This is rather fun news, Intel have announced a new CPU that will utilize AMD graphics with HBM2 memory.
This new CPU will be part of the 8th Gen Intel Core family, the Core H-series to be exact. It will be primarily aimed at the mobile sector, so your next laptop could be a very interesting device. Intel say this will be the first "mobile PC to use HBM2" which is a pretty big milestone.
The new product, which will be part of our 8th Gen Intel Core family, brings together our high-performing Intel Core H-series processor, second generation High Bandwidth Memory (HBM2) and a custom-to-Intel third-party discrete graphics chip from AMD’s Radeon Technologies Group* – all in a single processor package.
Here's the video Intel shared:
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A very interesting partnership, which I imagine NVIDIA isn't too pleased about. This could be a huge win for future laptop gaming, if this partnership continues and more mobile chips end up coming out with much better graphics options. Intel's graphics have lagged behind for some time, with them being pretty weak, so a move like this isn't exactly unexpected. It's been rumoured for a while too.
For Linux gamers it's especially interesting, as I would hope Mesa would eventually get good support for it enabling great open-source driver gaming. I've had NVIDIA Optimus in the past and it was pretty messy, so a good Intel chip paired up with AMD graphics sounds rather enticing for a future laptop purchase.
They say to look forward to the first quarter of 2018, as major OEMs seem to have plans to make use of it already. You can find the official post here, which contains more information.
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Now this is wild and crazy. Just when AMD attacked them on the CPU front...
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Now this is wild and crazy. Just when AMD attacked them on the CPU front...
Indeed. I wonder what lead them to this deal.
Ofc, this will get AMD some money but waters out the
significant advance when it comes CPU+GPU package domain.
Doesn't look clever to me but I hope they know what they're doing.
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GustyGhost Nov 6, 2017
Hopefully this doesn't mean that Intel have given up on developing their own IGP.
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A dream comes true. I hate that all laptops with decent graphics capabilities came with nvidia. I was looking for a model with intel + amd or amd + amd for quite some time, but nothing suited me.
If they make this true, I'll have to get myself a new laptop. Finally.
If they make this true, I'll have to get myself a new laptop. Finally.
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This is no surprise really. It's been rumoured for quite a while.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This is basically AMD and Intel taking a stab at Nvidia. I don't think this will compete with traditional APU's. This is more targeted towards competing with mid-range discreet graphics like GTX 1060 and providing that in a much more neat package.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This is basically AMD and Intel taking a stab at Nvidia. I don't think this will compete with traditional APU's. This is more targeted towards competing with mid-range discreet graphics like GTX 1060 and providing that in a much more neat package.
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Arehandoro Nov 6, 2017
Interesting partnership! An linking with my wish in the 5 years of Steam for linux, this could be use for a portable steam machine... xD
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So AMD is going to compete with itself? Or drop APU's? I don't get it. :S:
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So AMD is going to compete with itself? Or drop APU's? I don't get it. :S:
No , it is much more selling extra gpu's for Amd and for Intel not bothering to product Iris Pro like gpu's and still existing at laptops with much more embedded graphics power.
This will only hurt Nvidia. No longer Mx150 , 940MX like gpu sellings. Because basically there won't be a need for them anymore.
Last edited by Leopard on 6 November 2017 at 5:13 pm UTC
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AMD has never really been able to compete in the laptop market, and Intel's integrated graphics can only go so far given the die space and lack of patents. This is the perfect solution for both companies, and it has been rumored for years now.
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Mhm.. Looks like a prescription drug commercial without the side effect warning :P
Maybe we get some nice Kodi boxes out of this :)
Maybe we get some nice Kodi boxes out of this :)
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So AMD is going to compete with itself? Or drop APU's? I don't get it. :S:
Raven Ridge is a low power (cheap?) APU for generic use ultrabooks (15 to 25W) and this a higher end gaming APU with a TDP of probably around 45W. It is unlikely that AMD could come up with something based on current Zen and Global Foundries' process that would directly compete with this in the near future.
