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Here's the teaser:
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We don't know too much about it, other than it being a card game and given that it's Valve it will likely be free to play to ensure it's success. I'm speculating there, since I haven't heard either way, but I would honestly be surprised if Valve made it pay to play. Valve have a huge user base to tap into, so free to play for them is pretty smart considering even small in-game purchases could end up netting them a lot of money.
There's no details on platforms yet either, so hopefully Valve don't suddenly forget to include a Linux version. I doubt they would, if they do, it really would make me question their plans for SteamOS & Linux.
Brad Muir who worked on titles like Brütal Legend and Massive Chalice announced on Twitter that he's been working on for a while:
I've been working on @PlayArtifact at Valve for a while now! Can't wait for you guys to play it! :D!
— Brad Muir (@MrMooEar) August 9, 2017
There's a new official Twitter account for the game, if you want to keep up with the latest on it. I will be following it closely to get more details when they come for you.
What do you think?
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I love card games, but I'm very skeptical.
Online card games tend to fall into that almost scammy-feel of software just developed to make money.
If anyone has a chance to make an online TCG that doesn't come across as nothing more than a way to capitalize on people's addiction for collecting things just to milk them for everything they're worth without putting financial gain aside and making something that's actually fun, then I guess it's Valve.
But I still have doubts. This could be a big turning point for me in my opinion of Valve since lately they do seem to be heading in the direction of being just another big soulless company that pretends to care about gamers but doesn't really.
Online card games tend to fall into that almost scammy-feel of software just developed to make money.
If anyone has a chance to make an online TCG that doesn't come across as nothing more than a way to capitalize on people's addiction for collecting things just to milk them for everything they're worth without putting financial gain aside and making something that's actually fun, then I guess it's Valve.
But I still have doubts. This could be a big turning point for me in my opinion of Valve since lately they do seem to be heading in the direction of being just another big soulless company that pretends to care about gamers but doesn't really.
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Sir_Diealot 9 Aug 2017
Wow, incedible. Zero information.
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Mountain Man 9 Aug 2017
I hate card games.I like the idea of computer card games in general. What I don't like are the micro-transactions and/or hours of grinding to build a competitive deck so you don't get curb-stomped by an opponent.
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Well, it's nice that the teaser gives such in-depth insight into the gameplay.
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So, kind of like real card games then. Except with the real ones it tends to be macro-transactions.I hate card games.I like the idea of computer card games in general. What I don't like are the micro-transactions and/or hours of grinding to build a competitive deck so you don't get curb-stomped by an opponent.
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disappointed, personally don't like card games, i've played yu-gi-oh for a long time, but i have no patience for card games anymore, when they said they were working on a new game i didn't expect half life 3, but i was hoping for something that i could like.
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Philadelphus 9 Aug 2017
Well, given how popular Dota and CCGs are I'm sure this'll make lots of people very happy.
I'm not one of them as neither interest me, but at least it shows Valve haven't completely forgotten how to make games, right? :(
I'm not one of them as neither interest me, but at least it shows Valve haven't completely forgotten how to make games, right? :(
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... when they said they were working on a new game i didn't expect half life 3, but i was hoping for something that i could like.
This.
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Kimyrielle 10 Aug 2017
I don't mind card games, but their appeal tends to get suddenly squashed for me, if they tell me I have to buy 10,000 booster packs to get on halfway even footing with the average Jane playing it. I would probably like that sort of games if they'd give both side the full selection of cards to build their decks with and then let skill win. Pay2Win sucks, though.
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Jumping on the train of games nobody wants. Actually nobody
wants to play Hearthstone but Blizzard throws money at it to make it look big. Maybe the same will happen here?
I don't know where you're getting that from. HS is definitely genuinely popular as you can see from how much it's watched on twitch, how many people actively participate on it's subreddit etc...
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Well, given how popular Dota and CCGs are I'm sure this'll make lots of people very happy.
Yes and all of them work at Valve, this will be a cash cow. F2P and with micro transactions, that's the only thing you can count on from valve. I highly doubt we will ever see a solid game from Valve ever again, they make way too much money with F2P games.
And I don't get why people still expect Valve to be able to make a uniqe IP again. The only IP Valve ever created was Half-Life, every other IPs Valve brought up where bought in. Even Portal is a bought IP.
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To be honest, I'd rather have a really big sequel to the left4dead series than half-life. Yes I'm serious.
L4d has more potential in it, and is a fantastic coop game. While At this point it's impossible to make a Hl3 that would not disappoint. The myth must remain forever.
L4d has more potential in it, and is a fantastic coop game. While At this point it's impossible to make a Hl3 that would not disappoint. The myth must remain forever.
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I kind of echo the sentiment of other people
Card games are a thing now , Hearthstone , Gwent and now Artifact. Easy to learn ,hard to master, free to play but with incentive to throw all your money at them. Corporations go where profit is after all.
Would be nice if they are accessible to non-big spenders but power creep has a tendency to invalidate that.
Card games are a thing now , Hearthstone , Gwent and now Artifact. Easy to learn ,hard to master, free to play but with incentive to throw all your money at them. Corporations go where profit is after all.
Would be nice if they are accessible to non-big spenders but power creep has a tendency to invalidate that.
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I wanted to make a comment that they'll do a goofy, team-based shooter like everyone else, then again they kinda started the fad with TF2.
Then I wanted to make a comment about making a MOBA like everyone else, then I reminded myself they already made Dota 2.
Then there's also a loot based MP shooter fad, but CS:GO fits into that.
Obviously, there's also a zombie game.
Mark my words, HL3 will be either a theme-park WoW-like MMO or a Battle Royale type survival game, with everything else dead or dying those are the only fads left (that I can think of).
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Then I wanted to make a comment about making a MOBA like everyone else, then I reminded myself they already made Dota 2.
Then there's also a loot based MP shooter fad, but CS:GO fits into that.
Obviously, there's also a zombie game.
Mark my words, HL3 will be either a theme-park WoW-like MMO or a Battle Royale type survival game, with everything else dead or dying those are the only fads left (that I can think of).
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... when they said they were working on a new game i didn't expect half life 3, but i was hoping for something that i could like.
This.
Thirded.
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I was actually half-interested, until I saw it's a computer card game, not a real physical card game. :P
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About <3<3<3<3 time valve!!
But not another card game plz :/.
Edit: Okey, if u add a phone version, maybe I check it out.
Last edited by Zelox on 10 Aug 2017 at 4:33 pm UTC
But not another card game plz :/.
Edit: Okey, if u add a phone version, maybe I check it out.
Last edited by Zelox on 10 Aug 2017 at 4:33 pm UTC
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I admit that if I was a Windows user or used Wine to play most of my games I would most likely have the reaction we saw at the live reveal. However, as I mostly play native or ported games I'm excited assuming it comes to Linux as we don't have a good CCG for Linux that is officially supported and so far I've had an experience with Valve's Linux titles.
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lucifertdark 11 Aug 2017
Lets look at the pros & cons of this game.
Pros
It's by Valve
It's very likely going to have Linux support from day 1
It's probably going to be free
It's a card game
It's based on Dota 2
Cons
It's a card game
It's based on Dota 2
Pros
It's by Valve
It's very likely going to have Linux support from day 1
It's probably going to be free
It's a card game
It's based on Dota 2
Cons
It's a card game
It's based on Dota 2
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