to give your support.
As a massive fan of strategy titles like this, it has my full support.
Hopefully Stardock are smart enough to not do it just for the money, the game itself would be more alive with a few thousand+ extra players for the online play. We all know these types of real time strategy games aren't as popular as they once were, if they want the game to stay alive, they need the extra players.
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From the Steam forum, Stardock's CEO posted:
QuoteWith the Vulkan work coming to an end, we are considering the port to Linux.
If you are interested in a Linux version, please sign here.
It already has 10 pages of replies.
So if you're interested and would actually buy a copy if it gets a Linux release, head to the Steam topic to give your support.
As a massive fan of strategy titles like this, it has my full support.
Hopefully Stardock are smart enough to not do it just for the money, the game itself would be more alive with a few thousand+ extra players for the online play. We all know these types of real time strategy games aren't as popular as they once were, if they want the game to stay alive, they need the extra players.
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Quoting: GuestI'm incredibly surprised to see this from someone I know who's as smart as you are.Quoting: BoldosYeah, my apologies for being this expressive, but when I saw the news, I got enraged.
I already supported them by buying the game when it got released on early access (with the hopes that I will get a Linux&Vulkan RTS game some day, as was promised). And of course I'm VERY glad that Stardock is willing to go this way. But they did not keep their promise; they also act as if nothing happened... So it must be stated that their behaviour is not correct and is not clean; this is what developer studios just must not do...
I can understand your point of view. I'm not exactly excited either. It's not actually that it was delayed, or that the devs said after they had a Vulkan port done. It's not even their silence on the matter previously.
What has me apathetic is their request for interest. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but to me it seems like the GNU/Linux crowd has to somehow prove themselves worthy of Stardock when it really should be the other way around: Stardock must prove themselves worthy of the GNU/Linux crowd. I just don't get the impression that they're taking GNU/Linux seriously, at all.
Given some of the discussions, this is all mostly just me explaining why I'm not so enthusiastic about the news. I'm not advocating anything, it's just "meh" to me. The irony though is that I already have the game in my Steam library. It came bundled with my graphics card.
When did more and more people start being of the attitude that developers have to prove themselves to us? Prove what exactly? We are a tiny platform often not worth porting to, I really wish people would stop acting like a developer is a devil for pushing us down on their list.
We are bloody lucky to have the games we do, let's not overestimate our worth. That will harm us, not help us.
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Signed. It looks to be the best RTS since Planetary Annihilation.
Stardock has released some bitchin' games, and I'd love to see some of their titles ported to Linux.
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Stardock has released some bitchin' games, and I'd love to see some of their titles ported to Linux.
Last edited by oldrocker99 on 28 May 2017 at 5:53 pm UTC
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I generally share mirv's opinion on the matter. I don't like these threads, whether they are started by users or developers. I don't think they serve any practical use. Only a small number will users will ever reply to them. So after that, you're still left with the same question: how many people could potentially be interested. Ideally you'd want developers to create a port because it's the right thing to do. It happens (kudos to those that do), but the norm is that the investment must be earner back with profit. So then developers still have to go back to the general statistics, decide if there are reasons why sales may be higher or lower among Linux users, and determine whether this is worth their porting investment. So if the thread is useful at all, it will be to point the finger at how few people responded and that a port is not feasible because of it.
So no, I won't respond to such requests, even if I want the game.
So no, I won't respond to such requests, even if I want the game.
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QuoteIf you are interested in a Linux version, please sign here.Oh give me break. Of course there is interest in a Linux version. Why do developers even bother asking this question?
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Quoting: Mountain ManQuoteIf you are interested in a Linux version, please sign here.Oh give me break. Of course there is interest in a Linux version. Why do developers even bother asking this question?
I just signed. :)
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Please also vote here: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/ashes_of_the_singularity_for_linux
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Quoting: ShmerlPlease also vote here: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/ashes_of_the_singularity_for_linux
I only vote once, since I only will buy it once. It's to give them an idea of the interest, so they need to know how high the interest is on those platforms to get an overall picture.
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Quoting: Mountain ManQuoteIf you are interested in a Linux version, please sign here.Oh give me break. Of course there is interest in a Linux version. Why do developers even bother asking this question?
The question is: How large is the interest? Could a port be worth it? Is it worth the risk?
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Quoting: STiATQuoting: Mountain ManQuoteIf you are interested in a Linux version, please sign here.Oh give me break. Of course there is interest in a Linux version. Why do developers even bother asking this question?
The question is: How large is the interest? Could a port be worth it? Is it worth the risk?
If i understand correctly , what got peoples feathers ruffled is that Linux support was promised and now they are dicking us around asking if we "have interest".
Just my understanding of it thus far. Could be wrong.
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Quoting: liamdaweQuoting: GuestI'm incredibly surprised to see this from someone I know who's as smart as you are.Quoting: BoldosYeah, my apologies for being this expressive, but when I saw the news, I got enraged.
I already supported them by buying the game when it got released on early access (with the hopes that I will get a Linux&Vulkan RTS game some day, as was promised). And of course I'm VERY glad that Stardock is willing to go this way. But they did not keep their promise; they also act as if nothing happened... So it must be stated that their behaviour is not correct and is not clean; this is what developer studios just must not do...
I can understand your point of view. I'm not exactly excited either. It's not actually that it was delayed, or that the devs said after they had a Vulkan port done. It's not even their silence on the matter previously.
What has me apathetic is their request for interest. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but to me it seems like the GNU/Linux crowd has to somehow prove themselves worthy of Stardock when it really should be the other way around: Stardock must prove themselves worthy of the GNU/Linux crowd. I just don't get the impression that they're taking GNU/Linux seriously, at all.
Given some of the discussions, this is all mostly just me explaining why I'm not so enthusiastic about the news. I'm not advocating anything, it's just "meh" to me. The irony though is that I already have the game in my Steam library. It came bundled with my graphics card.
When did more and more people start being of the attitude that developers have to prove themselves to us? Prove what exactly? We are a tiny platform often not worth porting to, I really wish people would stop acting like a developer is a devil for pushing us down on their list.
We are bloody lucky to have the games we do, let's not overestimate our worth. That will harm us, not help us.
Exactly my thoughts, but:
The promising/announcing and revoking later has to stop as well. They can say "we'll look into if it's worth doing a Linux version at a later stage of development..". No harm done, we know we're a tiny platform, and we know it's probably a loss porting a game for us. And we know very well about our platforms shortcomings in the graphics stack (X/OpenGL/drivers - Vulkan still needs work as well).
I get a bit bitter as well thinking on how many games were not released or just "drawn back" after they were announced officially. It's the reason I do own TW3 (and I did install Windows on a drive just to play that one after I had bought it full-price).
That said, I think we should be fair to developers, but I expect this to be in both directions. If no definitive decision is done and/or they're still unsure that a port will release, communicate it that way. There is absolutely no harm for us knowing it's still in doubt if a port will come or not, and there wouldn't be any disappointment - since nothing was promised.
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