Wine Staging 2.15 released with more Direct3D 11 improvements

Wine works great. Some two years ago it was an 80% solution, meaning that 80% of all games compiled for windows would work out of the box.

I have two prefixes, a 64bit and a 32bit windows one, both running steam and usually games work with one or the other; the problems being the same ones as on windows itself.

However, of my 4000 games on Steam, 3000 run on Linux, so I don't really tend to run wine any more. It's slow upon startup, so unless I want to play some very specific game, I just play on native Linux.

I got direct x 11 work on playonlinux :D and 10

Anyone tested GTA V with the new wine version?

I've made a thread for GTA V:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/2902

In this wine staging version just cause 2 works, however vegetation still appears incorrect

View video on youtube.com

In wine vanilla begin works but appears in black when entry in game

In both cases CSMT are required for prevent flickering

Game works stable in test

^_^


Last edited by mrdeathjr on 24 Aug 2017 at 12:17 pm UTC

Since there are several comments about the difficulties in setting up Wine prefixes, I'll just do a quick plug for my own little Wine management tool, Vineyard. With that installed, you can just double click a Windows executable, select which existing prefix to use or select "New prefix" (and if needed, select the Windows version to emulate, the virtual desktop size to use and which Winetricks packages to install) and click run; easy-peasy. It also comes with an indicator showing the running Wine applications (if they're launched through Vineyard) so you can check their output and it'll automatically suggest which Winetricks packages you might need to install based on the error messages.

Seems nice. Can we run programs and games with "primusrun" or "optirun", if so how?

Since there are several comments about the difficulties in setting up Wine prefixes, I'll just do a quick plug for my own little Wine management tool, Vineyard. With that installed, you can just double click a Windows executable, select which existing prefix to use or select "New prefix" (and if needed, select the Windows version to emulate, the virtual desktop size to use and which Winetricks packages to install) and click run; easy-peasy. It also comes with an indicator showing the running Wine applications (if they're launched through Vineyard) so you can check their output and it'll automatically suggest which Winetricks packages you might need to install based on the error messages.

That is super awesome. I was wondering why nobody has made something like that, just a good Wine launcher / prefix management tool. Apparently someone has. And the amount of stuff vineyard-preferences offers is legitimately impressive. Your tool deserves to be plugged everywhere. Thank you!

I personally also really like the wine support in Lutris as well, I think it's very neat. You can really quickly change the wine version and prefix for any game in the client. It could definitely benefit from some of the options and prefix management capabilities of vineyard though, especially in the Wine Steam runner. Maybe it's wishful thinking but it would be really great if you guys shared some code. Especially seeing as both projects use python. But regardless I'm really glad both tools exist.


Last edited by qptain Nemo on 24 Aug 2017 at 12:55 pm UTC

Since there are several comments about the difficulties in setting up Wine prefixes, I'll just do a quick plug for my own little Wine management tool, Vineyard. With that installed, you can just double click a Windows executable, select which existing prefix to use or select "New prefix" (and if needed, select the Windows version to emulate, the virtual desktop size to use and which Winetricks packages to install) and click run; easy-peasy. It also comes with an indicator showing the running Wine applications (if they're launched through Vineyard) so you can check their output and it'll automatically suggest which Winetricks packages you might need to install based on the error messages.

Seems nice. Can we run programs and games with "primusrun" or "optirun", if so how?

Sort-of. If you use the "Programs" page to create a Desktop launcher, you can put a shell one-liner in the "Command" entry, so instead of just the path to the Windows executable, you can use something like "sh -c 'optirun $WINE whatever was originally in the entry field'" and Vineyard will run the command with the proper environment variables set.

Since there are several comments about the difficulties in setting up Wine prefixes, I'll just do a quick plug for my own little Wine management tool, Vineyard. With that installed, you can just double click a Windows executable, select which existing prefix to use or select "New prefix" (and if needed, select the Windows version to emulate, the virtual desktop size to use and which Winetricks packages to install) and click run; easy-peasy. It also comes with an indicator showing the running Wine applications (if they're launched through Vineyard) so you can check their output and it'll automatically suggest which Winetricks packages you might need to install based on the error messages.

Seems nice. Can we run programs and games with "primusrun" or "optirun", if so how?

Sort-of. If you use the "Programs" page to create a Desktop launcher, you can put a shell one-liner in the "Command" entry, so instead of just the path to the Windows executable, you can use something like "sh -c 'optirun $WINE whatever was originally in the entry field'" and Vineyard will run the command with the proper environment variables set.

Thanks. I installed the program from testing repo but unfortunately vineyard settings does not work properly for me. I cannot create a new prefix. Dialog says it is creating the prefix for a while and disappears but there is no prefix but default and drop down for selecting prefix is greyed out. Also most of the settings that I change goes back to default when I restart the app such as windows version. Anyway this app has so much potential, I wish you the best.

