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Leaving Lyndow [Steam], the short, but impressive adventure game has officially removed Linux support on Steam due to the amount of bug reports.
The developer explained their reasoning on the Steam forum post:
QuoteAh, yes I only recently decided to pull support less than two days ago. Anyone who has already purchased the game for Linux can still download it (apparently its working for some), but I have been getting so many bugs from so many different distros I decided to take support off the store page. Linux users account for less than 2% of our customers but over 50% of our bug reports, so I've found myself a bit over my head with Linux. I'm afraid I made a terrible error in judgement when attempting to port for linux, and its my bad. I'm sorry for the confusion!
If interested, you can see the post about it here.
It's not the first time I've heard about this, as I often see the developer of Caves of Qud tweeting about how many bug reports they get from Linux gamers. There's a number of others who I hear the same from too, which is quite a shame, but it's going to happen when developers aren't all that familiar with Linux and the game engines often have issues the developers cannot work around too.
I think a fair amount of developers rely too heavily on just pushing out builds and hoping for the best. Researching the platform and testing it each time you do updates is pretty essential. It may sound dumb and quite obvious to do so, but the amount of times I've seen developers say they don't have "a Linux machine for testing", yet they push out a Linux version and sell Linux copies is quite staggering.
It's a shame, but it's not a massive loss as it really is a short game. Perhaps someone good with Unity can help them fix it up.
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Quoting: slaapliedjeI'm not saying you're wrong, but where does it say that Ubuntu is the only supported distro for Steam? SteamOS would be the one, I think the only reason most games show 'minimum requirements for Ubuntu' is due to them not being updated.
I don't think that's due to it not being updated at all. Ubuntu is for all practical purposes the supported distro when it comes to Linux gaming today.
Let's be real: Nobody uses SteamOS, and SteamOS was originally intended to be based on Ubuntu but changed to Debian due to some licensing issues. Steam has always had a focus on Ubuntu and all games for Linux that has a distro restriction in regards to support, restrict that to Ubuntu (and maybe SteamOS but again, nobody uses SteamOS. Most doesn't even bother mentioning that distro).
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Quoting: Doc AngeloQuoting: slaapliedjePretty sure anyone on the planet that uses Ubuntu to game on isn't going to stick with such an old distribution.
Thanks for the info that the extended period is for paying costumers. Ubuntu 12.04 was still supported just a few months ago. And I know people who had 12.04 on their systems just a few months ago. Not everyone wants to upgrade everything all the time. I've running Debian Stable now, and intend to do so as long as it is supported.
Debian stable is only a few weeks old currently. It's way more up to date than even Ubuntu 14.04 and arguably rivals 16.04.2.
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Quoting: slaapliedjeI'm not saying you're wrong, but where does it say that Ubuntu is the only supported distro for Steam?
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1504-QHXN-8366&l=english
Last edited by pb on 27 June 2017 at 8:48 am UTC
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Quoting: BeamboomLet's be real: Nobody uses SteamOS
I'm using SteamOS, Steam Machines use SteamOS many people who built PCs specifically for the living room use SteamOS. Of course ~nobody uses SteamOS on their desktop PC, but just because you don't use it doesn't mean that "nobody" does.
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Quoting: pbQuoting: BeamboomLet's be real: Nobody uses SteamOS
I'm using SteamOS, Steam Machines use SteamOS many people who built PCs specifically for the living room use SteamOS. Of course ~nobody uses SteamOS on their desktop PC, but just because you don't use it doesn't mean that "nobody" does.
And how many do you estimate use SteamOS? Is it even measurable on the Steam user stats?
Nobody has purchased Steam Machines yet. It's not even on the market in any proper way - it's not even out of beta. It's almost to be considered an experiment at this point in time. Heck I don't even know where to buy a Steam Machine should I want one - and I'm above average interested in this!
And when I say "nobody", I mean in a practical sense. The stats on this site says 33 guys are using SteamOS - the same amount who use the distro Solus. It's nobody in this context. It's zero. Nill.