Last edited by Nonjuffo on 6 November 2017 at 5:26 pm UTC
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/checks calendar
Not April 1st
//checks calendar again
This is really shocking given how horribly Intel has screwed AMD over in the past (we're talking borderline criminal). AMD are either really desperate or really stupid.
Not April 1st
//checks calendar again
This is really shocking given how horribly Intel has screwed AMD over in the past (we're talking borderline criminal). AMD are either really desperate or really stupid.
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soulsource Nov 6, 2017
A dream comes true. I hate that all laptops with decent graphics capabilities came with nvidia. I was looking for a model with intel + amd or amd + amd for quite some time, but nothing suited me.
If they make this true, I'll have to get myself a new laptop. Finally.
Not that Raven Ridge APUs wouldn't have been a viable alternative as well.
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It became possible because Radeon Technologies Group (the graphics part of AMD) took back its decisional independence not long ago.Now this is wild and crazy. Just when AMD attacked them on the CPU front...
Indeed. I wonder what lead them to this deal.
Ofc, this will get AMD some money but waters out the
significant advance when it comes CPU+GPU package domain.
Doesn't look clever to me but I hope they know what they're doing.
Last edited by omer666 on 6 November 2017 at 6:07 pm UTC
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Some Leaked benchmarks also. Windows though, so no clue how the Linux drivers will behave
https://wccftech.com/intel-kaby-lake-g-series-integrated-radeon-gpus-first-benchmarks-specifications/
https://wccftech.com/intel-kaby-lake-g-series-integrated-radeon-gpus-first-benchmarks-specifications/
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stretch611 Nov 6, 2017
This actually helps Intel 2 ways... The obvious is chipping away at nVidia.
Not so obvious is that helping AMD also helps Intel. AMD has not done that well with CPUs for quite some time. While there new architecture seems interesting they have lost a lot of ground (aka market share) to Intel over the past decade. ( Historical Market Share )
By helping AMD, Intel keeps regulators off its back by avoiding being labeled a monopoly. (While the current US administration is unlikely to care about monopolies, the EU does tend to take a stronger stance against them, and of course there is a lot of CPUs sold in the EU.)
Not so obvious is that helping AMD also helps Intel. AMD has not done that well with CPUs for quite some time. While there new architecture seems interesting they have lost a lot of ground (aka market share) to Intel over the past decade. ( Historical Market Share )
By helping AMD, Intel keeps regulators off its back by avoiding being labeled a monopoly. (While the current US administration is unlikely to care about monopolies, the EU does tend to take a stronger stance against them, and of course there is a lot of CPUs sold in the EU.)
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natewardawg Nov 6, 2017
This is no surprise really. It's been rumoured for quite a while.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This is basically AMD and Intel taking a stab at Nvidia. I don't think this will compete with traditional APU's. This is more targeted towards competing with mid-range discreet graphics like GTX 1060 and providing that in a much more neat package.
This does seem to be a pretty reasonable explanation as to why they partnered up. Intel HD graphics is okay for the lower end, but just doesn't compare to AMD or Nvidia beyond that.
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By helping AMD, Intel keeps regulators off its back by avoiding being labeled a monopoly. (While the current US administration is unlikely to care about monopolies, the EU does tend to take a stronger stance against them, and of course there is a lot of CPUs sold in the EU.)
I don't think so. It's not forbidden not to have competitors - it's forbidden to abuse the powers that come with it.
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Maybe we get some nice Kodi boxes out of this :)
Isn't an Intel IGP good enough for Kodi? I feel this would be overpowered.
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So AMD is going to compete with itself? Or drop APU's? I don't get it. :S:
No , it is much more selling extra gpu's for Amd and for Intel not bothering to product Iris Pro like gpu's and still existing at laptops with much more embedded graphics power.
This will only hurt Nvidia. No longer Mx150 , 940MX like gpu sellings. Because basically there won't be a need for them anymore.
Yeah in teory this product replace iris pro however final price define all
If this product have similar performance than notebook with gtx 1060 but have lower price will be successfull
^_^
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