SteamOS is still alive with a new Beta, although it's a rather uninteresting one

Unfortunately very true. Valve support for Steam is in stagnation for long time...

Steam Linux exists because Valve got scared by Metro AppStore presented in Windows RT/8.
After "market disaster" of Metro - Microsoft abandoned concept to "kill" win32 environment, so they released Win8.1/10 where win32 apps are again equal to promoted by Microsoft Metro/UWP.

Unfortunately - in my opinion - Valve put Linux "into the refrigerator". Some progress still exists (especially updates to AMD drivers, but also SteamVR alpha), but unfortunately it is very little progress... Surprisingly even Wine has better progress - more, and more DX11 games are playable...

So... Good luck for Windows 10S - Metro only system where Steam cannot be installed. It could be "wake up" signal for Valve...

Valve don't have magical powers to turn gaming industry and it's dynamics such a short time.

And to think that for a short time I was naive enough to believe that Valve would support their "SteamOS & the Steammachines" in a similar way that Microsoft supports their Xboxes or Sony their Playstations with corresponding OS:s.

Not with exclusive titles nor to the same extent in any other way but still...a strong and commited effort by Valve to challenge Windows as "The PC-Gaming OS of Choice". To say that my expectations fell short would be a truly absurd understatement.

Quoting: FeistAnd to think that for a short time I was naive enough to believe that Valve would support their "SteamOS & the Steammachines" in a similar way that Microsoft supports their Xboxes or Sony their Playstations with corresponding OS:s.

Not with exclusive titles nor to the same extent in any other way but still...a strong and commited effort by Valve to challenge Windows as "The PC-Gaming OS of Choice". To say that my expectations fell short would be a truly absurd understatement.

Intention was bringing attention to Linux at first place. At that time devs didn't know anything about it , even game engines didn't support it.

Hell , even i owe my full time Linux usage to Valve. It was impossible for me before , without games.

We need Bethesda like companies and their games to grow.

Valve could enable Wine on SteamOS for many DX9 games and promote Vulkan more.
If they invest in more documents, books and online classes for Vulkan, it would appear more devs having knowledge for port to linux.

Also they could invest in Feral for they being able to make more ports and promote them to more devs

What do we need new feature for? We need more advertising for SteamOS, a Steam Machine relaunch with reference machines from Valve, we need more Publishers publishing Linux Games and finally we need people buying all that stuff.

Features might be nice. But what exactly is SteamOS missing in your opinion?

Mmm I for one have zero interest in VR I hope the people that want it get it, but its just not for me having used gear vr and oculus at tech demos the tech demos almost made me hurl twice so its not for me. As for Steam OS i think they should give it up it would be better if they had just stuck with their opening statement they threw support behind Ubuntu, then started work on Steam OS.

Personally I do not know anyone that runs steams OS as a daily driver nearly all the linux gamers i know stick to ubuntu lts based distros with a smattering of arch here and there. If there is a silent market out there running Steam os i would love to know why they run it.

Guys, to be honest this is it. We already had the best out of the "linux gaming" movement, now it's loosing momentum. There will be some more games but it will not get any better than it is right now. It might get worse though. We will not exit the artificial life support phase unless something happens on the Microsoft - Valve front.

Quoting: killyouGuys, to be honest this is it. We already had the best out of the "linux gaming" movement, now it's loosing momentum. There will be some more games but it will not get any better than it is right now. It might get worse though. We will not exit the artificial life support phase unless something happens on the Microsoft - Valve front.

I think you're being incredibly pessimistic. Nothing about Linux gaming is losing momentum. SteamOS is not the start and end of Linux gaming. I've found the experience of Linux gaming to get better year on year.

Edit: Missed an important word.


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Quoting: killyouGuys, to be honest this is it. We already had the best out of the "linux gaming" movement, now it's loosing momentum. There will be some more games but it will not get any better than it is right now. It might get worse though. We will not exit the artificial life support phase unless something happens on the Microsoft - Valve front.

I think you're being incredibly pessimistic. Nothing about Linux gaming is losing momentum. SteamOS is not the start and end of Linux gaming. I've found the experience of Linux gaming to get better year on year.

Do you find that there is more to report on year over year? If it is increasing or decreasing are we looking at a linear change or a curve? I suspect many of us are caught up counting volume of big name releases without paying much attention to the growth of development framework or even attention returning to old projects.