The latest Wine Staging build 2.15 is now available and it brings in some more Direct3D 11 improvements.
Usual reminder: Wine Staging is the testing area for features and patches to eventually make their way into the main Wine development builds and later stable releases.
Here's what they added in:
- Support for dual source blending and arbitrary viewports in d3d11.
- JPEG decoder bug fixes and support for converting CMYK images in windowscodecs.
- Support for 192/256 bit AES encryption and key import/export in bcrypt.
- Various smaller enhancements and bug fixes.
As usual, they also have all the improvements from the main Wine 2.15 development build.
Wine development is rapid, so hopefully it won't be long before more titles keeping people on Windows will work nicely under Wine on Linux.
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QuoteWine development is rapid, so hopefully it won't be long before more titles keeping people on Windows will work nicely under Wine on Linux.
Actually , until they work out of the box people will stay on Windows or will emulate Windows on Linux via vfio at best.
Personally i've tried Wine many (staging , devel and stable ) times but it is not attractive for people who are simply seeking their favorite Windows apps on Linux. There are so many workarounds to apply for app to app , you must create seperate prefixes. That is not attractive actually.
Even PlayOnLinux or Lutris like solutions are not working correctly most of the time.
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Why should you run Windows in VM if Wine can run something? Amount of effort in setting up VMs is way more than setting up Wine, let alone if you need to set up PCI pass through and what not. And it's a major plus - not dealing with Windows at all.
Last edited by Shmerl on 23 August 2017 at 9:26 pm UTC
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Quoting: ShmerlWhy should you run Windows in VM if Wine can run something? Amount of effort in setting up VMs is barely smaller than setting up Wine, let alone if you need to set up PCI pass through and what not. Plus, it's a major plus not to deal with Windows at all.
Because Wine can run something with X version and it can be broken on with upcoming Y version.
Various hacks used successfully on X version might not work on Y version.
That's why.
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Quoting: LeopardBecause Wine can run something with X version and it can be broken on with upcoming Y version.
Various hacks used successfully on X version might not work on Y version.
That's why.
I wouldn't touch Windows with a ten foot pole. And it's also the reason many use Wine if they can. If anyone can set up VMs, they surely can set up Wine. So out of the box argument is pointless if you compare that.
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Quoting: LeopardActually , until they work out of the box people will stay on Windows or will emulate Windows on Linux via vfio at best.
Implying anyone who can't/won't configure Wine would setup passthroughs for Windows?
Perhaps people who got bored of Wine or the ones that really wish to play the latest and greatest d3dX titles on release, but I highly doubt this is average Joe's main choice and only alternative when it comes to transitioning to a linux desktop.
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Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: LeopardBecause Wine can run something with X version and it can be broken on with upcoming Y version.
Various hacks used successfully on X version might not work on Y version.
That's why.
I wouldn't touch Windows with a ten foot pole. And it's also the reason many use Wine if they can. If anyone can set up VMs, they surely can set up Wine. So out of the box argument is pointless if you compare that.
When you set up VM succesfully one time , no further fixes needed. It is basically Windows , much more effective than dual booting or using Wine.
I understand your Windows hate but sometimes Windows is a must.
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Quoting: kon14Quoting: LeopardActually , until they work out of the box people will stay on Windows or will emulate Windows on Linux via vfio at best.
Implying anyone who can't/won't configure Wine would setup passthroughs for Windows?
Perhaps people who got bored of Wine or the ones that really wish to play the latest and greatest d3dX titles on release, but I highly doubt this is average Joe's main choice and only alternative when it comes to transitioning to a linux desktop.
Both Wine and VM are beyond the level of average Joe. Average Joe should stick with dual booting.
But for a person capable of setting up Wine through different hacks in order to run something , setting up a VM shouldn't be that hard.
Also it is a one time pain , once you set it correctly you are ready to go.
Wine is pain every time.
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Quoting: LeopardWhen you set up VM succesfully one time , no further fixes needed. It is basically Windows , much more effective than dual booting or using Wine.
Games configured in Wine for me very rarely need any tweaks with Wine versions bumps. Regressions can happen, but they are uncommon. Plus, I'd rather report bugs to Wine, than pay anything to MS.
Quoting: LeopardI understand your Windows hate but sometimes Windows is a must.
Not for gaming.
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Gave up on wine quite a while ago. I have enough to play in Linux, and last time I tried wine was more of a hassle to get a game working at all than it was worth it. I even had to create several steam-wine-prefixes because games were getting in each others way.
The VM option is feasable - but nah, seriously.
The VM option is feasable - but nah, seriously.
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