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I use SteamOS on my living room gaming PC because it is by far the most couch-friendly and "plug-and-play" distro out there. I've encountered several game-breaking bugs or couldn't get a game running at all on other distributions such as elementary OS (which I like).
Just an example: Even though the DualShock 4 implementation seems to be broken in the current stable build of Brewmaster -- SteamOS is by far the best Linux distro for gamepad use. I've got all my Bluetooth and other gamepads working on SteamOS without installing any additional stuff. That's awesome and besides macOS (which has built-in DualShock 3 and 4 support) not possible on a plain vanilla Windows installation.
Back on topic: Leaving Lyndow worked flawlessly for me when I played it back in February/March on SteamOS.
Just an example: Even though the DualShock 4 implementation seems to be broken in the current stable build of Brewmaster -- SteamOS is by far the best Linux distro for gamepad use. I've got all my Bluetooth and other gamepads working on SteamOS without installing any additional stuff. That's awesome and besides macOS (which has built-in DualShock 3 and 4 support) not possible on a plain vanilla Windows installation.
Back on topic: Leaving Lyndow worked flawlessly for me when I played it back in February/March on SteamOS.
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Mountain Man Jun 27, 2017
QuoteLinux users account for less than 2% of our customers but over 50% of our bug reports...If they're legitimate bugs then what's the problem? Are they expecting Linux gamers to just suck it up and accept buggy software? I really don't understand the nature of his complaint.
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Doc Angelo Jun 27, 2017
Quoting: Mountain ManQuoteLinux users account for less than 2% of our customers but over 50% of our bug reports...If they're legitimate bugs then what's the problem? Are they expecting Linux gamers to just suck it up and accept buggy software? I really don't understand the nature of his complaint.
They don't complain about that. They don't expect Linux gamers to just suck it up. They do the exact opposite of that.
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Doc Angelo Jun 27, 2017
Quoting: GeopirateQuoting: Doc AngeloThanks for the info that the extended period is for paying costumers. Ubuntu 12.04 was still supported just a few months ago. And I know people who had 12.04 on their systems just a few months ago. Not everyone wants to upgrade everything all the time. I've running Debian Stable now, and intend to do so as long as it is supported.
Debian stable is only a few weeks old currently. It's way more up to date than even Ubuntu 14.04 and arguably rivals 16.04.2.
I know. The point is that I will run Debian 9 until it will not be supported anymore. I look forward to not change everything constantly for the next few years.
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Quoting: BeamboomQuoting: pbQuoting: BeamboomLet's be real: Nobody uses SteamOS
I'm using SteamOS, Steam Machines use SteamOS many people who built PCs specifically for the living room use SteamOS. Of course ~nobody uses SteamOS on their desktop PC, but just because you don't use it doesn't mean that "nobody" does.
And how many do you estimate use SteamOS? Is it even measurable on the Steam user stats?
Nobody has purchased Steam Machines yet. It's not even on the market in any proper way - it's not even out of beta. It's almost to be considered an experiment at this point in time. Heck I don't even know where to buy a Steam Machine should I want one - and I'm above average interested in this!
And when I say "nobody", I mean in a practical sense. The stats on this site says 33 guys are using SteamOS - the same amount who use the distro Solus. It's nobody in this context. It's zero. Nill.
The whole universe would cease to exist if there was no difference between 0 and sufficient small numbers.
Human society could not function if there was no difference between nobody and sufficient small number of people.
0 and nobody are quite important concepts in a practical sense in other words.
On a less serious note:
Steammachines where launched around 1.5 years ago and around the same time SteamOS got out of beta with version2.*
There is a beta branch where updates are tested before they get push to the released branch.
You can see a list of Steammachine makers on the Steam store under hardware http://store.steampowered.com/sale/machines/
Thats fewer than where announced before launch. I know Alienware came out with newer models last year, I bought one of those, Zotac still has the original and I dont know about the others.
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