GOG version of Metro 2033 Redux works (choppy audio and not at full screen, but it works)


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Seems nice. Can we run programs and games with "primusrun" or "optirun", if so how?

Sort-of. If you use the "Programs" page to create a Desktop launcher, you can put a shell one-liner in the "Command" entry, so instead of just the path to the Windows executable, you can use something like "sh -c 'optirun $WINE whatever was originally in the entry field'" and Vineyard will run the command with the proper environment variables set.

Thanks. I installed the program from testing repo but unfortunately vineyard settings does not work properly for me. I cannot create a new prefix. Dialog says it is creating the prefix for a while and disappears but there is no prefix but default and drop down for selecting prefix is greyed out. Also most of the settings that I change goes back to default when I restart the app such as windows version. Anyway this app has so much potential, I wish you the best.

Oh, yikes. Could I get you to submit a bug report on GitHub for this with the terminal output included?


Last edited by Cybolic on 24 Aug 2017 at 7:38 pm UTC

That is super awesome. I was wondering why nobody has made something like that, just a good Wine launcher / prefix management tool.

PlayOnLinux is pretty good for Wine prefix management tool, except the project is now basically dead upstream.

PlayOnLinux is pretty good for Wine prefix management tool, except the project is now basically dead upstream.

I don't really like the UI of POL, especially compared to Lutris or Vineyard, and its fatal flaw for me is not being able to add already existing prefixes that I made myself (at least as far as I can tell). It tries to be a complete isolated solution a bit too much for my taste, while Lutris and Vineyard give you the flexibility to use their automation or just reuse stuff you already set up yourself.

I appreciate your suggestion nonetheless though.


Last edited by qptain Nemo on 24 Aug 2017 at 8:19 pm UTC

PlayOnLinux is pretty good for Wine prefix management tool, except the project is now basically dead upstream.

I don't really like the UI of POL, especially compared to Lutris or Vineyard, and its fatal flaw for me is not being able to add already existing prefixes that I made myself (at least as far as I can tell). It tries to be a complete isolated solution a bit too much for my taste, while Lutris and Vineyard give you the flexibility to use their automation or just reuse stuff you already set up yourself.

Yeah, UI is clunky and outdated. It's stuck with GTK2 and their switch to Qt never happened. I think developers simply abandoned the whole effort.

[...] PlayOnLinux [...]

I don't really like the UI of POL [...]

Yeah, UI is clunky and outdated. It's stuck with GTK2 and their switch to Qt never happened. I think developers simply abandoned the whole effort.

Well, to be fair, Vineyard is also GTK2. I have a feeling there are a few people running statistical Windows programs on Puppy Linux who'd be rather upset with me if I upgraded to that bloated new GTK version ;P

Well, to be fair, Vineyard is also GTK2. I have a feeling there are a few people running statistical Windows programs on Puppy Linux who'd be rather upset with me if I upgraded to that bloated new GTK version ;P

I don't like GTK in general. GTK2 is simply dead upstream as far as I know, and won't work with Wayland for instance. I expect some distros to start purging it in the future. Debian already plan to purge Qt 4.x for example.


Last edited by Shmerl on 24 Aug 2017 at 8:33 pm UTC

Thanks for plugging vineyard, I'll give it a shot.
PoL has a lot of issues, Lutris some, not easily being able to creat a prefix and install a game is one.
Maybe vineyard is the way to go.

Lately, I wanted to make some tool like that myself, after realizing that POL is basically a dead project. But I'll probably stick to some basic scripts :)

Lately, I wanted to make some tool like that myself, after realizing that POL is basically a dead project. But I'll probably stick to some basic scripts :)

Their Wine builds are still updated though. Which is my main usage of it, the ability to switch out various wine versions.

Lately, I wanted to make some tool like that myself, after realizing that POL is basically a dead project. But I'll probably stick to some basic scripts :)

Their Wine builds are still updated though. Which is my main usage of it, the ability to switch out various wine versions.

Yup, POL's Wine builds are definitely a winning feature! Vineyard supports them, btw. but you still have to install them through POL (I don't want to leach off their bandwidth and hard work). A Wine build repository not linked to any specific tool would be awesome though.

Speaking of regressions, after switching to Ryzen CPU (8 cores), The Saboteur stopped working for me and I assumed first it's some Wine regression. But apparently the game itself is buggy, it's broken on CPUs with more than 4 cores. Luckily, jackfuste from WSGF figured out a way to modify the game binary to work around that.

For GOG version, you can do this:

echo "9f56d0: eb" | xxd -r - Saboteur.exe


Last edited by Shmerl on 25 Aug 2017 at 1:04 am UTC